Indiana Pacers Draft Pick Watch Thread

M-C-G · Post #441 » by **M-C-G** » Mon May 11, 2020 1:36 am

My highly uninformed opinion, trade down with Boston for 26/30 future second.

Take Leandro Bolmaro and Tyler Bey and just enjoy adding to unique pieces that can be molded. Both guys would be a lot of fun in their own unique ways.

RiotPunch · Post #442 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon May 11, 2020 2:26 am

I think we will have a legit shot at Top-10 talent dropping into our range this year. No tournament, no combine, stock is relatively set. International guys like Bolmaro and Poku will will keep rising, I'd expect, but there shouldn't be much movement.

With guys like Wiseman, Toppin, Achiuwa, McDaniels, Mannion likely getting overdrafted (I am way more down on them than the mainstream), it could push back guys like Killian, Maxey, Cole, Vassell, Kira (my #3-7 ranked guys) into striking distance.

If those guys are gone, I would be down with moving back. Lots of quality depth pieces in this draft, IMO. Not sure Bolmaro and Bey would be there, but even trading back and nabbing Bane and Riller or something would be stellar.

Ron Swanson · Post #443 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon May 11, 2020 2:01 pm

I'm not too high on the international class this year outside of maybe Adivja, who'll obviously be long gone before we pick. Have my doubts that Pokusevski will ever not get thrown around by NBA bigs like a rag doll. Sub-40% from the field for a 7-footer in non-FIBA play is a pretty big red flag and screams not being a natural finisher IMO, 18 years old or not. Maledon is young but that's about it. I don't see any elite translatable skills with him. I'd have to really believe that Bolmaro's jump-shot will come around but the evidence isn't really promising.

Give me any of Nesmith, Vassell, Kira Lewis, Cassius Stanley, Jaden McDaniels, or Isaiah Stewart. At least one of those guys is gonna be there. I like Tyler Bey as well, but for me he's the main nominee in this class for the "don't believe the small sample size 3PT%" award/concern.

emunney · Post #444 » by **emunney** » Mon May 11, 2020 4:25 pm

Vassell is my dude but it seems like all the mocks started putting him lotto in February. It seems kind of unlikely to me, just on an age/talent basis, that Kira Lewis would be there for us.

I actually really like Achiuwa, could be the best defensive player in the draft. He can't shoot but I wouldn't mind terribly doubling down on just holding teams down and farting on them for 48 minutes.

emunney · Post #445 » by **emunney** » Mon May 11, 2020 4:28 pm

I would want to have a plan to trade up for Haliburton if he starts looking like he'll go in the 2nd half of the lotto.

Post #446 » by **Ruzious** » Mon May 11, 2020 8:58 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Couple questions if you have had him on your radar (I was just reading about him and watched a highlight vid today) what do you think about his shooting ability? The low 3% is a bit of a concern, but I never knew the guy existed before today, so might be context there...does it translate to an average or above average shooter?

Any idea about his ability to play team defense?

From watching the vids, I think he is one of those guys that would be a fan favorite for sure...reminds me just a bit of Toni Kukoc

I personally think his shot will be good enough, but there are smart people who are skeptical. Right now he is a better creator/finisher than he is a shooter, but he's gotten a lot better which is encouraging.

He's a limited athlete, but I think he'll be a plus on and off-ball defender. Tenacious as hell and smart, great deflection timing similar to Donte.

Kukoc is a solid comp, but Bolmaro is a better lateral mover with more burst, better defender, Kukoc the better shooter. A bigger Rubio is a popular comp, I've heard Nando de Colo as well, which is probably his floor.

Good stuff.

Interesting comps on Bolmaro. I was a fan of Nando de Colo and wished he stayed in the NBA longer. Such a highly skilled player.

Post #447 » by **Ruzious** » Mon May 11, 2020 9:00 pm

emunney wrote:I would want to have a plan to trade up for Haliburton if he starts looking like he'll go in the 2nd half of the lotto.

I can't see him going past 9, but ya never know. It'd be nice to have the draft lotto to see who's picking where. I don't get why they postponed it.

emunney · Post #448 » by **emunney** » Mon May 11, 2020 9:39 pm

Ruzious wrote:
emunney wrote:I would want to have a plan to trade up for Haliburton if he starts looking like he'll go in the 2nd half of the lotto.

I can't see him going past 9, but ya never know. It'd be nice to have the draft lotto to see who's picking where. I don't get why they postponed it.

Unless the season is over, they don't know who gets how many combinations.

