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Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

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Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?

Yes, I want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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No, I do not want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd as POBO? (with Poll) 

Post#441 » by Zeezprah » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:34 pm

stillgotgame wrote:I don't want this guy near the franchise :nonono:

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there's a lot of guys you wouldn't want near the franchise then. i'm not defending kidd by any means, but there's a lot of womanizers/adulterers in professional sports. some of the biggest names in basketball like magic johnson and michael jordan are on that same level. unfortunately, pro sports breeds a lot of that type of behavior. that's why it's always so refreshing to see the "good guys".

that said, wish we could get someone like desmond mason instead :(
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd as POBO? (with Poll) 

Post#442 » by davids22 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:35 pm

Why does everyone say "Kidd has no experience" but are quick to say "he's a terrible coach"? Wouldn't that imply you haven't seen enough of him to judge whether he's a good coach or not?

He also had one of the best records in the league with the Nets after January 1st. Kidd did a lot with that ancient roster. I commend him wanting to get out of that situation. The Nets have zero future. They sold it away for a one year window at a title. Kidd sees our team, our youth, our new ownership, and sees somewhere he can get his career moving. I'm thrilled a coach wants to come to Milwaukee. I'm not saying we should make a big name move just to make a big name move, but it's the first step of getting free agents to play here down the line when our youthful team takes that next step towards contention and we have a spot that needs filled.

If it's just to coach and we're not giving up any 1st rounders, I'm 100% okay with the move. Hated Larry Drew for a while now. I don't know how I feel about the president role though since he has zero experience and I'd much prefer someone else running that aspect of the show. So I'm not onboard with the POBO title.

Also, real classy of everyone to bring up his DUI and off-the-court issues. What does that have to do with his ability to coach in the NBA?
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Re: Should the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO? (with Poll) 

Post#443 » by Epicurus » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:35 pm

randy84 wrote:Maybe Kidd becomes the Bucks' Larry Bird. Pacers blueprint for the win!

Larry Bird is a bumpkin (no hyperbole here, he is really quite stupid). He was a great, great intuitive player. But as a nonplayer he is but a figurehead who needs talent in the FO or on the bench. KIdd is considerably brighter than Bird, but the nonplayer roles whether coach or POBO, might be NOW beyond his experiential level.
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Post#444 » by wichmae » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:38 pm

davids22 wrote:Why does everyone say "Kidd has no experience" but are quick to say "he's a terrible coach"? Wouldn't that imply you haven't seen enough of him to judge whether he's a good coach or not?

He also had one of the best records in the league with the Nets after January 1st. Kidd did a lot with that ancient roster. I commend him wanting to get out of that situation. The Nets have zero future. They sold it away for a one year window at a title. Kidd sees our team, our youth, our new ownership, and sees somewhere he can get his career moving. I'm thrilled a coach wants to come to Milwaukee. I'm not saying we should make a big name move just to make a big name move, but it's the first step of getting free agents to play here down the line when our youthful team takes that next step towards contention and we have a spot that needs filled.

If it's just to coach and we're not giving up any 1st rounders, I'm 100% okay with the move. Hated Larry Drew for a while now. I don't know how I feel about the president role though since he has zero experience and I'd much prefer someone else running that aspect of the show. So I'm not onboard with the POBO title.

Also, real classy of everyone to bring up his DUI and off-the-court issues. What does that have to do with his ability to coach in the NBA?

Its cherry picking the poor behaviors. People praise the Packers for giving Koren Robinson and Colt Lyerla a second chance but go over the top with a DUI on Kidd. Its all agendas..
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Post#445 » by SkilesTheLimit » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:40 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Even if it was a felony charge, don't care. It doesn't impact his ability to run a team (which I obviously question for other reasons).


