2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27

[Ron Swanson]

If we keep both picks and draft two non-playoff rotation dudes then Horst has absolutely failed the offseason before it's even begun.

They have to be playoff rotation dudes as NBA rookies or do you mean eventually?

Eventually. Carrington and Chomche? Sure, I can get behind the thought process. Both guys have legit two-way starter potential even if they won't contribute the first 1-2 years. But using a 1st on a 22-year old vanity project big based on the thought process of "this draft sucks anyways, why not?" is textbook talking yourself into a bad pick and completely wasting an asset you could use to upgrade the team in meaningful ways elsewhere. But I guess that's sort of a too extreme view on Edey for some people.

[Fotis St]

Bleecher NBA mock draft has upgraded Cam Christie at 39 and Bona is at 38.... Carrighton is at our reach too #26... I didn't scout him well enough, I think I liked him so much that thought he was gone early. Will check back and edit the post. Also Tyler Smith showed at #22... our spot at #23 is intriguing

[jakecronus8]

Hopeful that the undervaluing of bigs/overvaluing of wings works in our favor

[buckboy]

Why?

He was a dreadful 3 point shooter until last year (and he wasn't great last year either).

If he can't shoot the 3 I think he's fairly useless.

37% is pretty great and he also increased his FT% to 80% the same season, both on higher volume. It's possible it's a fluky season and he just happened to shoot better from three and the line while taking way more of both (he took 210 3s his first three seasons combined and 160 last season) but it seems more likely to me he just made a jump. As far as I know usually an increase in volume means a decrease in efficiency.

36.9% was good for 461st in D1. Meh.

I chose the phrase "don't trust" because I don't believe the shooting is real. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

The free throw shooting is encouraging until you realize he shot 96 FT all season.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't even have Hawkins in my Top-60. Awful rebounder, terrible athlete, okay length but he's tiny for a PF (215 lbs), and turns 23 in December. I'm not seeing a lick of NBA potential with him unless you think he randomly turns into a Davis Bertans type shooter the second he hits an NBA court. I think he for sure withdraws from the draft and goes back to school. He's not ready (and probably never will be).

[FrieAaron]

36.9% was good for 461st in D1. Meh.

I chose the phrase "don't trust" because I don't believe the shooting is real. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.

The free throw shooting is encouraging until you realize he shot 96 FT all season.

Yeah it's the FT% that would reinforce the improvement may be real. He might not necessarily be my favorite at 23, I still haven't looked at a lot of these guys, but his shot doesn't look super broken or anything and if he can shoot even at an average clip he seems like a pretty useful player.

[machu46]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/page/NBADraft24-40192203/2024-nba-mock-draft-projecting-all-58-picks-post-combine
ESPN updated their mock today. The picks around ours as well as some other potential notables:

18. Johnny Furphy
19. Kyshawn George
20. Carlton Carrington
21. Isaiah Collier
22. Kyle Filipowski
23. Yves Missi - The Bucks have needs at several positions and will likely be opportunistic depending on which player falls to their pick. Missi's impressive size, length, mobility and explosiveness gives him significant upside to tap into long-term. He's only been playing organized basketball for three years but showed notable progress offensively at Baylor this past season, along with flashes of rim-protection prowess. -- Givony
24. Tyler Smith
25. Kel'el Ware
26. Bobi Klintman
27. Baylor Scheierman
28. Tyler Kolek
29. Justin Edwards
30. Kevin McCullar
31. Ryan Dunn
32. Jaylon Tyson
33. Terrence Shannon
34. AJ Johnson
35. Cam Christie
36. Alex Karaban
37. Juan NUnez
38. Ulrich Chomche
39. Adem Bona

41. Nikola Djurisic
49. Dillon Jones
50. DaRon Holmes
53. Jamal Shead
54. Bronny James

[JonHeist]

we're pretty fortunate that this draft is full of athletic centers and wings with defensive upside

[Ron Swanson]

Interesting. I don't think Missi will be there at our pick, but if he is, he's definitely the Center prospect that you'd consider due to upside/talent more than the other dudes like Filipowski, Edey, and even Ware. Huge hands, freakish vertical athlete for his size, and despite how raw he is, that spin move and the way he extends all kinda remind me of young Giannis.

