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[German Athens]

Castle is the worst ROY since Brogdon, right?

A package built around 2, 14, and the recent ROY could look a lot like Jabari, Henson, and Brogdon.

[Matches Malone]

Castle is the worst ROY since Brogdon, right?

A package built around 2, 14, and the recent ROY could look a lot like Jabari, Henson, and Brogdon.

Thinking about watching John Henson play for the Bucks again just gave me a panic attack. Please nooooooooo.

[JonHeist]

98% sure he's still a buck on october 21st

[tedbrogen]

I think I'd rather have the Hawks package.
Risacher
Johnson
Daniels
Gueye
#13
2029 1st
2031 1st
Swap rights 2032
2033 1st
Swap rights 2034.

We've got a nice young core to develop until our draft selections come in.

I don’t think you can trade the 2033 or 2034 pick for at least another year.

You could do the above but without 33 and 34 and you’d have to do it after the draft by having the Hawks select for the Bucks to include 32.

But I do like that package of players better because Johnson has shown himself to be an NBA starter as his floor with lots of upside left so he’s probably more valuable than the second pick in this draft. And those guys fit around the pieces you already have nicely (KPJ, Rollins, AJG).

So really make the package those four players plus 13 and 22 this year, 27 Hawks (it’s the less favorable of the Bucks and Pels pick), 29 Hawks, 30 swap, 31 Hawks, 32 Swap, and all five seconds.

6 firsts, 2 swaps, 5 seconds, two recent lotto guys with upside, a big with upside, and a legit role player who is one of the best defenders in the league that becomes an all star if he figures out things on offense.

If Giannis wants out and Flagg isn’t an option, this is lowkey one of the better deals you’ll find.

[tedbrogen]

Ok how about this:

76ers in: Markkanen
Bucks in: Sexton, Kessler
Jazz in: George, Kuzma, Philly 2025 1st (#3 overall), Bucks 2031 1st

Jazz get two good picks plus can maybe move George and/or Kuzma for something over the next few years.

Always good to give away assets to help the other team get the best player in the deal.

[BigO]

I see that SA trade working out if we trade Giannis. Only if we can fleece them.

Bucks: Castle, Vastle, Johnson, #2 pick, #14 pick
SA: Giannis and Conny(ops in for salarly) or other

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This is certainly a fleece job, but not in the way you meant it.

[BigO]

Ok how about this:

76ers in: Markkanen
Bucks in: Sexton, Kessler
Jazz in: George, Kuzma, Philly 2025 1st (#3 overall), Bucks 2031 1st

Jazz get two good picks plus can maybe move George and/or Kuzma for something over the next few years.

Jazz getting way too much here though I’m not a Markannen guy at all

You're giving away that first for Kessler and Sexton?

[tedbrogen]

Ok how about this:

76ers in: Markkanen
Bucks in: Sexton, Kessler
Jazz in: George, Kuzma, Philly 2025 1st (#3 overall), Bucks 2031 1st

Jazz get two good picks plus can maybe move George and/or Kuzma for something over the next few years.

Jazz getting way too much here though I’m not a Markannen guy at all

I’d do Kuzma/‘31 1st for Sexton/#21.

Kuzma can lead the tank for the Jazz and we get off of one year of Kuzma and a stop gap for Dame as Sexton has one year left on his deal.

You can only do this if Giannis is committed to being a Bucks for life no matter what. I.e. - he’ll sign a four year extension that takes him through the 2030-2031 season. Otherwise it’s malpractice to trade 31 unprotected for a non-needle mover like Sexton for one year. You’ve got a probably better version of Sexton in KPJ already. The 21st pick in this draft with Horst isn’t enough to tip those scales.

[German Athens]

Something like this:

Mke: Lauri, Jrue, Joe
Okc: Pat, ‘31st, ‘26 swap
Uta: Lillard, #15, #28
Bos: Kuz

We get the best healthy player in the deal, a GT replacement who’s a better defender, and our old buddy to be a steadying influence and defensive presence on our team.

Sign Khris as a buyout this year.

Roll into the playoffs with

Jrue KPJ
Joe Rollins
Dairy Khris
Markannen
Giannis

Figure out what other stuff you can pull with the MLE.

[BigO]

I see that SA trade working out if we trade Giannis. Only if we can fleece them.

Bucks: Castle, Vastle, Johnson, #2 pick, #14 pick
SA: Giannis and Conny(ops in for salarly) or other

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Not ripping on you BUT those players on their own w/o a world-smasher are documented to get you nowhere near the postseason while the picks are a) a middling selection and b) the one immediately (two different flavors of Rutgers tho!) following what's a one-player draft.

Dire.

