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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#4081 » by Frank Nova » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:03 pm

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Chuck Diesel wrote:I wonder what Orlando thinks of Brandon Knight.

I could see that fit for them.


Whats the trade idea? I don't see the fit with Oladipo and Payton there and if your assuming Knight will come off the bench as 6th man then u have basically killed his trade value.. What are we going to pry away from them for someone they view as a bench player? Even if it's a glorified bench player which Knight would be...

If Knights to be traded anywhere it's gotta be to someone that believes he's worth "lead guard" status so we can get good value back for him. Not so sure Orlando is the right tree to go barking up. Unless of course your idea is a trade revolving around bringing Oladipo to Milwaukee. So I guess the real question is do you think Orlando values Knight more than Oladipo? Right?
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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#4082 » by Frank Nova » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:05 pm

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JayMKE wrote:I think it is better to wait until the offseason to go after a big man, this draft is pretty deep with them and there are a ton of guys including Kanter available in FA. Not to mention our situation with Sanders should be a lot clearer by then. Who wouldn't want to throw the max at Marc Gasol?

Now isn't the right time to shell out value in a big trade.


Who do you think will be the best available bigs in the draft when we pick? I'm thinking we pick somewhere between 18-22 at this point...

Id make Marc Gasol the highest paid player in the league if he'd agree to come to Milwaukee. Not only would I max him out but Id even try some shady mad russian stuff and come out of pocket with some ridiculous signing bonus off the books just to make it that much more enticing. Max contract, 30mil signing bonus and Id let him sleep with my wife whenever he wanted. Lol. Well maybe not the last part but definitely the 1st 2...

Giannis/Jabari/Marco is a wet dreams wet dream..


marc gasol would be awesome but hes not coming to milwaukee lol


I know I know. Dreamers can dream tho right?! Lol
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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#4083 » by AussieBuck » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:10 pm

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Chuck Diesel wrote:I wonder what Orlando thinks of Brandon Knight.

I could see that fit for them.


Whats the trade idea? I don't see the fit with Oladipo and Payton there and if your assuming Knight will come off the bench as 6th man then u have basically killed his trade value.. What are we going to pry away from them for someone they view as a bench player? Even if it's a glorified bench player which Knight would be...

If Knights to be traded anywhere it's gotta be to someone that believes he's worth "lead guard" status so we can get good value back for him. Not so sure Orlando is the right tree to go barking up. Unless of course your idea is a trade revolving around bringing Oladipo to Milwaukee. So I guess the real question is do you think Orlando values Knight more than Oladipo? Right?

Olidipo is a SG primarily.
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Post#4084 » by ampd » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:14 pm

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AussieBuck wrote:I could see that fit for them.


Whats the trade idea? I don't see the fit with Oladipo and Payton there and if your assuming Knight will come off the bench as 6th man then u have basically killed his trade value.. What are we going to pry away from them for someone they view as a bench player? Even if it's a glorified bench player which Knight would be...

If Knights to be traded anywhere it's gotta be to someone that believes he's worth "lead guard" status so we can get good value back for him. Not so sure Orlando is the right tree to go barking up. Unless of course your idea is a trade revolving around bringing Oladipo to Milwaukee. So I guess the real question is do you think Orlando values Knight more than Oladipo? Right?

Olidipo is a SG primarily.


I guess it would have to be something like Knight for O'Quinn and Payton (with whatever else on both sides)?
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Post#4085 » by AussieBuck » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:17 pm

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weezybaby856 wrote:
Whats the trade idea? I don't see the fit with Oladipo and Payton there and if your assuming Knight will come off the bench as 6th man then u have basically killed his trade value.. What are we going to pry away from them for someone they view as a bench player? Even if it's a glorified bench player which Knight would be...

If Knights to be traded anywhere it's gotta be to someone that believes he's worth "lead guard" status so we can get good value back for him. Not so sure Orlando is the right tree to go barking up. Unless of course your idea is a trade revolving around bringing Oladipo to Milwaukee. So I guess the real question is do you think Orlando values Knight more than Oladipo? Right?

