Game 15: Bulls at Bucks - 11/20/24 - 6:30 - ESPN/FDSWI

Post #41 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:54 pm

I just hate the fact that we haven't had a chance to see this big three in action together for any extended period of time. It's so hard to ascertain whether this has any chance of working when Khris won't play.

Ron Swanson · Post #42 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:56 pm

The simplest answer is still the correct one. Khris' body is breaking down and he basically needs to be load-managed very carefully from this point of his career on. It is what it is. You guys can be upset about it, but calling him lazy is stupid. It's in the best interest of the team to have him as healthy as possible for the playoffs, and they're threading a tough needle right now. It's only become a problem because the team has struggled so much out of the gate, and the conversation the front office now needs to have is whether or not it's worth it to trade him for 1-2 lesser but more durable guys as soon as he can come back and put up his usual 15/5/5 numbers on good efficiency.

Bernman · Post #43 » by **Bernman** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:08 pm

MoreTrife wrote:I thought the report was he underwent ankle surgery "shortly after the season". I feel like it's been 6-7 months.

"Shortly after the playoffs, Middleton underwent surgery on his left ankle to address an issue that plagued him throughout this past season. "

Yea, you're right. So it's been 6 months then. It's all that much crazier.

DanoMac · Post #44 » by **DanoMac** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 8:20 pm

The most frustrating aspect about it is the last time we saw Khris on the floor, he was absolutely cookin. Didn't look washed whatsoever. But then this stuff happens and it makes you wonder what's going on.

We clearly need his playmaking and scoring right now.

jimmybones · Post #45 » by **jimmybones** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:The simplest answer is still the correct one. Khris' body is breaking down and he basically needs to be load-managed very carefully from this point of his career on. It is what it is. You guys can be upset about it, but calling him lazy is stupid. It's in the best interest of the team to have him as healthy as possible for the playoffs, and they're threading a tough needle right now. It's only become a problem because the team has struggled so much out of the gate, and the conversation the front office now needs to have is whether or not it's worth it to trade him for 1-2 lesser but more durable guys as soon as he can come back and put up his usual 15/5/5 numbers on good efficiency.

Yes. I believe he could play today (I'd bet money he'd play tonight if we had a playoff game) and they are all in agreement that a lighter regular season workload is necessary and milking this situation for the first quarter or third of the season is what they think is best in the end.

Those tires have a lot of tread man, and maybe the belief is there's only so many minutes/games in them before they break down and now is the least cost effective time to be using those minutes. Now is actually the perfect time to control his season workload. What's the point in playing now if they need to sit him every third game to load manage.

It also could explain Doc's frustration. If this is a medical risk aversion move, it's easy to agree to that when things are fine but when you look **** and your seat might feel hot then it's understandable to be tempted to say **** this risk, get him out there. Plus, he's more old school so any strategic load management might seem too soft to him. Not even saying he or they are right or wrong.

Not trying to go conspiracy theorist, they think this is the right path and it's not a crazy notion and actually takes balls to watch us struggle at the start of the season in a gamble that we'll be at our best when it matters.

drone3 · Post #46 » by **drone3** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:26 pm

Want to see Dame and Brook build on their chemistry

PG Graveyard · Post #47 » by **PG Graveyard** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:33 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:So it went from "instability" to dislocation. He'll be out awhile

Next update will be amputation

emunney · Post #48 » by **emunney** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:41 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:The simplest answer is still the correct one. Khris' body is breaking down and he basically needs to be load-managed very carefully from this point of his career on. It is what it is. You guys can be upset about it, but calling him lazy is stupid. It's in the best interest of the team to have him as healthy as possible for the playoffs, and they're threading a tough needle right now. It's only become a problem because the team has struggled so much out of the gate, and the conversation the front office now needs to have is whether or not it's worth it to trade him for 1-2 lesser but more durable guys as soon as he can come back and put up his usual 15/5/5 numbers on good efficiency.