Quit ripping on the guy.

[aboveAverage]

Something like this:

Mke: Lauri, Jrue, Joe
Okc: Pat, ‘31st, ‘26 swap
Uta: Lillard, #15, #28
Bos: Kuz

We get the best healthy player in the deal, a GT replacement who’s a better defender, and our old buddy to be a steadying influence and defensive presence on our team.

Sign Khris as a buyout this year.

Roll into the playoffs with

Jrue KPJ
Joe Rollins
Dairy Khris
Markannen
Giannis

Figure out what other stuff you can pull with the MLE.

I love this. Gets the gang back together and brings in some promising young talent to improve upon what we lacked two years ago. Could be something Giannis agrees to.

Only big question is the age of Khris and Jrue and whether they are still useful contributors. I’d argue that they still will be in the playoffs when it matters. Regular season no way.

[tedbrogen]

Something like this:

Mke: Lauri, Jrue, Joe
Okc: Pat, ‘31st, ‘26 swap
Uta: Lillard, #15, #28
Bos: Kuz

We get the best healthy player in the deal, a GT replacement who’s a better defender, and our old buddy to be a steadying influence and defensive presence on our team.

Sign Khris as a buyout this year.

Roll into the playoffs with

Jrue KPJ
Joe Rollins
Dairy Khris
Markannen
Giannis

Figure out what other stuff you can pull with the MLE.

Who swap is involved here and who has 15 this year?

[German Athens]

Something like this:

Mke: Lauri, Jrue, Joe
Okc: Pat, ‘31st, ‘26 swap
Uta: Lillard, #15, #28
Bos: Kuz

We get the best healthy player in the deal, a GT replacement who’s a better defender, and our old buddy to be a steadying influence and defensive presence on our team.

Sign Khris as a buyout this year.

Roll into the playoffs with

Jrue KPJ
Joe Rollins
Dairy Khris
Markannen
Giannis

Figure out what other stuff you can pull with the MLE.

Who swap is involved here and who has 15 this year?

Sorry, I should have put more info in here.

The 26 swap is ours. So, OKC is betting that they’ll have a better record than either us or NOP. If they see us as a play-in team, they’d be able to move up to the mid-first next year.

#15 is OKC’s. So, this is predicated on them not being super interested in taking another 1st, since they have a roster squeeze, so they push those decisions further back by getting the ‘31 1st.

[Ron Swanson]

Even if that should be what Markannen's price tag is, there's no way Ainge moves him for that. I still like the idea of buying low on Jrue whenever Boston realizes they're gonna have to pay assets to get off his deal. Wouldn't feel as imperative to use the MLE to re-sign Trent and you can then spend it on a wing like LeVert? Do that Brook sign and trade for Moody?

KPJ/Rollins
Jrue/Green
LeVert/Moody
Giannis
Bobby/Sims

I could maybe be convinced that's a 2nd round playoff team if things break right. Certainly not if Doc is still coaching, but anything we do this offseason feels pointless so long as he's here anyways. It's not the best plan for cap flexibility in 2026, but outside of Jrue you don't really have any bad contracts. This would bank more on Dame coming back and still giving you something while you reset the draft asset clock, but it might be the best way to convince Giannis to remain committed.

[MickeyDavis]

Something like this:

Mke: Lauri, Jrue, Joe
Okc: Pat, ‘31st, ‘26 swap
Uta: Lillard, #15, #28
Bos: Kuz

We get the best healthy player in the deal, a GT replacement who’s a better defender, and our old buddy to be a steadying influence and defensive presence on our team.

Sign Khris as a buyout this year.

Roll into the playoffs with

Jrue KPJ
Joe Rollins
Dairy Khris
Markannen
Giannis

Figure out what other stuff you can pull with the MLE.

I love this. Gets the gang back together and brings in some promising young talent to improve upon what we lacked two years ago. Could be something Giannis agrees to.

Only big question is the age of Khris and Jrue and whether they are still useful contributors. I’d argue that they still will be in the playoffs when it matters. Regular season no way.

Jrue is a definite no as a playoff contributor. He was not good this year. As for Khris, who knows what condition he'd be in. He'll likely be bought out at some point next season and then see where he's at if he doesn't cost us anything.

[tedbrogen]

Something like this:

Mke: Lauri, Jrue, Joe
Okc: Pat, ‘31st, ‘26 swap
Uta: Lillard, #15, #28
Bos: Kuz

We get the best healthy player in the deal, a GT replacement who’s a better defender, and our old buddy to be a steadying influence and defensive presence on our team.

Sign Khris as a buyout this year.

Roll into the playoffs with

Jrue KPJ
Joe Rollins
Dairy Khris
Markannen
Giannis

Figure out what other stuff you can pull with the MLE.