Chuck Diesel · Post #449 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Mon May 11, 2020 11:59 pm

I’m intrigued by the Argentine on Barcelona. Anyone seem him?

emunney · Post #450 » by **emunney** » Tue May 12, 2020 3:33 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:I’m intrigued by the Argentine on Barcelona. Anyone seem him?

Yeah I really like his size and toughness in combination with his skillset. Will be interesting to see how he develops. As upside I picture some sort of midpoint in the continuum between Ingles and Iggy. The size, hook passes, patience in traffic sometimes remind me of Papaloukas. Instinctive at both ends, should be a quality player as he matures.

RiotPunch · Post #451 » by **RiotPunch** » Wed May 13, 2020 3:36 am

emunney wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:I’m intrigued by the Argentine on Barcelona. Anyone seem him?

Yeah I really like his size and toughness in combination with his skillset. Will be interesting to see how he develops. As upside I picture some sort of midpoint in the continuum between Ingles and Iggy. The size, hook passes, patience in traffic sometimes remind me of Papaloukas. Instinctive at both ends, should be a quality player as he matures.

Man, if he just had a fraction of the shooting of Jingles and a fraction of the vertical pop of Iggy, he would be #1 in this class (and a lot of other classes). I wonder how much vertical burst he could realistically gain with Suki? The lateral burst is definitely there. I trust his shooting will improve enough.

vegaspacker · Post #452 » by **vegaspacker** » Thu May 14, 2020 2:28 am

RiotPunch wrote:
emunney wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:I’m intrigued by the Argentine on Barcelona. Anyone seem him?

Yeah I really like his size and toughness in combination with his skillset. Will be interesting to see how he develops. As upside I picture some sort of midpoint in the continuum between Ingles and Iggy. The size, hook passes, patience in traffic sometimes remind me of Papaloukas. Instinctive at both ends, should be a quality player as he matures.

Man, if he just had a fraction of the shooting of Jingles and a fraction of the vertical pop of Iggy, he would be #1 in this class (and a lot of other classes). I wonder how much vertical burst he could realistically gain with Suki? The lateral burst is definitely there. I trust his shooting will improve enough.

I am also intrigued by this prospect. Unfortunately I see him doing Kendall Marshall things against Nba athletes. A few marvelous passes, but not much more.

He's not fluid, finishes ugly... but he does it against that level of talent. I know it's weird but he reminds of a 6'6" Frank Brickowski.

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Post #453 » by **Ruzious** » Thu May 14, 2020 8:20 pm

I'm sure I'll change my mind, but I'll be looking for 1 of these 5 to be the Bucks' pick: either of the Bey's, Vassell, Nesmith, or Josh Green. I think Vassell will go the highest of them - but he could slide. He's got the highest floor of all of them. He doesn't make mistakes, and he's very efficient - but he doesn't have a high ceiling. This is the kind of player you want supporting Giannis.

BucksFanSD · Post #454 » by **BucksFanSD** » Thu May 14, 2020 8:33 pm

My favorites who are now mocked too high for us: Nesmith & Vassell

My favorite most likely available: Kira Lewis Jr.

My favorite gamble pick: Patrick Williams

Ron Swanson · Post #455 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu May 14, 2020 9:22 pm

I'm starting to slowly talk myself into Tyrell Terry. The size/strength concerns are legit, but that shooting stroke is just so pure.

Post #456 » by **Ruzious** » Thu May 14, 2020 10:38 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm starting to slowly talk myself into Tyrell Terry. The size/strength concerns are legit, but that shooting stroke is just so pure.

Kinda high in the to's and low in assists for a small guard - but I see the attraction. Maybe we could buy a 2nd rounder to get him.

jimmybones · Post #457 » by **jimmybones** » Sat May 16, 2020 9:32 pm

emunney wrote:Vassell is my dude but it seems like all the mocks started putting him lotto in February. It seems kind of unlikely to me, just on an age/talent basis, that Kira Lewis would be there for us.

I actually really like Achiuwa, could be the best defensive player in the draft. He can't shoot but I wouldn't mind terribly doubling down on just holding teams down and farting on them for 48 minutes.

Post #458 » by **Ruzious** » Sun May 17, 2020 9:08 pm

Precious also turns the ball over too much to be a starter, imo. But he could be a good energy player off the bench.

JayMKE · Post #459 » by **JayMKE** » Sun May 17, 2020 10:58 pm

Who is the most polished high IQ guy we could take?

Ron Swanson · Post #460 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon May 18, 2020 1:52 pm

JayMKE wrote:Who is the most polished high IQ guy we could take?

Payton Pritchard or Cassius Winston, but I doubt either is an NBA player. Give me Tre Jones over either.