'14 Draft Thread pt 2: vote again? VOTE AGAIN.

randy84 · Post #401 » by **randy84** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:05 pm

Nebula1 wrote:Parker has low probability of being a good defender. While he's likely to be a very good player, he's not a #1 pick. I'd rather go with Wiggins at 2, work on his offense and remain an elite defensive unit. That's our best chance at a championship.

Wiggins DRtg is 101.5
Parker DRtg is 96.8 and he is playing out of position.

Nebula1 · Post #402 » by **Nebula1** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:21 pm

randy84 wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:Parker has low probability of being a good defender. While he's likely to be a very good player, he's not a #1 pick. I'd rather go with Wiggins at 2, work on his offense and remain an elite defensive unit. That's our best chance at a championship.

Wiggins DRtg is 101.5
Parker DRtg is 96.8 and he is playing out of position.

At the nba level, it's much more likely Wiggins will be the better defender. Parker will likely be a better scorer but I'm afraid that's all you're getting.

Instead take Wiggins, grind through another season and prepare to take a point guard in 2015 or vice with Exum.

To me, Parker is a fine player but not a guy to lead a franchise to a title.

Bucks board should look like :

Wiggins
Exum
Parker
Embiid

MiltownHawkeye · Post #403 » by **MiltownHawkeye** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:47 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I'd love to see the Bucks use Khris like GS uses Klay. Not this season, but next year when I'm hoping our coach has his head out of his ass.

Drew seems hopeless. If I was the GM during I would ask him straight up who he thinks the best point guard on the roster is. If the word "Knight" comes out of his mouth he is immediately gone.

ChuckBros4Life · Post #404 » by **ChuckBros4Life** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:07 pm

Embiid just non-chalantly swished a 20 foot jumper in... I'm sold

ChuckBros4Life · Post #405 » by **ChuckBros4Life** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:18 pm

Selden could develop into an allstar someday

SupremeHustle · Post #406 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:19 pm

That was an NBA move by Wiggins.

VooDoo7 · Post #407 » by **VooDoo7** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:20 pm

Beautiful move Wiggins.

VooDoo7 · Post #408 » by **VooDoo7** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:20 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:That was an NBA move by Wiggins.

Not sure how that wasn't an and-1.

SupremeHustle · Post #409 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:20 pm

ChuckBros4Life wrote:Selden's could develop into an allstar someday

Like him a lot.

machu46 · Post #410 » by **machu46** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:21 pm

randy84 wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:Parker has low probability of being a good defender. While he's likely to be a very good player, he's not a #1 pick. I'd rather go with Wiggins at 2, work on his offense and remain an elite defensive unit. That's our best chance at a championship.

Wiggins DRtg is 101.5
Parker DRtg is 96.8 and he is playing out of position.

I don't buy into those numbers reflecting real life at all. It's easy to see when Wiggins plays that he's an elite defender, and it's easy to see that Parker is an absolutely horrific defender.

I love what Parker can do offensively, but I'm still nervous about his struggles against athletes and the fact that I think he could end up being a SF version of David Lee (gives you 20+ points per game but allows 25+ per game so it ends up not meaning much). That's why I prefer Wiggins or Embiid if we have our choice. They might have a higher chance of not panning out, but I think their best case scenario is being a great two-way player. I don't think there's a chance that Parker ever becomes more than a below average defender.

ChuckBros4Life · Post #411 » by **ChuckBros4Life** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:21 pm

What a move and finish by Wiggins. wow.

ChuckBros4Life · Post #412 » by **ChuckBros4Life** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:28 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
ChuckBros4Life wrote:Selden's could develop into an allstar someday

Like him a lot.

I would love to pick up a mid to late first and grab him. Might stay another year though

randy84 · Post #413 » by **randy84** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:52 pm

Selden working his way up the draft boards.

Sky High · Post #414 » by **Sky High** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:52 pm

You can just tell that Wiggins will have a Lebron-like body someday. He's going to be a beast. I really like his demeanor. Low-key, doesn't mind playing off the ball, NBA footwork. I know he hasn't been as flashy as everyone thought, but there's no doubt in my mind he'll be an all-star someday.

driese0824 · Post #415 » by **driese0824** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:02 pm

Sky High wrote:You can just tell that Wiggins will have a Lebron-like body someday. He's going to be a beast. I really like his demeanor. Low-key, doesn't mind playing off the ball, NBA footwork. I know he hasn't been as flashy as everyone thought, but there's no doubt in my mind he'll be an all-star someday.

so what do u do do u draft a guy thats NBA ready like randle or parker who will help u game 1 next year or do u take a chance on a potential superstar lke wiggins who might be 2 years away from developing that O game that parker has.
I think wiggins fits a need better as he can play the 2 im not sure parker can do that,but i think parker is way ahead of wiggins on the O side and would make a great 3 in milwaukee next to henson and sanders

breakchains · Post #416 » by **breakchains** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:07 pm

The Wiggins play everyone's talking about was impressive athletically but also showed a big weakness of his that he has to SIGNIFICANTLY improve for him to live up to his draft status: his handle. Probably the only thing that worries me about him. Far more worrisome than "killer instinct" and all that stuff. If he improves his handle, he will be a completely different player.

Still, he isn't in Embiid's class as a prospect IMO. Embiid is the clear #1 to me. Wiggins and Parker fighting for #2. Really want a top 3 pick.

breakchains · Post #417 » by **breakchains** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:09 pm

Embiid for 3. I'm telling you, folks, Embiid is the prize.

Post #418 » by **jr lucosa** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:12 pm

Embiid drilled that three :love:

Sky High · Post #419 » by **Sky High** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:15 pm

driese0824 wrote:
Sky High wrote:You can just tell that Wiggins will have a Lebron-like body someday. He's going to be a beast. I really like his demeanor. Low-key, doesn't mind playing off the ball, NBA footwork. I know he hasn't been as flashy as everyone thought, but there's no doubt in my mind he'll be an all-star someday.

so what do u do do u draft a guy thats NBA ready like randle or parker who will help u game 1 next year or do u take a chance on a potential superstar lke wiggins who might be 2 years away from developing that O game that parker has.
I think wiggins fits a need better as he can play the 2 im not sure parker can do that,but i think parker is way ahead of wiggins on the O side and would make a great 3 in milwaukee next to henson and sanders

Yeah its a tough decision. I like them both. Plus Embiid looks like a star in the making as well. Knowing the Bucks luck, and the joke that is the lottery, we'll end up with the 4th pick and miss out on all three.

Honestly, I'd be happy with any of them.

breakchains · Post #420 » by **breakchains** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:16 pm

The play they just highlighted with Wiggins most have been callling "not being alpha" or whatever, but it's exactly what I like about him. He's an unselfish player. Him and Giannis would be tremendous together.

Who ya got. Vote early, vote often.