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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#41 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:09 am

Let's not do the "we would have won with Middleton" thing after each loss. He was in street clothes tonight in Washington. Kuzma was fine.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#42 » by Bernman » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:09 am

MissKhriddleton wrote:A February game without our best player at the end of a long road trip. Some of these reactions are just a little over the top.


There are 3 more months, plus playoffs. What's it going to look like at the end if this is too late in the season? It wasn't a back-to-back. It's a 3-game trip. Players rested games. The Hawks lose against everyone else practically.

These weak excuses have anything to do w/ not being able to scapegoat the guy who had one of our better net ratings anymore?
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#43 » by Profound23 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:09 am

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PG Graveyard wrote:I don’t have any confidence in us beating anyone on the road anymore. We all rip Trae Young but he’s clearly more impactful than Dame. Is what it is



He's more impactful because he is not in Milwaukee. Switch the two and Trae isn't getting any calls and Dame is an MVP caliber player. Thankfully Giannis stuck around with this BS. Dame got almost no calls in the second half and the few times when they actually called a foul it should have been a continuation play.

Trae in Milwaukee would look like Brandon Jennings sophomore year.


Dame MVP caliber? He was like the 6th best player on the floor tonight. LOL



Correct, now give him the calls he gets outside of Milwaukee. Don't think he doesn't see that. All of those continuation calls he gets on 31 other teams.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#44 » by BigO » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:10 am

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BigO wrote:Just turned to realGM just in time after reading the boxscore.

Kyle Kuzma defintiely a difference maker with huge negative plus/minus and his usual inefficient shooting.

I believe anyone who wanted to trade KM should be banned for one year on this board.

And anyone who thought trading KM for Kyle Kuzma was a good idea should be banned for two years.


I never said this before now. Tear it down. That means new GM, new coach and get rid of everyone but Giannis.

I can't stand self immolation, which is what the Bucks did.

If this goes the way it looks, we may now get the Giannis request to be traded.


Kuzma is like 14th on the list of issues tonight. He was fine and he showed up like 5 minutes ago.

How did Mids do tonight?


Kuzma 4-13 and a -15 when he was on the court. Blame it on the fact he's new if you want, but he didn't play any better in Washington.

But hang on to that false hope. He'll have some good games for sure and you can play them up.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#45 » by BroncoBuck » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:11 am

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Prez wrote:I mean the moment the trade deadline passed and Brook/Bobby were still our centers and we had no tertiary playmaker/creator to take pressure off Giannis/Dame (and traded the only other playmaker we had), it should've been obvious we weren't serious about contending this season. I accepted this as a 1st round exit team the moment the deadline passed, so this loss is whatever to me.


Brook played like a man who wanted out. I want to know what happened there. He was beyond useless tonight but he may also be gassed because Doc has ground him into pulp


He was playing this much under Griff too, and that was with Griff having him chase guys on the perimeter.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#46 » by Plossum » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:11 am

I mean at this stage there’s nothing to do but play it out. I never thought I’d be on this boat but if we flame our round 1 or 2 I might be on the boat of tearing it all down (roster, FO) and getting a boat load of picks for Giannis to start again.

We had a good run and won a title but I think we’ve squeezed all the juice we can from this lemon.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#47 » by mediocrityrules » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:11 am

Once again it was turnstile defense in the paint. Down the stretch when we needed stops we couldn't stop a thing from happening on the defensive end. It doesn't matter how many points we're scoring, because we struggle to actually stop anyone scoring more.

Brook is no longer the guy that can clog the paint for 32 mins a night. He was dunked on at least twice tonight with dunks that he would not have let happen in the past. Bobby has no presence on the defensive end inside. Brook also looks worse because there is just zero help defense. Absolutely none. TP, Bobby etc all just look at each other every time Brook gets scored on because they've let someone slip past them.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#48 » by PG Graveyard » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:11 am

Profound23 wrote:
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Profound23 wrote:

He's more impactful because he is not in Milwaukee. Switch the two and Trae isn't getting any calls and Dame is an MVP caliber player. Thankfully Giannis stuck around with this BS. Dame got almost no calls in the second half and the few times when they actually called a foul it should have been a continuation play.

Trae in Milwaukee would look like Brandon Jennings sophomore year.


Dame MVP caliber? He was like the 6th best player on the floor tonight. LOL



Correct, now give him the calls he gets outside of Milwaukee. Don't think he doesn't see that. All of those continuation calls he gets on 31 other teams.


Maybe. Unproveable. He certainly not a MVP of this game tonight much less the league. That’s laughable
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#49 » by Wonka » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:11 am

Brook is playing more than he has in a long time and rebounding worse than he has in a long time. Damian Lillard grabs as many boards a game as Brook does. It’s just asinine that we kept that guy around. 2 blocked shots a game doesn’t make up for the countless easy opportunities given the other team due to his lack of mobility.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#50 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:12 am

Brooks MPG are his highest in 10(!) years. Ridiculous.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#51 » by mediocrityrules » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:12 am

BigO wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:
BigO wrote:Just turned to realGM just in time after reading the boxscore.

