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Post#441 » by drew881 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:38 pm

Profound23 wrote:If it is true that Stotts basically wanted to run most of the offensive scheme through Dame and make Giannis the second banana, then good riddance.


Thought most of us wanted that…
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Post#442 » by Karsenmitsche » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:38 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:We've run the whole gambit of theories from blaming Griff, Giannis, Dame's body language, the hiring process/timeline, etc. But I'm surprised no one's brought up the possibility of:

"65-year old coach's offensive scheme/philosophy is outdated after being whisked out of retirement and didn't see the point in sticking around after realizing his ideas weren't being received warmly by the coaches and/or players".

Now we have some Blazers fans in the GB board speculating that Dame actually didn't care for Stotts towards the end of his tenure in Portland (which would also explain why he so eagerly signed off on Billups).


everything dame has said about stotts since he’s been here has shown zero reasons for this to be plausible.
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Re: Stotts Steps Down 

Post#443 » by MVP2110 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:38 pm

Tuxedo38 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:The Windy video:

https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=38697569


Unless this marriage was made strictly to make Milwaukee more appealing to Dame (which kudos to Horst/whoever if true), why even force Stotts on Griffin? Like trust the guy enough to pick his own staff. Maybe push him to get a veteran mind on the staff because he's still a rookie head coach, but give him the ability to actually pick that specific guy. It sends the wrong message in my opinion and the chain of command can get muddied when issues arise.


It's pretty common to give 1st time head coaches an experienced assistant and usually that comes from relationships the front office have built because 1st time HCs don't often have those connections.
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Re: Stotts Steps Down 

Post#444 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:38 pm

Karsenmitsche wrote:If Rolo plays more than 15 minutes opening night i’m ready to start the fire train up


This is a self-fulfilling prophecy if I've ever seen one lol. Sixers are literally the one East team (Embiid) where RoLo makes sense to play backup minutes.
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Post#445 » by Daver » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:39 pm

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That's sort of the point. If AG gets the Bucks off to a fast start alot of this will die down, but if the Bucks get off to a slow start there is already alot of angst among the fanbase about Griff


So if bucks got off to a slow start n stotts was still there this board would still blame beas n AG not stotts so why does it matter if hes there or not.ACs dont get credit or blame


My point is most coaches get a honeymoon period or a grace period before the fanbase inevitably calls for them to be fired. AG has already seemingly burned through his and the season hasn't even started yet.


Never had a honeymoon here most buck fans never wanted him as the bucks HC go back to when he was hired you see more posts calling it stupid or terrible etc.This fan base has never given grif a chance and it wont every loss every mistake will be magnified 2xs on this board by the grif sucks crowd.
He makes a decision he thinks is best for the team you n everyone else comes out questioning his every decision.From the very 1st day.He never had a grace period and its really sad
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Re: Stotts Steps Down 

Post#446 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:40 pm

Tuxedo38 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:The Windy video:

https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=38697569


Unless this marriage was made strictly to make Milwaukee more appealing to Dame (which kudos to Horst/whoever if true), why even force Stotts on Griffin? Like trust the guy enough to pick his own staff. Maybe push him to get a veteran mind on the staff because he's still a rookie head coach, but give him the ability to actually pick that specific guy. It sends the wrong message in my opinion and the chain of command can get muddied when issues arise.


It may be unanswerable but we don't know if AG would have been hired if Giannis didn't specifically ask for him. Stotts (or Insert Other Vet Offensive Coach) may have been a stipulation to hiring AG in the first place.
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Re: Stotts Steps Down 

Post#447 » by ABucksFan » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:40 pm

Is MJS a Bucks mouthpiece? PR team must be working on how to spin this or what narrative to put out there? Coming from WOJ and with Windy saying what he did, Stotts camp has to be giving info right? Seems like everyone is real quiet waiting for one side to come out first orrrr could be NBD.
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Post#448 » by MVP2110 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm

Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
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So if bucks got off to a slow start n stotts was still there this board would still blame beas n AG not stotts so why does it matter if hes there or not.ACs dont get credit or blame


My point is most coaches get a honeymoon period or a grace period before the fanbase inevitably calls for them to be fired. AG has already seemingly burned through his and the season hasn't even started yet.


Never had a honeymoon here most buck fans never wanted him as the bucks HC go back to when he was hired you see more posts calling it stupid or terrible etc.This fan base has never given grif a chance and it wont every loss every mistake will be magnified 2xs on this board by the grif sucks crowd.
He makes a decision he thinks is best for the team you n everyone else comes out questioning his every decision.From the very 1st day.He never had a grace period and its really sad


When coaches say stupid things I tend not to like them

As far as the rest of the fanbase I saw plenty of pro Griffin stuff when he was hired and alot of that has already turned against him
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Re: Stotts Steps Down 

Post#449 » by ABucksFan » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm

drew881 wrote:
Profound23 wrote:If it is true that Stotts basically wanted to run most of the offensive scheme through Dame and make Giannis the second banana, then good riddance.