Olidipo is a SG primarily.


I guess it would have to be something like Knight for O'Quinn and Payton (with whatever else on both sides)?

Knight for pick swap works for me.
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Re: Trade Targets 

Post#4086 » by ampd » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:25 pm

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AussieBuck wrote:Olidipo is a SG primarily.


I guess it would have to be something like Knight for O'Quinn and Payton (with whatever else on both sides)?

Knight for pick swap works for me.


I'd need the pick straight up to consider something like that.
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Post#4087 » by AussieBuck » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:28 pm

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I guess it would have to be something like Knight for O'Quinn and Payton (with whatever else on both sides)?

Knight for pick swap works for me.


I'd need the pick straight up to consider something like that.

That also works for me.
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Post#4088 » by M-C-G » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:39 pm

re: Kanter, if there weren't elements of his game that needed significant work and focus, he'd be a max type player...Because he has those flaws, is the only reason he is remotely available.

When I think about how bad our team was last year in all facets but especially defensively, and what they are accomplishing this year, it makes me think that Kanter might be a guy that adds new pieces (aka defense, passing) to his game under some good coaching.

Like I said, I am open to other ideas, but if Kidd thinks that Kanter could be a fit, and that is something he could work with, I don't blink at giving up Ersan and the Clipper 1st. I'm not really sure I do the deal for Henson with that being said.
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Post#4089 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:42 pm

M-C-G wrote:re: Kanter, if there weren't elements of his game that needed significant work and focus, he'd be a max type player...Because he has those flaws, is the only reason he is remotely available.

I mean couldn't this exact same thing be said for any player? Like most players that this could be said about I think there are aspects of his game that are beyond repair. His defense and passing would need the best help in the world to even not be detrimental let alone an asset.
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Post#4090 » by trwi7 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:47 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Knight for pick swap works for me.


I would do that.
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Post#4091 » by Matches Malone » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:05 am

Anybody wanna make a trade deadline thread and get the rumor mill flowing?
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Post#4092 » by Frank Nova » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:09 am

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ampd wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Olidipo is a SG primarily.


I guess it would have to be something like Knight for O'Quinn and Payton (with whatever else on both sides)?

Knight for pick swap works for me.


I love Payton. Id make that trade.

Payton/Middleton/Giannis/Jabari/Henson looks good to me for next year. Would be looking to upgrade Henson. Maybe that could be Sanders if he turns his life around...

Not a lot of shooting going on there tho, Payton would would have to really work on that jumper for that lineup to really click and blossom imo.
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Post#4093 » by Frank Nova » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:10 am

trwi7 wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Knight for pick swap works for me.


I would do that.


Zero chance Orlando is willing to pass up an opportunity to land a PF like Towns in the draft for Knights bird rights and the 20th pick in the draft or wherever we pick in that range.
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Post#4094 » by raferfenix » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:46 am

Is Skiles coach yet or what's going on there with the Magic?

Hard to say what his level of input will be, but however much he has, it assuredly will be of the win now variety.

Of course would love a pick swap but that seems like too much to hope for to me.

What do we think about Elfrid Payton and O'Quinn?
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Post#4095 » by JayMKE » Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:56 am

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JayMKE wrote:I think it is better to wait until the offseason to go after a big man, this draft is pretty deep with them and there are a ton of guys including Kanter available in FA. Not to mention our situation with Sanders should be a lot clearer by then. Who wouldn't want to throw the max at Marc Gasol?

Now isn't the right time to shell out value in a big trade.


Who do you think will be the best available bigs in the draft when we pick? I'm thinking we pick somewhere between 18-22 at this point...

Id make Marc Gasol the highest paid player in the league if he'd agree to come to Milwaukee. Not only would I max him out but Id even try some shady mad russian stuff and come out of pocket with some ridiculous signing bonus off the books just to make it that much more enticing. Max contract, 30mil signing bonus and Id let him sleep with my wife whenever he wanted. Lol. Well maybe not the last part but definitely the 1st 2...

