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Post#441 » by greekbuck34 » Sun Dec 6, 2020 8:52 am

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giannis and 1 wrote:Bolded are the players that played any minutes vs the Heat last year:
Brook/Williams/RoLo
Giannis/Ilyasova/Wilson
Middleton/Pat/Brown/Thanasis
Wes/DDV/Korver
Bled/Hill/Mason

This year's roster, with the players that are basically locks to play in the playoffs against a team like the Heat.
Brook/Portis/Patton/Montgomery
Giannis/Craig/Wilson/Diakite
Middleton/Pat/Nwora/Thanasis
Forbes/DDV/Merrill/Graham/Stauskas
Jrue/Augustin/Adams
The others would need to play well to get into that group. How many of these guys will be usable? I think it will be Nwora and 1 of Merrill/Adams.



They dumped all thosetnon playoff guys except thanos for obvious reasons, and Wilson. How the heck did Wilson survive.


Maybe he was the one that snitched the bogdan deal to WOJ to ring change besides Giannis.
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Post#442 » by buckbeer » Sun Dec 6, 2020 8:56 am

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buckbeer wrote:B for Billionaires. Winning the championship is what matters most for the Bucks billionaires' ego, and they do whatever it takes, even trading away 3 1st rd picks and paying 3 max players.

I bet the Bucks luxury tax will increase a lot next year when they extend Jrue.

Wish the Brewers have a billionaire owner, instead they've an owner who is slashing payroll and more concern about making profits.


B is for Brogdon, who could have been traded for Bogdanovich?


The Bucks should've kept Brogdon instead of Bledsoe, that was what I wanted, it was a mistake by the Bucks to let Brogdon go.

To me, Brogdon is a better player than Bogdanovich, no way I'd trade him for Bogdan.

I just notice that there is so many Bs here, Bucks, Brogdon, Bledsoe, Bogdanovich, Billionaires, Brewers..
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Post#443 » by emunney » Sun Dec 6, 2020 2:19 pm

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drew881 wrote:Just get a top 4 seed. This regular season is going to be weird. There will be lots of managing loads with such a weird offseason. #1 priority will be keeping Giannis’ ankles in good shape heading into playoffs.


Is a top 4 seed even going to matter with no fans or even a limited amount of fans at the games?


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Post#444 » by jschligs » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:35 pm

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drew881 wrote:
buckbeer wrote:B for Billionaires. Winning the championship is what matters most for the Bucks billionaires' ego, and they do whatever it takes, even trading away 3 1st rd picks and paying 3 max players.

I bet the Bucks luxury tax will increase a lot next year when they extend Jrue.

Wish the Brewers have a billionaire owner, instead they've an owner who is slashing payroll and more concern about making profits.


B is for Brogdon, who could have been traded for Bogdanovich?


The Bucks should've kept Brogdon instead of Bledsoe, that was what I wanted, it was a mistake by the Bucks to let Brogdon go.

To me, Brogdon is a better player than Bogdanovich, no way I'd trade him for Bogdan.

I just notice that there is so many Bs here, Bucks, Brogdon, Bledsoe, Bogdanovich, Billionaires, Brewers..


While I agree the Bucks should’ve kept Brogdon over Bledsoe, there is a lot more to it than just picking him over Bled. First, we are assuming Brogdon wanted to stay, which we don’t know. Second, he has injuries concerns, that can make $20m/yr a lot harder to swallow.

I’m a firm believer he didn’t want to be here anymore, whether that was due to his role or the city or whatever.
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Post#445 » by giannis and 1 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 12:23 am

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giannis and 1 wrote:Bolded are the players that played any minutes vs the Heat last year:
Brook/Williams/RoLo
Giannis/Ilyasova/Wilson
Middleton/Pat/Brown/Thanasis
Wes/DDV/Korver
Bled/Hill/Mason

This year's roster, with the players that are basically locks to play in the playoffs against a team like the Heat.
Brook/Portis/Patton/Montgomery
Giannis/Craig/Wilson/Diakite
Middleton/Pat/Nwora/Thanasis
Forbes/DDV/Merrill/Graham/Stauskas
Jrue/Augustin/Adams
The others would need to play well to get into that group. How many of these guys will be usable? I think it will be Nwora and 1 of Merrill/Adams.



They dumped all thosetnon playoff guys except thanos for obvious reasons, and Wilson. How the heck did Wilson survive.

No one would take him for free.
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Post#446 » by giannis and 1 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 12:24 am

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drew881 wrote:
buckbeer wrote:B for Billionaires. Winning the championship is what matters most for the Bucks billionaires' ego, and they do whatever it takes, even trading away 3 1st rd picks and paying 3 max players.

