Mayo signs with Bucks - 3 years/$24 million per Woj

[DukeH]

It's possible that decadence from the wealthy lifestyle plays a role in player's decline. The HOFers never had this problem, they were driven and that's why their game didn't decline until biology kicked in and testosterone levels started to drop naturally leading to their strength/vigor/drive denigrating.

There's no reason for someone from ages 27-32 to have a drastic drop-off unless their lifestyle softened them up. A man's strength reaches it's peak at 25 but it plateaus from then until age 35, strength isn't suppose to decline until after 35 unless extenuating factors (ie laziness) kick in beforehand and cause him to weaken.

Giving a contract to say, Ray Allen or Tim Duncan, in their old age isn't a bad move. However paying a decadent player like JR Smith after the age of 28 is a terrible idea. There shouldn't be a magic number to determine who's "too old" to play in the league and should be decided based on the lifestyle they chose to live after making it rich.

[jakecronus8]

It's possible that decadence from the wealthy lifestyle plays a role in player's decline. The HOFers never had this problem, they were driven and that's why their game didn't decline until biology kicked in and testosterone levels started to drop naturally leading to their strength/vigor/drive denigrating.

There's no reason for someone from ages 27-32 to have a drastic drop-off unless their lifestyle softened them up. A man's strength reaches it's peak at 25 but it plateaus from then until age 35, strength isn't suppose to decline until after 35 unless extenuating factors (ie laziness) kick in beforehand and cause him to weaken.

Giving a contract to say, Ray Allen or Tim Duncan, in their old age isn't a bad move. However paying a decadent player like JR Smith after the age of 28 is a terrible idea. There shouldn't be a magic number to determine who's "too old" to play in the league and should be decided based on the lifestyle they chose to live after making it rich.

Valid points.

See Jennings, Brandon.

[Jamaaliver]

By your reasoning, LeBron is already in decline. When 99% of the world would agree he is in his prime.
CP3 is in his prime.

Hell, Mike Jordan didn't win his 1st title until 28. Before that he had athleticism, but not all around game of his thirties.

MJ's Best year: 87-88 Age 24
Lebron's Best year: 08-09 Age 24
Chris Paul's Best year: 08-09 Age 23

You can even verify on basketball-reference.com. Those years were their most efficient

*Now Lebron and Jordan were so amazing that even when they decline, it was slow so they were able to dominate for a long time but it does not change that they never topped their perfromance from when they were 24.

Here is an article about how NBA player's age:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 83372.html

Title: After Age 25, It's All Downhill for NBA Players

I don't buy that for a second.

'96 Bulls were the best team ever with a 33 y/o Jordan.

Efficiency is a made up stat.
Smarts, savvy, athleticism are what makes players great.

That's why young players win squat in this league.
(Unless they have Shaq on their team.)

[ampd]

It's possible that decadence from the wealthy lifestyle plays a role in player's decline. The HOFers never had this problem, they were driven and that's why their game didn't decline until biology kicked in and testosterone levels started to drop naturally leading to their strength/vigor/drive denigrating.

There's no reason for someone from ages 27-32 to have a drastic drop-off unless their lifestyle softened them up. A man's strength reaches it's peak at 25 but it plateaus from then until age 35, strength isn't suppose to decline until after 35 unless extenuating factors (ie laziness) kick in beforehand and cause him to weaken.

Giving a contract to say, Ray Allen or Tim Duncan, in their old age isn't a bad move. However paying a decadent player like JR Smith after the age of 28 is a terrible idea. There shouldn't be a magic number to determine who's "too old" to play in the league and should be decided based on the lifestyle they chose to live after making it rich.

Valid points.

See Jennings, Brandon.

[jtrinaldi]

It's possible that decadence from the wealthy lifestyle plays a role in player's decline. The HOFers never had this problem, they were driven and that's why their game didn't decline until biology kicked in and testosterone levels started to drop naturally leading to their strength/vigor/drive denigrating.

There's no reason for someone from ages 27-32 to have a drastic drop-off unless their lifestyle softened them up. A man's strength reaches it's peak at 25 but it plateaus from then until age 35, strength isn't suppose to decline until after 35 unless extenuating factors (ie laziness) kick in beforehand and cause him to weaken.

Giving a contract to say, Ray Allen or Tim Duncan, in their old age isn't a bad move. However paying a decadent player like JR Smith after the age of 28 is a terrible idea. There shouldn't be a magic number to determine who's "too old" to play in the league and should be decided based on the lifestyle they chose to live after making it rich.