I'm not saying it's technically incorrect but it's funny that 'load management' now covers 'missed the first 15 games of the season and counting'.

RogerMurdock · Post #49 » by **RogerMurdock** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:47 pm

Profound23 wrote:
averageposter wrote:I am starting to believe that Khris Middleton is a figment of my imagination.

Who?

Watch on YouTube

Ron Swanson · Post #50 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:59 pm

emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:The simplest answer is still the correct one. Khris' body is breaking down and he basically needs to be load-managed very carefully from this point of his career on. It is what it is. You guys can be upset about it, but calling him lazy is stupid. It's in the best interest of the team to have him as healthy as possible for the playoffs, and they're threading a tough needle right now. It's only become a problem because the team has struggled so much out of the gate, and the conversation the front office now needs to have is whether or not it's worth it to trade him for 1-2 lesser but more durable guys as soon as he can come back and put up his usual 15/5/5 numbers on good efficiency.

I'm not saying it's technically incorrect but it's funny that 'load management' now covers 'missed the first 15 games of the season and counting'.

I do find it funny that Embiid got back on the court before Middleton did, but after watching him play these last couple games......maybe he should've taken another couple weeks.

emunney · Post #51 » by **emunney** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:01 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:The simplest answer is still the correct one. Khris' body is breaking down and he basically needs to be load-managed very carefully from this point of his career on. It is what it is. You guys can be upset about it, but calling him lazy is stupid. It's in the best interest of the team to have him as healthy as possible for the playoffs, and they're threading a tough needle right now. It's only become a problem because the team has struggled so much out of the gate, and the conversation the front office now needs to have is whether or not it's worth it to trade him for 1-2 lesser but more durable guys as soon as he can come back and put up his usual 15/5/5 numbers on good efficiency.

I'm not saying it's technically incorrect but it's funny that 'load management' now covers 'missed the first 15 games of the season and counting'.

I do find it funny that Embiid got back on the court before Middleton did, but after watching him play these last couple games......maybe he should've taken another couple weeks.

I think the Era of Embiid is just over. The process is complete.

It's not super surprising that he hit 30 like a brick wall and one significant injury was enough to permanently derail him as an elite player (he's going to be better than this, but he's never going to get back to that level consistently -- remember the feeling of relief you got whenever AD subbed in for him in Paris). Like, I think a lot of us kind of saw it coming: he doesn't love basketball enough and he definitely doesn't love extra effort. He was never going to get all the way back to his previous level after a long layoff on the sad side of 30. But it's still sobering to see it actually happen.

Post #52 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:02 pm

Read on Twitter

JayMKE · Post #53 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:41 pm

I agree Khris is being load managed and could probably play tonight, its frustrating but they can't come out and say it.

Baddy Chuck · Post #54 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:42 pm

I'll be scoping out PP and his kids somewhere in their clearance rack Giddey OKC jerseys tonight.

Post #55 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:52 pm

Oh good, Doris tonight (along with Mark Jones). Can't wait to hear her Celtics takes.

Matches Malone · Post #56 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:26 am

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JayMKE · Post #57 » by **JayMKE** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:28 am

league pass is dumb af not having these games, its on our **** local channel but they have pump up ESPN? I don't even know wtf ESPN even streams on anymore.

Magic Giannison · Post #58 » by **Magic Giannison** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:29 am

LETS GO BUCKS.

MUST WIN

**** the Bulls yada yada

rilamann · Post #59 » by **rilamann** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:42 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Oh good, Doris tonight (along with Mark Jones). Can't wait to hear her Celtics takes.

It's kind of funny, the game will be broadcast on 3 different channels and each announcing team is worst than the next.

Ours is bad, ESPN is really bad with Jones and Doris bad and the Chicago crew might be the worst in the NBA.

I will forever miss Jim & Jon.

tsamo · Post #60 » by **tsamo** » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:45 am

Ajax can't dunk even alone and Dame can't hit a wide open three...
Great start so far, lol.