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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#421 » by WRau1 » Wed Dec 4, 2019 4:54 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:The west is still way better than the east as a whole. We all get to play Atlanta, Chicago, New York and all the other bottom feeders four times. The worst teams in the west (excluding GS) would all be in the east playoff hunt.


Lol, no they wouldn't.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#422 » by tydett » Wed Dec 4, 2019 4:58 am

emunney wrote:The Westbrook trade was bad and Morey should feel bad.


You mean the only thing worse than signing an aging player showing signs of decline to an albatross contract is trading said player for another aging player showing more significant signs of decline to an even longer contract and giving up assets to do so?

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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#423 » by H2tObes » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:02 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:The west is still way better than the east as a whole. We all get to play Atlanta, Chicago, New York and all the other bottom feeders four times. The worst teams in the west (excluding GS) would all be in the east playoff hunt.


Lol, no they wouldn't.

Are you sure about that? The Magic are the 8th seed at 8-11 right now
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Post#424 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:05 am

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Chuck Diesel wrote:The west is still way better than the east as a whole. We all get to play Atlanta, Chicago, New York and all the other bottom feeders four times. The worst teams in the west (excluding GS) would all be in the east playoff hunt.


Lol, no they wouldn't.


They would though. Orlando, Detroit and Charlotte are all garbage and in the playoff hunt. They also get to play even worse east garbage four times.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#425 » by soxperry » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:10 am

The raptors lost to another team with a winning record. I'm **** shocked.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#426 » by WRau1 » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:26 am

H2tObes wrote:
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Chuck Diesel wrote:The west is still way better than the east as a whole. We all get to play Atlanta, Chicago, New York and all the other bottom feeders four times. The worst teams in the west (excluding GS) would all be in the east playoff hunt.


Lol, no they wouldn't.

Are you sure about that? The Magic are the 8th seed at 8-11 right now


And the current 8th seed in the West is 9-10.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#427 » by TroyD92 » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:29 am

WRau1 wrote:
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Lol, no they wouldn't.

Are you sure about that? The Magic are the 8th seed at 8-11 right now


And the current 8th seed in the West is 9-10.


The west teams are probably not much better than the East, but they are more talented I think.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portlan 

Post#428 » by WRau1 » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:30 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:The west is still way better than the east as a whole. We all get to play Atlanta, Chicago, New York and all the other bottom feeders four times. The worst teams in the west (excluding GS) would all be in the east playoff hunt.


Lol, no they wouldn't.


They would though. Orlando, Detroit and Charlotte are all garbage and in the playoff hunt. They also get to play even worse east garbage four times.


The bottom of the West is just as bad as the bottom of the East. Even if you throw out the Knicks and GSW, the bottom feeders in both conferences are all a few games within one another as well as the last few playoff spots.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#429 » by IrishRainbow » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:35 am

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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#430 » by LikeABosh » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:38 am

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emunney wrote:Playoffs are going to be unreal this year.


East is strong at the top. Don’t buy all this West domination crap.


The LA teams make the difference. Otherwise, EC vs WC playoff teams are pretty similar I think
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#431 » by H2tObes » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:40 am

WRau1 wrote:
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WRau1 wrote:
Lol, no they wouldn't.

Are you sure about that? The Magic are the 8th seed at 8-11 right now


And the current 8th seed in the West is 9-10.

I think that difference is going to grow as the season goes on, the bottom of the East is still as bad as ever with the West being a fair bit better overall in my opinion.

The Hornets are the 9th seed right now, I think they might be the 14th seed in the West. I think playing the half of the Eastern conference that is pretty bad inflates Eastern Conference records
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#432 » by glenn » Wed Dec 4, 2019 6:45 am

:lol: I’m not saying they don’t have a reason to feel screwed, but this is such a “Rockets” story.

Rockets hopeful NBA acts after James Harden dunk not counted

The Rockets are hopeful the league office will either award the win to Houston due to the Rockets outscoring the Spurs in regulation or order that the final 7 minutes, 50 seconds be replayed at a later date, sources said.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#433 » by emunney » Wed Dec 4, 2019 6:49 am

H2tObes wrote:
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H2tObes wrote:Are you sure about that? The Magic are the 8th seed at 8-11 right now


And the current 8th seed in the West is 9-10.

I think that difference is going to grow as the season goes on, the bottom of the East is still as bad as ever with the West being a fair bit better overall in my opinion.