Valid points.

See Jennings, Brandon.

Who the hell tattoos a tongue and lips on themselves? Dude is a nut job

[xTitan]

I believe a players development really depends on what team, system, coach, and leadership that team possess. I think of kawhi Leonard, if he is a Buck, Wizard, Timberwolve or any number of horrific organizations, is he the same player he is today. This is why smart teams have a plan, know the type of player who fits what they want them to do and really bring them along in that role, San Antonio does this in basketball, Green Bay in football, and the St. Louis Cardinals in baseball....all have been very good to great organizations for an extended time, because they know exactly who they are and what they want.

[MrPerfect1]

Efficiency is a made up stat.
Smarts, savvy, athleticism are what makes players great.

That's why young players win squat in this league.
(Unless they have Shaq on their team.)

Just because Jordan had his best teammates at 33 doesn't mean Jordan himself and every player on the team all peaked that same year.

Efficiency is far from made up.

Young players don't win? Young Magic won Titles, Relatively Young Bird won Titles, Young Duncan won a Title, etc

The main reason young superstars rarely win titles isn't because they are not good enough. Rather, usually if you are a young superstar that means the team in position to draft you is a horrible team and it takes that horrible team multiple years to get enough good players around you.

[Baddy Chuck]

Who the hell tattoos a tongue and lips on themselves? Dude is a nut job

Is this a green font post? There are probably millions of people with that tattoo.

[BucksFanSD]

Edit- topic.

[Frank Nova]

Who the hell tattoos a tongue and lips on themselves? Dude is a nut job

Is this a green font post? There are probably millions of people with that tattoo.

It's the Rolling Stones, of course tons of ppl have that tattooed on them.

[Baddy Chuck]

Who the hell tattoos a tongue and lips on themselves? Dude is a nut job

Is this a green font post? There are probably millions of people with that tattoo.

It's the Rolling Stones, of course tons of ppl have that tattooed on them.

I know, that's why I had to point out that ridiculous comment for clarification.

Now for how many early twenty, African Americans have that tattoo, I'd love to see those numbers .

[Frank Nova]

Is this a green font post? There are probably millions of people with that tattoo.

It's the Rolling Stones, of course tons of ppl have that tattooed on them.

I know, that's why I had to point out that ridiculous comment for clarification.

Now for how many early twenty, African Americans have that tattoo, I'd love to see those numbers .

Yeah I mean the only appeal to Jennings is the "rock star" look. I'm sure Jennings isn't listening to satisfaction or wild horses before game time

[Lippo]

So can Mayo play PG, think he did some of that at USC.

[Baddy Chuck]

So can Mayo play PG, think he did some of that at USC.

He did in Dallas, and Carlise couldn't **** wait for the day it ended. Unfortunately, he hated Collison even more then Mayo.

[Lippo]

So can Mayo play PG, think he did some of that at USC.

He did in Dallas, and Carlise couldn't **** wait for the day it ended. Unfortunately, he hated Collison even more then Mayo.

So at least they can run a 3 man rotation at the 1 & 2. Maybe we should just grab brewer to play some 2/3.

[Baddy Chuck]

So can Mayo play PG, think he did some of that at USC.

He did in Dallas, and Carlise couldn't **** wait for the day it ended. Unfortunately, he hated Collison even more then Mayo.

So at least they can run a 3 man rotation at the 1 & 2. Maybe we should just grab brewer to play some 2/3.

Mayo at the point is a stealth tank move. We'd be atrocious.

[Lippo]

And Yanni at the 2..

Mayo
Yanni
Ersan
Henson
Sanders

40 minutes each.
10-72

[lilojmayo]

I think OJ Mayo is going to turn a lot of heads this season. It isn't unheard of for a player to turn the corner in his career this late into while being somewhat young. It took Chauncey Billups 7 years before he took his game to the next level.

OJ has to be more aggressive player. Look for his own shot early, find ways to get to the line. Especially since he maybe the only one on the current roster that can create his own offense.

Juice has so many nights where he plays 35-40 minutes a game, but only attempts 8-12 FGA . that has to change.


We have yet to see the best of Juice Mayo. I'm very optimistic.

[JoeyMorgan619]

lilojmayo changing his avatar to a Bucks logo makes the signing worth it in itself

[Jez2983]

I'm OK with this in terms of the amounts involved.

Agree with all the sentiments that Hammond isn't really constructing a team here though, kinda playing fantasy ball a little IMO.