I bet the Bucks luxury tax will increase a lot next year when they extend Jrue.

Wish the Brewers have a billionaire owner, instead they've an owner who is slashing payroll and more concern about making profits.


B is for Brogdon, who could have been traded for Bogdanovich?


The Bucks should've kept Brogdon instead of Bledsoe, that was what I wanted, it was a mistake by the Bucks to let Brogdon go.

To me, Brogdon is a better player than Bogdanovich, no way I'd trade him for Bogdan.

I just notice that there is so many Bs here, Bucks, Brogdon, Bledsoe, Bogdanovich, Billionaires, Brewers..

Bogdan is a better fit.
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Post#448 » by giannis and 1 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 12:46 am

Mid season trade idea:

Bucks in: Barnes, Theis, 2022 2nd (from the Kings)
Bucks out: Brook, Augustin, Connaughton

Kings in: Augustin, Connaughton
Kings out: Barnes, 2022 2nd

Celtics in: Brook
Celtics out: Theis

Theis/Portis
Giannis/Craig/Wilson
Barnes/Nwora
Middleton/DDV/Merrill
Jrue/Forbes/Adams
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Post#449 » by TroyD92 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:05 am

giannis and 1 wrote:Mid season trade idea:

Bucks in: Barnes, Theis, 2022 2nd (from the Kings)
Bucks out: Brook, Augustin, Connaughton

Kings in: Augustin, Connaughton
Kings out: Barnes, 2022 2nd

Celtics in: Brook
Celtics out: Theis

Theis/Portis
Giannis/Craig/Wilson
Barnes/Nwora
Middleton/DDV/Merrill
Jrue/Forbes/Adams


Forbes can not play point guard. Nor can DDV.
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Post#451 » by giannis and 1 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:15 am

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giannis and 1 wrote:Mid season trade idea:

Bucks in: Barnes, Theis, 2022 2nd (from the Kings)
Bucks out: Brook, Augustin, Connaughton

Kings in: Augustin, Connaughton
Kings out: Barnes, 2022 2nd

Celtics in: Brook
Celtics out: Theis

Theis/Portis
Giannis/Craig/Wilson
Barnes/Nwora
Middleton/DDV/Merrill
Jrue/Forbes/Adams


Forbes can not play point guard. Nor can DDV.

As backups? Yes. Part of the "point guard" role is played by Giannis anyways. Jrue+Giannis are the primary ballhandlers, and DDV would play that role at times when neither is on the court.
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Post#452 » by TroyD92 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:17 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:Mid season trade idea:

Bucks in: Barnes, Theis, 2022 2nd (from the Kings)
Bucks out: Brook, Augustin, Connaughton

Kings in: Augustin, Connaughton
Kings out: Barnes, 2022 2nd

Celtics in: Brook
Celtics out: Theis

Theis/Portis
Giannis/Craig/Wilson
Barnes/Nwora
Middleton/DDV/Merrill
Jrue/Forbes/Adams


Forbes can not play point guard. Nor can DDV.

As backups? Yes. Part of the "point guard" role is played by Giannis anyways. Jrue+Giannis are the primary ballhandlers, and DDV would play that role at times when neither is on the court.


Giannis shouldn't be the primary ballhandler imo, but beyond that. Bud's rotations are generally terrible and we'll likely see tons of games where both Giannis and Jrue are sitting together. Take out Augustine from that 2nd group and it'll be a disaster.
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Post#453 » by giannis and 1 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:23 am

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giannis and 1 wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
Forbes can not play point guard. Nor can DDV.

As backups? Yes. Part of the "point guard" role is played by Giannis anyways. Jrue+Giannis are the primary ballhandlers, and DDV would play that role at times when neither is on the court.


Giannis shouldn't be the primary ballhandler imo, but beyond that. Bud's rotations are generally terrible and we'll likely see tons of games where both Giannis and Jrue are sitting together. Take out Augustine from that 2nd group and it'll be a disaster.

Don't think there's anything wrong with Giannis being the 1a ball handler and Jrue the 1b as long as we don't start Giannis with the ball at the top of the key that often. The problems we run into have more to do with the offensive system than Giannis having the ball. I want to see what Giannis can do in a more dynamic offense. As for Bud's rotations, you do have a point. But..
Theis
Barnes
Middleton
DDV
Forbes

That's not that bad. I think DDV would be in a position to succeed in this type of group where he is surrounded by shooters.
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Post#454 » by TroyD92 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:25 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:As backups? Yes. Part of the "point guard" role is played by Giannis anyways. Jrue+Giannis are the primary ballhandlers, and DDV would play that role at times when neither is on the court.