The Hornets are the 9th seed right now, I think they might be the 14th seed in the West. I think playing the half of the Eastern conference that is pretty bad inflates Eastern Conference records


To be fair, the Hornets should be the 14th seed in the East. They've been very very bad and had some luck in close games against other bad teams. Three of their 8 wins were by 1 point and they have no wins by more than 7. They've got 3 wins against the Pistons by 5 combined points ffs.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#434 » by emunney » Wed Dec 4, 2019 6:50 am

glenn wrote::lol: I’m not saying they don’t have a reason to feel screwed, but this is such a “Rockets” story.

Rockets hopeful NBA acts after James Harden dunk not counted

The Rockets are hopeful the league office will either award the win to Houston due to the Rockets outscoring the Spurs in regulation or order that the final 7 minutes, 50 seconds be replayed at a later date, sources said.


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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#435 » by blazza18 » Wed Dec 4, 2019 7:07 am

Expecting word out from the Rockets sources tomorrow saying the same officials have been against them previously.
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#436 » by DanoMac » Wed Dec 4, 2019 7:32 am

How the Pistons are 8-13 and have a +1.0 differential is nuts
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#437 » by H2tObes » Wed Dec 4, 2019 7:51 am

emunney wrote:
H2tObes wrote:
WRau1 wrote:
And the current 8th seed in the West is 9-10.

I think that difference is going to grow as the season goes on, the bottom of the East is still as bad as ever with the West being a fair bit better overall in my opinion.

The Hornets are the 9th seed right now, I think they might be the 14th seed in the West. I think playing the half of the Eastern conference that is pretty bad inflates Eastern Conference records


To be fair, the Hornets should be the 14th seed in the East. They've been very very bad and had some luck in close games against other bad teams. Three of their 8 wins were by 1 point and they have no wins by more than 7. They've got 3 wins against the Pistons by 5 combined points ffs.

Fair enough, but that also supports my point that facing majority Eastern conference teams inflates records, most of those bad teams that they have faced are EC teams. They don't luck out with 3 wins against the Pistons if they are in the West
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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#438 » by Perseus1966 » Wed Dec 4, 2019 8:16 am

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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#439 » by raferfenix » Wed Dec 4, 2019 5:45 pm

Firing Fizdale won't do jack.

If Mills / Perry hope to keep their jobs the Knicks will be making some kind of mid-season moves to show the "progress" Dolan is demanding.

Either way they all might get fired with the benefit of guaranteed money on their way out.

The lingering question after the Knicks' 44-point loss in Milwaukee is this: how much longer will David Fizdale be on the sidelines?

We don't have a definitive answer, but one member of the organization said late last month that he expected management to fire Fizdale soon, per SNY sources. The person who expressed the thought isn't someone who would make the decision to fire Fizdale. But the idea that a member of the Knicks believes a coaching change is coming says a lot about the level of uncertainty in New York right now.


Mills and Perry said in their press conference last month that they wanted to see the Knicks make progress.

Obviously, it doesn't seem like the group has met that standard. Whether that's Fizdale's fault or management's fault depends on your point of view.

After trading Kristaps Porzingis for Dennis Smith Jr., two first-round picks and cap space, Mills, Perry and the Knicks missed out on their top free agent targets. They spent $70 million on short-term deals for veterans and a three-year, $63 million contract for Julius Randle.

The hope was that the team would be much more competitive than last year's 17-win group and that the veterans would create a winning environment that would benefit the young core.

The Knicks' record indicates that the plan has gone awry.

If Mills fires Fizdale, the next question is if he and Perry will keep their jobs beyond this season. In a conversation with Mills and other front office members after the Mills/Perry press conference, Dolan gave off the impression that Mills and Perry would be safe if the team showed progress, as SNY reported. Just how Dolan defines progress is unclear. But if Fizdale is fired, it seems as if the Knicks would have to play much better under the interim coach for Mills and Perry to keep their jobs and have a chance to hire another coach in the offseason.


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Re: ATL - Melo to Portland 

Post#440 » by DingleJerry » Wed Dec 4, 2019 6:05 pm

I remember a Knicks poster on the main board bashing me in the offseason for saying how dumb it was to make all the moves they made, notably signing 4 PFs to large FA deals in the same offseason combined with them being multi year deals so they don't have FA space going forward. I also mentioned had they not done it they'd been in position to get CP3 (not that I would want him, but knowing the Knicks want their star/name) and would not only get him but likely paid in 1sts to take his contract into their space. Classic Knicks being stupid. I'll take the free money on their Wins Under again this year though.
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