Giannis/Jabari/Marco is a wet dreams wet dream..


Man could there be a more perfect center than Marc Gasol for this team? I give him anything he wanted... *sigh* His brother is in Chicago tho so doesn't hurt trying. :)

At that point of the draft tho, maybe Frank Kaminsky wouldn't be a bad fit for our offense and I doubt he could be worse than Zaza or even Henson defensively to be honest. Not that it matters that much but we'd have one of the more likable teams in NBA history I think with him, would almost need a to have a TV show following the team.
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Post#4096 » by M-C-G » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:14 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
M-C-G wrote:re: Kanter, if there weren't elements of his game that needed significant work and focus, he'd be a max type player...Because he has those flaws, is the only reason he is remotely available.

I mean couldn't this exact same thing be said for any player? Like most players that this could be said about I think there are aspects of his game that are beyond repair. His defense and passing would need the best help in the world to even not be detrimental let alone an asset.


Dude, you go so far over the top some times. But to address the first point, there are tons of players that never had the potential to be a max no matter what.

I guess I am still under the belief players games evolve and grow after what would be there Senior year in college. I also think a good system and good coaching do a lot for player development, as we have seen this year.

I've got no problem if you've got a preference toward another guy, but if Kanter never improves one iota from the player he is today, he brings physicality, rebounding and paint scoring we don't have on this roster today , that in my opinion we need.
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Post#4097 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:23 am

M-C-G wrote:I've got no problem if you've got a preference toward another guy, but if Kanter never improves one iota from the player he is today, he brings physicality, rebounding and paint scoring we don't have on this roster today , that in my opinion we need.

At the expense of literally all ball movement and defense though?
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Post#4098 » by M-C-G » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:31 am

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M-C-G wrote:I've got no problem if you've got a preference toward another guy, but if Kanter never improves one iota from the player he is today, he brings physicality, rebounding and paint scoring we don't have on this roster today , that in my opinion we need.

At the expense of literally all ball movement and defense though?


Your response illustrates the over the top-ness I was referring to. Fair enough if you really think he can't ever pass and can't ever defend but I am watching a coaching staff that is getting blood from turnips.

Who is your guy that is reasonably obtainable (so I can play the baddy role and try to **** all over that player!)
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Post#4099 » by DH34Phan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:36 am

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M-C-G wrote:I've got no problem if you've got a preference toward another guy, but if Kanter never improves one iota from the player he is today, he brings physicality, rebounding and paint scoring we don't have on this roster today , that in my opinion we need.

At the expense of literally all ball movement and defense though?


Your response illustrates the over the top-ness I was referring to. Fair enough if you really think he can't ever pass and can't ever defend but I am watching a coaching staff that is getting blood from turnips.

Who is your guy that is reasonably obtainable (so I can play the baddy role and try to **** all over that player!)

I'd see if we can get Omer Asik. He'd be our version of Mozgov.
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Post#4100 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:38 am

M-C-G wrote:
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M-C-G wrote:I've got no problem if you've got a preference toward another guy, but if Kanter never improves one iota from the player he is today, he brings physicality, rebounding and paint scoring we don't have on this roster today , that in my opinion we need.

At the expense of literally all ball movement and defense though?


Your response illustrates the over the top-ness I was referring to. Fair enough if you really think he can't ever pass and can't ever defend but I am watching a coaching staff that is getting blood from turnips.

Who is your guy that is reasonably obtainable (so I can play the baddy role and try to **** all over that player!)

I mean if we're going for that type of player I'd even prefer a guy like Greg Monroe. I really don't feel I'm going over the top on Kanter at all, his defense and awareness passing the ball is bottom of the barrel bad for an NBA big. Our coaching staff is getting a lot out of players but it isn't pulling stuff out of the woodwork that isn't there.
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