PG Memphis - Bucks Fade

[Plossum]

I don’t know anymore. I’ve seen us be really good when we care but we have so many nights where we just don’t care enough.

Good at least to see Dairy back and hitting shots.

Giannis back to being an embarrassment at the stripe.

Hopefully we don’t do anything too stupid in the waning days of the trade market. But these past few games are what leads to dumb decisions being made.

[paulpressey25]

I admit that Bobby doesn't fix all that ails the Bucks, but I hope some posters learn something from BP's absence:

1) Rebounding matters and BP is excellent rebounder. And no, there are no fake rebounds.

2) Defensive rebounding IS part of defense, which was part of Bud's philosophy and which I agree.

3) Brook can't rebound.Yes, some of it has to do with blocking out, but you can block and out and get a rebound. It's not against the rules.

He allows you to limit Brook to 25-30mpg. Brook falls apart when asked to play 35-40mpg.

[BigO]

It’s almost like Bobby Portis is an important member of the rotation.

Don’t tell half the board this. His scoring and rebounding would’ve been a difference maker tonight. We all know he isn’t a good positional defender. That’s not the only aspect of basketball that matters.

You're not making the right argument. We need another rebounding big, but Bobby is not the answer. Turnstile defense won't win us games.

If we had another rebounding big that was good on D it would be a difference tonight. Bobby's points weren't the issue tonight.

But Bobby's absence of rebounding was the issue. Add 8 or 9 more rebounds and you take away a bunch of the Grizzlies shots. Rebounding, specifically defensive rebounding, is part of defense. It's the final step in playing defense, as most coaches will tell you.

[drdrG]

The only guys on the team I enjoy watching are Green and Rollins. Everyone else is not quite focused on winning and playing good basketball or can't anymore

[rilamann]

I have been saying it for a long time and I will continue to stand by it 110%.

Dame is a star but the team would be significantly better if you traded him for 2 solid role players.

When you consider Dame's status (Considered a star, on the 75th team ect) he has to be one of the most overrated players in the history of the league.

[Wonka]

If we keep Brook and need to play him 30 plus minutes post deadline, I’ll have to make steps for my health lol. I’ll watch when the playoffs roll around but I just can’t abide by his buffoonery any more. He’s an embarrassment most nights.

[Prez]

Even beyond the center position, which is a major problem and needs an overhaul, the fact that we're starting Taurean Prince and Dre as our wings is honestly embarrassing.

[MickeyDavis]

Jimmy is not the answer. We won't win a title with him this year and if we don't give him an extension (and we shouldn't) we just inherit Miami's headache. No thanks.

[CJTURT]

I’m so sick and tired of watching Damian Lillard. He’s such a fricking ball hog. All he does is just jack up shots. He never plays with any flow or rhythm with his other teammates. Send his ass and Gary Trent back on a plane to fukixing Portland where they came from.

[ReasonablySober]

Blow it up around Giannis, and don't wait too long.

[bucksfansince88]

Get khris back into starting lineup asap!

[Magic Giannison]

Even beyond the center position, which is a major problem and needs an overhaul, the fact that we're starting Taurean Prince and Dre as our wings is honestly embarrassing.

Yeap and we getting cooked big time by young and athletic teams while its not a coincidence that teams shoot light out against us in the perimeter.

[German Athens]

So many players have been going right at brook this year and finishing. It’s pretty jarring to watch.


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[trublu]

Keep Khris. Get Robert Williams if possible. We need a defensive center bad.

Who else do we get to play the other 45 games a year that he misses?

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[yb90]

Terrible game by everyone. Terrible coaching by Doc to continue to play Lopez. It's funny how the defense in the second half has been trash lately as AJax minutes dwindle. Again Ajax is not some great player but he the role he serves is needed for this team. He is an athletic guy who is versatile enough to defend multiple body types. He can't guard everyone but on some nights he needs to be used down the stretch.

Doc is a clown and Horst constructed a terrible team. Why is Marjon, Livingston, Pat, Umade, and Wright taking up roster spots? How do you not know you need an athletic defensive big that can switch and trap as a change up? How did you not see that in the offseason when everyone knew that was a need?

[paulpressey25]

I have been saying it for a long time and I will continue to stand by it 110%.

Dame is a star but the team would be significantly better if you traded him for 2 solid role players.

When you consider Dame's status (Considered a star, on the 75th team ect) he has to be one of the most overrated players in the history of the league.

We can live with Dame having an occasional off night shooting. But you can’t live with him half-assing it with turnovers and no creative passing ability.

[Baddy Chuck]

One thing I would like to see is Doc trusting Ajax more. Understand he's probably a frustrating as hell player to coach but he's the best at what we have to fill a hole the team needs. This is like the 3rd or 4th game I can remember in the past couple weeks where Ajax provided fine minutes, the team was playing well with him and then Doc just removes him from the game. Subbed out up 10 in the third quarter and didn't play the rest of the game. AJ and Khris played well so understandable but there's got to be minutes you can find for Ajax.

[BigO]

I admit that Bobby doesn't fix all that ails the Bucks, but I hope some posters learn something from BP's absence:

1) Rebounding matters and BP is excellent rebounder. And no, there are no fake rebounds.

2) Defensive rebounding IS part of defense, which was part of Bud's philosophy and which I agree.

3) Brook can't rebound.Yes, some of it has to do with blocking out, but you can block and out and get a rebound. It's not against the rules.

Portis doesnt jump or boxes out for his life he just gets in better position, comparing to brook isnt the goal. Put any defensive Big and see how much they will shine rebounding.

Brook just simply cant.

Portis is averaging almost 8 rebounds a game and in a couple of his seasons with the Bucks he averaged well over 9 rebounds a game. That isn't easy to do and not all bigs can do that.

Brook is just particularly bad.

[BucksFanSD]

For a former DPOY Giannis can be very disinterested in defense.

Id be disinterested as well if im carrying the load offensively by scoring 5 games 30+ while team is clowning around .


Yeah he wasnt good on defense tonight

In recent years I always wanted Giannis to get an additional 3 assist per game, a few less shots, and more effort on defense. I have only have felt this in recent years. He can be a monster on defense if chose to be. He wants the scoring title although he always claims he just wants to win... but I believe the above is a better recipe to win.

[RiotPunch]

Even beyond the center position, which is a major problem and needs an overhaul, the fact that we're starting Taurean Prince and Dre as our wings is honestly embarrassing.

$150M+ to four players, two of which being Khris and Brook, while botching every draft selection imaginable will do that to ya.