Who swap is involved here and who has 15 this year?

Sorry, I should have put more info in here.

The 26 swap is ours. So, OKC is betting that they’ll have a better record than either us or NOP. If they see us as a play-in team, they’d be able to move up to the mid-first next year.

#15 is OKC’s. So, this is predicated on them not being super interested in taking another 1st, since they have a roster squeeze, so they push those decisions further back by getting the ‘31 1st.

So Utah trade Lauri and a ton of cap space for two late firsts in a not amazing draft.

Bucks trade $90M in awful salary and 2031 first for three useful players, although one has the longest bad contract in the deal

OKC trades 15 and Joe for the right to pay Pat $9M to sit at the end of the bench, a swap of a swap for a team that still has Giannis and the 31 pick.

Boston gets off Jrue’s contract by giving up a late first this year and taking Kuz but they save like $80M this year alone.

Everyone likely does that except Utah. They’d want more compensation for taking Dame’s salary and trading Lauri. Like two more firsts minimum. Celtics should pitch in one of those based on how much they are saving in tax payments and ducking the second apron. I don’t know who gives up the other one.

[Dick Tate]

Ok how about this:

76ers in: Markkanen
Bucks in: Sexton, Kessler
Jazz in: George, Kuzma, Philly 2025 1st (#3 overall), Bucks 2031 1st

Jazz get two good picks plus can maybe move George and/or Kuzma for something over the next few years.

Jazz getting way too much here though I’m not a Markannen guy at all

You're giving away that first for Kessler and Sexton?

What do you think will be the price to move Kuzma?

[paulpressey25]

Jrue is a definite no as a playoff contributor. He was not good this year. As for Khris, who knows what condition he'd be in. He'll likely be bought out at some point next season and then see where he's at if he doesn't cost us anything.

As people post these trade ideas to help the team keep Giannis, it makes me think more and more now is the time to trade him.

Most stuff available is crap and/or older guys. Just what we've been doing the past three years with no success.

In 2021 we had a legit big three options (Giannis/Midds/Jrue). None of these ideas bring us a true #2 or #3 on a contender for obvious reasons (we don't have the assets for it). So how you advance beyond the first round without acquiring a true #2 is a mystery to me.

[German Athens]

Who swap is involved here and who has 15 this year?

Sorry, I should have put more info in here.

The 26 swap is ours. So, OKC is betting that they’ll have a better record than either us or NOP. If they see us as a play-in team, they’d be able to move up to the mid-first next year.

#15 is OKC’s. So, this is predicated on them not being super interested in taking another 1st, since they have a roster squeeze, so they push those decisions further back by getting the ‘31 1st.

So Utah trade Lauri and a ton of cap space for two late firsts in a not amazing draft.

Bucks trade $90M in awful salary and 2031 first for three useful players, although one has the longest bad contract in the deal

OKC trades 15 and Joe for the right to pay Pat $9M to sit at the end of the bench, a swap of a swap for a team that still has Giannis and the 31 pick.

Boston gets off Jrue’s contract by giving up a late first this year and taking Kuz but they save like $80M this year alone.

Everyone likely does that except Utah. They’d want more compensation for taking Dame’s salary and trading Lauri. Like two more firsts minimum. Celtics should pitch in one of those based on how much they are saving in tax payments and ducking the second apron. I don’t know who gives up the other one.

IMO, i’d call #15 a mid first not a late first.

As for Ainge, I kinda think he’s a media GM. Go ahead and send him more “firsts”. If the value is short for Lauri, we can keep inching it up. ‘28 swap, ‘30 swap. Now we’re at “4 firsts!!!”. If you want to dangle something of more value, you could do the ‘32 swap.

I still absolutely think Lauri is a top 3 caliber talent on a contender, and finding a way to get that over the line would be a big deal.

Then next year at the ‘26 draft, you’d still have 2 firsts to trade, and maybe a ‘32 swap if you hadn’t traded it already.

[German Athens]

Jrue is a definite no as a playoff contributor. He was not good this year. As for Khris, who knows what condition he'd be in. He'll likely be bought out at some point next season and then see where he's at if he doesn't cost us anything.

As people post these trade ideas to help the team keep Giannis, it makes me think more and more now is the time to trade him.

Most stuff available is crap and/or older guys. Just what we've been doing the past three years with no success.

In 2021 we had a legit big three options (Giannis/Midds/Jrue). None of these ideas bring us a true #2 or #3 on a contender for obvious reasons (we don't have the assets for it). So how you advance beyond the first round without acquiring a true #2 is a mystery to me.

Lauri is a top 3 guy on a contender.