[msiris]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/page/NBADraft24-40192203/2024-nba-mock-draft-projecting-all-58-picks-post-combine
ESPN updated their mock today. The picks around ours as well as some other potential notables:

18. Johnny Furphy
19. Kyshawn George
20. Carlton Carrington
21. Isaiah Collier
22. Kyle Filipowski
23. Yves Missi - The Bucks have needs at several positions and will likely be opportunistic depending on which player falls to their pick. Missi's impressive size, length, mobility and explosiveness gives him significant upside to tap into long-term. He's only been playing organized basketball for three years but showed notable progress offensively at Baylor this past season, along with flashes of rim-protection prowess. -- Givony
24. Tyler Smith
25. Kel'el Ware
26. Bobi Klintman
27. Baylor Scheierman
28. Tyler Kolek
29. Justin Edwards
30. Kevin McCullar
31. Ryan Dunn
32. Jaylon Tyson
33. Terrence Shannon
34. AJ Johnson
35. Cam Christie
36. Alex Karaban
37. Juan NUnez
38. Ulrich Chomche
39. Adem Bona

41. Nikola Djurisic
49. Dillon Jones
50. DaRon Holmes
53. Jamal Shead
54. Bronny James

Would rather have Ware. Really like that 2nd pick.

[Fotis St]

we're pretty fortunate that this draft is full of athletic centers and wings with defensive upside

Yes, the only "available" guards I like are Carlton Carrington and Cam Christie, both oversized lean athletic young guards that can shoot.... so to sum it up ...

PG/SG Carlton Carrington, Cam Christie ..... SG Pelle Larsson, PG Kolek

PF/ C Zach Edey, Tyler Smith, DaRon Holmes, Kel'el Ware, Adem Bona, Oso Ighodaro

SF/PF Tristan Da Silva, Johnny Furphy, Djurisic, Coleman Hawkins

[buckboy]

Interesting. I don't think Missi will be there at our pick, but if he is, he's definitely the Center prospect that you'd consider due to upside/talent more than the other dudes like Filipowski, Edey, and even Ware. Huge hands, freakish vertical athlete for his size, and despite how raw he is, that spin move and the way he extends all kinda remind me of young Giannis.

We'd finally get Mo Bamba.

[msiris]

Interesting. I don't think Missi will be there at our pick, but if he is, he's definitely the Center prospect that you'd consider due to upside/talent more than the other dudes like Filipowski, Edey, and even Ware. Huge hands, freakish vertical athlete for his size, and despite how raw he is, that spin move and the way he extends all kinda remind me of young Giannis.

We'd finally get Mo Bamba.

Another guy who sucks? Lol

[msiris]

Yves Missi is not a spacer. Just say no to projects.

[Ron Swanson]

Interesting. I don't think Missi will be there at our pick, but if he is, he's definitely the Center prospect that you'd consider due to upside/talent more than the other dudes like Filipowski, Edey, and even Ware. Huge hands, freakish vertical athlete for his size, and despite how raw he is, that spin move and the way he extends all kinda remind me of young Giannis.

We'd finally get Mo Bamba.

He wishes he had Bamba's length, but conversely, Bamba wishes he could ever do stuff like this:

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Yves Missi makes things happen on defense. If the season ended today, he would join Joel Embiid, Onyeka Okongwu, and Isaiah Jackson as the only high-major freshmen to post a BLK% over 9.5, STL% over 2, and BPM over 3 in the last decade.

Bamba isn't really a great comp IMO. Dude's more than just a rim-protector on defense.

[emunney]

Missi is dope. Best roll man prospect in college. Great hands, great instincts finishing. Super smooth for a guy who hasn't been playing long. I like him a lot. Not sure he's a great fit for what we're doing right now but never draft for need. His touch inside is also underdiscussed, I think.

Also think that it would be good to have a vertical spacer for when Giannis catches on the short roll and two guys step up to him. He's got to be able to hit either corner or throw a lob from that spot. Missi can go and get it.

[Badgerlander]

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[JayMKE]

looks like another 45 to go

[Ron Swanson]

I haven't really considered him in the early-2nd, but Jaxson Robinson is an intriguing dude. Huge wingspan (6'11.25) SG that should translate defensively (0.7 blocks per-40). Only a 34% college 3PT shooter, but an 84% guy from the line with good-looking mechanics, so you can feel confident in some natural shooting progression/development. Isaiah Joe vibes.

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[ReasonablySober]

I haven't really considered him in the early-2nd, but Jaxson Robinson is an intriguing dude. Huge wingspan (6'11.25) SG that should translate defensively (0.7 blocks per-40). Only a 34% college 3PT shooter, but an 84% guy from the line with good-looking mechanics, so you can feel confident in some natural shooting progression/development. Isaiah Joe vibes.

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Didn't you just this week have a post calling wingspan overrated for a guard, and now you're leading with it?