#12, Brockman, Leuer, SL for #14, Dalembert

Baddy Chuck · Post #461 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:37 pm

xTitan wrote:
DocHoliday wrote:
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Bucks ranked 20th in pick and roll - roll man efficiency last season. Samuel Dalembert ranked 13th among players with 1.21 PTS/Possession

Go watch Goran Drajic run the pick and roll and you will realize why it worked.

BUT MONTA ELLIS IS SUCH A GOOD PICK AND ROLL PLAYER!!!!!1!!11!!!

stellation · Post #462 » by **stellation** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:37 pm

That looks to be a not awful trade. I'm confused.

raferfenix · Post #463 » by **raferfenix** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:37 pm

unklchuk wrote:I view this trade as a savvy move. To me it feels like a foundation move that prepares the way for another move or two. Maybe something tomorrow. Maybe later this off-season. A mid-level move that may have better than mid-level consequences. Will likely help the team's fit. Good fit makes the individuals better.

I assume that there are at least 14 players the Bucks would like to have. If so, dropping 2 slots matters little.

Agreed. Dalembert gives us the potential of having a good defense next year, as opposed to a putrid one again.

That was essential if we really expected to win now with a BJ / Ellis backcourt.

And regardless of that, if another move is coming up, it will be made in the context of how we no longer have a gaping wound of a hole at center.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #464 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:38 pm

we should be able to find better ways to spend ersans money with the lineup we have on this team now. id rather go get a guy like carl landry as far as fit goes with the the other bodies we could put around him.

Post #465 » by **jr lucosa** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:40 pm

stellation wrote:That looks to be a not awful trade. I'm confused.

Baddy Chuck · Post #466 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:41 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:we should be able to find better ways to spend ersans money with the lineup we have on this team now. id rather go get a guy like carl landry as far as fit goes with the the other bodies we could put around him.

Carl Landry just isn't good.

LUKE23 · Post #467 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:42 pm

Absolutely not to Carl Landry.

Post #468 » by **jr lucosa** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:42 pm

Yep. No Landry please.

Nebula1 · Post #469 » by **Nebula1** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:43 pm

We don't need another PF if we intend to play Moute at some point. We have 5 bigs: Dalembert, Sanders, Udoh, Gooden, Moute. I think Hammond will be able to find much better value for a 6th big for a small contract to round out the depth if he feels the need. I'd be exploring the Ds or an undrafted player or something along those lines.

SheedsWeed · Post #470 » by **SheedsWeed** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:43 pm

Does anyone have a free agent list? Crazy that free agency starts a few days after the draft tomorrow.

JackSIKMA43 · Post #471 » by **JackSIKMA43** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:44 pm

Can we just unload Skiles to the Magic and get Jerry Sloan here??? I'd welcome that change before I even begin breaking the roster down.

This is what scares me the most ... we draft or bring in players that fit Skiles and only Skiles, and then he'll be gone in a year, along with Hammond, and my fear is that all the pieces will fit worse than they do now.

JayMKE · Post #472 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:44 pm

Jennings, Monta, Dunleavy, Gooden, Dalembert

we're so much better than last year, we're totally gunna make the playoffs

msiris · Post #473 » by **msiris** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:46 pm

I will laugh if we pick Zeller or Meyers. This board will go nuts.

jeremyd236 · Post #474 » by **jeremyd236** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:47 pm

I like this trade, although I'm a big Leuer fan.

Cold Crush 24 · Post #475 » by **Cold Crush 24** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:48 pm

Meh trade. Dal was a Bogut killer. We always go after the guys that shat upon us.

JayMKE · Post #476 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:49 pm

msiris wrote:I will laugh if we pick Zeller or Meyers. This board will go nuts.

Oh it will be too much to resist for Hammond

Ross will go a pick or before us and this board will riot

I got on the tank and I'm not abandoning it for Hammonds' patented band aid move that inevitably blows up in his face once again.

BUCKnation · Post #477 » by **BUCKnation** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:49 pm

While it is a step step move, it is an upgrade and a good trade. (Although, if we draft one of the big men linked to us, it is no longer a good trade)

There really is no difference between 12 and 14 in terms of who we are interested in. Dalembert ensures we see no more Gooden at C and we probably wont draft a C along with him being a valuable expiring. The only the negative is losing Leuer, but that is a minimal move. Hopefully MTC.

Oh and btw, can we get Gooden off this team already. Rotations would be so easy to set up and we dont have to hear about his outlet passes anymore among other things. I look forward to seeing Dally/Sanders and some Udoh doing some calculus as the center.

unklchuk · Post #478 » by **unklchuk** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:50 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:we should be able to find better ways to spend ersans money with the lineup we have on this team now. id rather go get a guy like carl landry as far as fit goes with the the other bodies we could put around him.

While I basically agree, I also suspect I might like Ersan better at PF if Dalembert was beside him. I view Illy as an incomplete PF and wonder if Dal (what will be his nickname?) would be a help.

Maybe what it does is give us flexibility in various options. Remove some of the pressure to re-sign Ersan to too big a contract. Consider Landry and others. Consider giving more time to Udoh and Sanders.

raferfenix · Post #479 » by **raferfenix** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:51 pm

JayMKE wrote:Jennings, Monta, Dunleavy, Gooden, Dalembert

we're so much better than last year, we're totally gunna make the playoffs

If we don't resign Ersan, I'd hope / expect us to acquire at least one other starting caliber player at one of the forward spots at least.

SheedsWeed · Post #480 » by **SheedsWeed** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:51 pm

msiris wrote:I will laugh if we pick Zeller or Meyers. This board will go nuts.

I really can't see that happening, but it does make me nervous if Leonard drops. I can just imagine Hammond hearing Chad Ford (I think it was) saying how Leonard is the best C prospect in the draft, even better than Drummond, and drafting him.

Again, I highly doubt they draft Leonard/Zeller/Henson, but it is something you can't put past Hammond.