Kyle Kuzma defintiely a difference maker with huge negative plus/minus and his usual inefficient shooting.

I believe anyone who wanted to trade KM should be banned for one year on this board.

And anyone who thought trading KM for Kyle Kuzma was a good idea should be banned for two years.


I never said this before now. Tear it down. That means new GM, new coach and get rid of everyone but Giannis.

I can't stand self immolation, which is what the Bucks did.

If this goes the way it looks, we may now get the Giannis request to be traded.


Kuzma is like 14th on the list of issues tonight. He was fine and he showed up like 5 minutes ago.

How did Mids do tonight?


Kuzma 4-13 and a -15 when he was on the court. Blame it on the fact he's new if you want, but he didn't play any better in Washington.

But hang on to that false hope. He'll have some good games for sure and you can play them up.


Sounds just like Middleton this season actually.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#52 » by PG Graveyard » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:12 am

BigO wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:
BigO wrote:Just turned to realGM just in time after reading the boxscore.

Kyle Kuzma defintiely a difference maker with huge negative plus/minus and his usual inefficient shooting.

I believe anyone who wanted to trade KM should be banned for one year on this board.

And anyone who thought trading KM for Kyle Kuzma was a good idea should be banned for two years.


I never said this before now. Tear it down. That means new GM, new coach and get rid of everyone but Giannis.

I can't stand self immolation, which is what the Bucks did.

If this goes the way it looks, we may now get the Giannis request to be traded.


Kuzma is like 14th on the list of issues tonight. He was fine and he showed up like 5 minutes ago.

How did Mids do tonight?


Kuzma 4-13 and a -15 when he was on the court. Blame it on the fact he's new if you want, but he didn't play any better in Washington.

But hang on to that false hope. He'll have some good games for sure and you can play them up.


How did Middleton play tonight? Plus minus is dumb but you do you
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#53 » by PG Graveyard » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:13 am

BroncoBuck wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:
Prez wrote:I mean the moment the trade deadline passed and Brook/Bobby were still our centers and we had no tertiary playmaker/creator to take pressure off Giannis/Dame (and traded the only other playmaker we had), it should've been obvious we weren't serious about contending this season. I accepted this as a 1st round exit team the moment the deadline passed, so this loss is whatever to me.


Brook played like a man who wanted out. I want to know what happened there. He was beyond useless tonight but he may also be gassed because Doc has ground him into pulp


He was playing this much under Griff too, and that was with Griff having him chase guys on the perimeter.


No he wasn’t
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#54 » by Plossum » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:13 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Let's not do the "we would have won with Middleton" thing after each loss. He was in street clothes tonight in Washington. Kuzma was fine.

12 points in 4-13 shots with a -15. He’s exactly what he was on the Wiz. If this is what counts for fine then we’re well and truly screwed.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#55 » by Wonka » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:14 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Brooks MPG are his highest in 10(!) years. Ridiculous.


Not counting the season in which he only played 13 games, his rebounding is the lowest it’s been in 5 years. Equally ridiculous. The issue isn’t his minutes. It’s the fact that he’s genuinely a dinosaur out there against 90 percent of matchups.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#56 » by humanrefutation » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:14 am

Teams tend to go through the motions heading into the All-Star break. But there are some systemic problems with this roster that require significant surgery. We don't have the right surgeon. We need a new GM, and that won't come until the offseason.

So, my hope at this point is that they find a rhythm and we see a playoff run with a healthy Giannis and Dame and let the cards fall where they may.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#57 » by MuckyFingers » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:14 am

I don’t know the last time the Bucks only scored 37 points in a half. Completely unacceptable and an indictment on Doc and whatever the hell he was doing with either his sets, rotations, or likely both.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#58 » by PG Graveyard » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:14 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Brooks MPG are his highest in 10(!) years. Ridiculous.


It’s Adrian Griffins fault
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#59 » by Ron Swanson » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:14 am

Like, where the **** was Kuzma in the 4th quarter? I honestly can't believe we just stuck with the Bobby/Brook front court for that long AND as our closing lineup. Doc's basketball knowledge peaked in the mid-2000's and this is why we desperately needed to do whatever we could to Doc-proof the roster at the deadline.
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Re: PG Hawks: One Good Quarter 

Post#60 » by RW23 » Sat Feb 8, 2025 3:15 am

BigO wrote:Just turned to realGM just in time after reading the boxscore.

Kyle Kuzma defintiely a difference maker with huge negative plus/minus and his usual inefficient shooting.

I believe anyone who wanted to trade KM should be banned for one year on this board.

And anyone who thought trading KM for Kyle Kuzma was a good idea should be banned for two years.

I never said this before now. Tear it down. That means new GM, new coach and get rid of everyone but Giannis.

I can't stand self immolation, which is what the Bucks did.

If this goes the way it looks, we may now get the Giannis request to be traded.

And anyone who wanted to trade BP has no clue. There, I think I've covered everything and everyone.


People who overreact to one game without Giannis and with Kuzma having 0 time to integrate with the team should be banned for 68 years

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