Yeah, I agree. If your main reason for not wanting him is because of troubles with the law, it's a weak excuse. We've had a 30 year history of choir boys running this organization and where has it gotten us? I just care about having the best basketball minds in the business at the helm. I'm sure Kidd is not in that group.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd as POBO? (with Poll) 

Post#446 » by Frank Nova » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:41 pm

The Bucks should just hire Jackie Moon to be the HC and starting PF.
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Post#447 » by jokeboy86 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:42 pm

I'm starting to wonder that now that this has gotten out and the fact that this is getting panned universally by people nationally do the owners now pull back and cancel the deal. One thing Kohl never liked was the national media paying attention to the Bucks blunders. He always would prefer they get ignored altogether. As long as Kidd would be here everything the Bucks do would get national attention similar to Jordan in Charlotte. If Jordan were not in Charlotte we would not hear nearly as much about them as we do.
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Post#448 » by jwill535 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:43 pm

Being a scum bag and as a player is one thing. Being a scum bag as a person in a position of power is a totally different thing.
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Post#449 » by cwally10 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:44 pm

wichmae wrote:
davids22 wrote:Why does everyone say "Kidd has no experience" but are quick to say "he's a terrible coach"? Wouldn't that imply you haven't seen enough of him to judge whether he's a good coach or not?

He also had one of the best records in the league with the Nets after January 1st. Kidd did a lot with that ancient roster. I commend him wanting to get out of that situation. The Nets have zero future. They sold it away for a one year window at a title. Kidd sees our team, our youth, our new ownership, and sees somewhere he can get his career moving. I'm thrilled a coach wants to come to Milwaukee. I'm not saying we should make a big name move just to make a big name move, but it's the first step of getting free agents to play here down the line when our youthful team takes that next step towards contention and we have a spot that needs filled.

If it's just to coach and we're not giving up any 1st rounders, I'm 100% okay with the move. Hated Larry Drew for a while now. I don't know how I feel about the president role though since he has zero experience and I'd much prefer someone else running that aspect of the show. So I'm not onboard with the POBO title.

Also, real classy of everyone to bring up his DUI and off-the-court issues. What does that have to do with his ability to coach in the NBA?

Its cherry picking the poor behaviors. People praise the Packers for giving Koren Robinson and Colt Lyerla a second chance but go over the top with a DUI on Kidd. Its all agendas..


Lyerla was an undrafted FA and Koren was signed for peanuts as well. They had clearly hit bottom. Kidd went to the owners for a power play to get more control msecond chances go to those who are remorseful. I don't see any remorse with Kidd.

Regardless, as Luke siad it goes beyond that. Kidd has yet to have a relationship with a team end well, and he has had multiple opportunities. I have no idea how anyone can believe this will be any different.
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Post#450 » by WRau1 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:44 pm

I don't care if they bring him in as a recognizable face/name but I definitely want amazing basketball minds around him. Just like trying to bring Rodgers in as a minority owner, I think having Kidd around can help with the casuals and old fans come back to the Bucks.
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Post#451 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:44 pm

I wouldn't be that worried about Kidd's ability to find a coach if he doesn't do that himself, I think has plenty of relevant experience in playing as long as he did in the league and actually being a coach himself. Lasry and Edens have talked about building thru the draft and developing our young team over the course of a few years, why would that change with Kidd? The only thing I'd be worried about is talent evaluation but if Kidd was behind this proposed Sanders/Ersan deal with Brooks/Teletovic then he's already smarter than Hammond in one regard.
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Post#452 » by JHSFIVE » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:45 pm

After thinking about it.... The biggest appeal L&E have with Kidd is that they probably believe the he could play a major role in recruitment of free agents.... Selling Milwaukee to players to get us out of the sacto, minny, Siberia consideration that we're been under.
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Post#453 » by Matches Malone » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:45 pm

If Jason Kidd had the intellect to try and move Lopez and Teletovic for Sanders and Ilyasova, in my eyes it at least shows he knows something about talent. Clearly that move would have helped the Nets in my opinion. Not saying this means Kidd is the next GM savant, but it's something to look at.
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Post#454 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:46 pm

jwill535 wrote:Being a scum bag and as a player is one thing. Being a scum bag as a person in a position of power is a totally different thing.