Giannis shouldn't be the primary ballhandler imo, but beyond that. Bud's rotations are generally terrible and we'll likely see tons of games where both Giannis and Jrue are sitting together. Take out Augustine from that 2nd group and it'll be a disaster.

Don't think there's anything wrong with Giannis being the 1a ball handler and Jrue the 1b as long as we don't start Giannis with the ball at the top of the key that often. The problems we run into have more to do with the offensive system than Giannis having the ball. I want to see what Giannis can do in a more dynamic offense. As for Bud's rotations, you do have a point. But..
Theis
Barnes
Middleton
DDV
Forbes

That's not that bad. I think DDV would be in a position to succeed in this type of group where he is surrounded by shooters.


I guess i'm not as high on DDV as some, but he was significantly worse as a distributor than both Hill and Bledsoe from what I remember.
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Post#455 » by Prez » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:27 am

What’s going on with Brook? I don’t remember seeing anything about him, not practice or media availability
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Post#456 » by giannis and 1 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:33 am

TroyD92 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
Giannis shouldn't be the primary ballhandler imo, but beyond that. Bud's rotations are generally terrible and we'll likely see tons of games where both Giannis and Jrue are sitting together. Take out Augustine from that 2nd group and it'll be a disaster.

Don't think there's anything wrong with Giannis being the 1a ball handler and Jrue the 1b as long as we don't start Giannis with the ball at the top of the key that often. The problems we run into have more to do with the offensive system than Giannis having the ball. I want to see what Giannis can do in a more dynamic offense. As for Bud's rotations, you do have a point. But..
Theis
Barnes
Middleton
DDV
Forbes

That's not that bad. I think DDV would be in a position to succeed in this type of group where he is surrounded by shooters.


I guess i'm not as high on DDV as some, but he was significantly worse as a distributor than both Hill and Bledsoe from what I remember.

He's prone to making errant passes like Bledsoe. We will see what he does this year, if he improves his shooting, he won't have as much pressure to find the open guy and will be able to react better against defenses as opposed to overthinking.
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Post#457 » by TroyD92 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 1:37 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:Don't think there's anything wrong with Giannis being the 1a ball handler and Jrue the 1b as long as we don't start Giannis with the ball at the top of the key that often. The problems we run into have more to do with the offensive system than Giannis having the ball. I want to see what Giannis can do in a more dynamic offense. As for Bud's rotations, you do have a point. But..
Theis
Barnes
Middleton
DDV
Forbes

That's not that bad. I think DDV would be in a position to succeed in this type of group where he is surrounded by shooters.


I guess i'm not as high on DDV as some, but he was significantly worse as a distributor than both Hill and Bledsoe from what I remember.

He's prone to making errant passes like Bledsoe. We will see what he does this year, if he improves his shooting, he won't have as much pressure to find the open guy and will be able to react better against defenses as opposed to overthinking.


DDV does have great feel for the game so there is some hope.
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Post#458 » by DrWood » Mon Dec 7, 2020 4:28 am

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He's a better fit here than Donte. I'd definitely do it. I wanted Trent at 17 that year we picked Donte.

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Post#459 » by DrWood » Mon Dec 7, 2020 4:30 am

TroyD92 wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
Giannis shouldn't be the primary ballhandler imo, but beyond that. Bud's rotations are generally terrible and we'll likely see tons of games where both Giannis and Jrue are sitting together. Take out Augustine from that 2nd group and it'll be a disaster.

Don't think there's anything wrong with Giannis being the 1a ball handler and Jrue the 1b as long as we don't start Giannis with the ball at the top of the key that often. The problems we run into have more to do with the offensive system than Giannis having the ball. I want to see what Giannis can do in a more dynamic offense. As for Bud's rotations, you do have a point. But..
Theis
Barnes
Middleton
DDV
Forbes

That's not that bad. I think DDV would be in a position to succeed in this type of group where he is surrounded by shooters.


I guess i'm not as high on DDV as some, but he was significantly worse as a distributor than both Hill and Bledsoe from what I remember.

I don't think he was encouraged to do so.
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Post#460 » by DrWood » Mon Dec 7, 2020 4:39 am

Licensed to Il wrote:I don’t want this to turn in to a “covid optimists vs covid pessimists” but its pretty likely that stadiums will have at least partial capacity by late spring. Vaccines are already being distributed. And if Fiserv has even 6,000 fans in it, it will just seem like a rockin night at the Bradley Center!

25% would be about 4,300.
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