Thought most of us wanted that…


I think even Giannis wanted that :lol:
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Post#450 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:41 pm

Karsenmitsche wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:We've run the whole gambit of theories from blaming Griff, Giannis, Dame's body language, the hiring process/timeline, etc. But I'm surprised no one's brought up the possibility of:

"65-year old coach's offensive scheme/philosophy is outdated after being whisked out of retirement and didn't see the point in sticking around after realizing his ideas weren't being received warmly by the coaches and/or players".

Now we have some Blazers fans in the GB board speculating that Dame actually didn't care for Stotts towards the end of his tenure in Portland (which would also explain why he so eagerly signed off on Billups).


everything dame has said about stotts since he’s been here has shown zero reasons for this to be plausible.


And everything Griffin has said since he was hired (and just said in the presser) has been positive and glowing about Stotts. You guys are all just picking and choosing whatever unsubstantiated rumors and narratives that you wanna believe.
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Re: Stotts Steps Down 

Post#451 » by drew881 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:42 pm

ABucksFan wrote:
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Profound23 wrote:If it is true that Stotts basically wanted to run most of the offensive scheme through Dame and make Giannis the second banana, then good riddance.


Thought most of us wanted that…


I think even Giannis wanted that :lol:


I don’t think Giannis wants that but he should.
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Post#452 » by Shaffty » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:43 pm

Khris' quotes make it sound like Terry wasnt cut out for the assistant coach grind
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Post#453 » by drew881 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:45 pm

Shaffty wrote:Khris' quotes make it sound like Terry wasnt cut out for the assistant coach grind


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Post#454 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:45 pm

Where was that Giannis quote where he said something like "I'll set as many screens as they want me to set"?

GUYS! SOMEBODY'S LYING!!!!
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Post#455 » by Daver » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:45 pm

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Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
My point is most coaches get a honeymoon period or a grace period before the fanbase inevitably calls for them to be fired. AG has already seemingly burned through his and the season hasn't even started yet.


Never had a honeymoon here most buck fans never wanted him as the bucks HC go back to when he was hired you see more posts calling it stupid or terrible etc.This fan base has never given grif a chance and it wont every loss every mistake will be magnified 2xs on this board by the grif sucks crowd.
He makes a decision he thinks is best for the team you n everyone else comes out questioning his every decision.From the very 1st day.He never had a grace period and its really sad


When coaches say stupid things I tend not to like them

As far as the rest of the fanbase I saw plenty of pro Griffin stuff when he was hired and alot of that has already turned against him



You must of really hated bud then yes cause 95% of what bud said was stupid things
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Re: Stotts Steps Down 

Post#456 » by MVP2110 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:47 pm

Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Daver wrote:
Never had a honeymoon here most buck fans never wanted him as the bucks HC go back to when he was hired you see more posts calling it stupid or terrible etc.This fan base has never given grif a chance and it wont every loss every mistake will be magnified 2xs on this board by the grif sucks crowd.
He makes a decision he thinks is best for the team you n everyone else comes out questioning his every decision.From the very 1st day.He never had a grace period and its really sad


When coaches say stupid things I tend not to like them

As far as the rest of the fanbase I saw plenty of pro Griffin stuff when he was hired and alot of that has already turned against him



You must of really hated bud then yes cause 95% of what bud said was stupid things


Nah Bud was an extremely successful head coach. Were there things I disagreed with sometimes yes, but for the most part he made really sound smart decisions that immediately turned us from a middling team to a title contender and one of the best 5 year stretches in Bucks history. I'm very worried us firing Bud is us losing excellence trying to chase perfection.
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Post#457 » by drew881 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:47 pm

Bud must be loving this randomness
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Post#458 » by PG Graveyard » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:49 pm

Shaffty wrote:Khris' quotes make it sound like Terry wasnt cut out for the assistant coach grind


After reading the full AG quote this still seems most likely. Doesn’t mean he’s retired just this wasn’t what he wanted to do. Better now than in January
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Post#459 » by greekbuck34 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:50 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Where was that Giannis quote where he said something like "I'll set as many screens as they want me to set"?

GUYS! SOMEBODY'S LYING!!!!


After that he says if I have to set 50 screens for him I will set these 50 screens.



Edit:

Here's the whole presser. He said everything you want him to do after the 9:00 minute.

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: I think that we will do worse than last season and that Giannis is now just a mere all star. All because we switched from Bud to Griffin.
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Post#460 » by PG Graveyard » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:50 pm

The bar for AG to step over for me continues to be will he remember to call a timeout in a tie game close out playoff game.

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