Yea, that's who run the world. They get things done, unfortunate but it is what it is. Winning takes balls right?
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Post#455 » by Zeezprah » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:46 pm

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Post#456 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:49 pm

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Also, real classy of everyone to bring up his DUI and off-the-court issues. What does that have to do with his ability to coach in the NBA?

Its cherry picking the poor behaviors. People praise the Packers for giving Koren Robinson and Colt Lyerla a second chance but go over the top with a DUI on Kidd. Its all agendas..


Those Packer players you name aren't being asked to lead the organization in all respects, both on and off the court.

Further the DUI's and wife beating indicate an inability to control his emotional state, predictive or at least congruent with his inability to stay with one franchise at many points the last 20 years. He usually gets angry about something, burns bridges and moves on.

We need stability here and there are many others who could provide that better. No need to reach here on a move that has significant risk on multiple fronts.
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Post#457 » by WiscoKing13 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:50 pm

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davids22 wrote:Why does everyone say "Kidd has no experience" but are quick to say "he's a terrible coach"? Wouldn't that imply you haven't seen enough of him to judge whether he's a good coach or not?

He also had one of the best records in the league with the Nets after January 1st. Kidd did a lot with that ancient roster. I commend him wanting to get out of that situation. The Nets have zero future. They sold it away for a one year window at a title. Kidd sees our team, our youth, our new ownership, and sees somewhere he can get his career moving. I'm thrilled a coach wants to come to Milwaukee. I'm not saying we should make a big name move just to make a big name move, but it's the first step of getting free agents to play here down the line when our youthful team takes that next step towards contention and we have a spot that needs filled.

If it's just to coach and we're not giving up any 1st rounders, I'm 100% okay with the move. Hated Larry Drew for a while now. I don't know how I feel about the president role though since he has zero experience and I'd much prefer someone else running that aspect of the show. So I'm not onboard with the POBO title.

Also, real classy of everyone to bring up his DUI and off-the-court issues. What does that have to do with his ability to coach in the NBA?

Its cherry picking the poor behaviors. People praise the Packers for giving Koren Robinson and Colt Lyerla a second chance but go over the top with a DUI on Kidd. Its all agendas..

WTF?

You're talking about a UDFA who at max was given a 10K signing bonus and can be let go in a blink of an eye. Same goes with Jolly/Robinson low risk and could of been cut at any point. All low risk high reward move.

Kidd will have a much bigger impact on the bucks and should be scrutinized more.
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Post#458 » by nagawicka » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:51 pm

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Funny thing is Nets fans feel the opposite.

Sanders rep around the league has taken a big hit from Woelfel's bogus rehab blurb and other assorted random hit pieces. We know the truth.

Let's get this straight. Sanders rep around the league has taken a big hit because of his own actions. That's the truth. He's viewed as a pretty big time risk. Not because of Woelfel but because of Larry sanders.

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I actually think it could hurt the arena push...maybe not significantly...but the Midwest and WI is different that NY. There will be a number of people not happy about an alleged WIfe beater and drunk driver running the team asking for cash.


Why would anyone critical of Larry Sanders ever be willing to even consider bringing in the likes of Jason Kidd?

Don't put them in anywhere near the same category -- lotta folks misreading Sanders' situation, which is nowhere near as bad as it might feel or has been interpreted. No room to let Jason Kidd off the hook though, as his personal AND professional life are obviously totally out of control.

Night and day.

Sanders' critics all line up now and inventory the entire litany of reasons Jason Kidd will never bring his wrecking ball to Milwaukee.
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Post#459 » by Sherman Douglas » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:53 pm

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Post#460 » by Twizman » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:54 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:I mean at this point why not also make him the starting PG? POBO, GM, Coach and lead the team on the floor. I mean he is a HOFer


I'm down for this, Kidd as player-coach :) can someone post that Bryan YES gif hahaha!!

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