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The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

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What should the Bucks do with Jennings?

Offer him the QO
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Offer him a long-term deal
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Let him walk
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#461 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:19 pm

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It's going to create a toxic locker room again with a point guard who is only interested in getting his own stats and not looking to develop players like Henson & Sanders.

We either need to decide we're going to move forward with him or cut bait.

Bringing him back on the QO would be like when Skiles came back with 1 year left on his contract.


The Bucks don't have a strong win now roster anyway this year, and him being toxic for one season (or even more likely, part of one, my guess is they'd try and trade him) is far better than signing him for 4 years.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#462 » by yoshii8 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:26 pm

LUKE23 wrote:
Sigra wrote:What is Jonas Jerebko?


Garbage.


I thought Jerebko was a good player his rookie season, he had a knee injury, but I still think he's a pretty decent player. I definitely don't think he's garbage.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#463 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:34 pm

StikWitEM wrote:I don't see a trade happening. With that said I would gladly take Knight over Jennings. How are you guys so down on Knight? He actually plays defense and if it weren't for a poor coaching staff the last few years switching him back and forth between PG and SG, he might be a lot better. Someone needs to tutor him and mold him into a PG and not just shuffle him around. I think Larry Drew can mold him into a better all around PG than Jennings will ever be.


The problem is he's not a PG. Detroit played him a lot there his first season and finally realized half way through last season that he's terrible when asked to run the point. His assist to TO ratio is terrible, and considering how much this board harps on efficiency, I find it strange that people would want a guy that shot even worse than Monta last year while taking only half as many shots.

SG is his natural position, and I get the potential aspect of it. He's only 21, and I'm not opposed to dealing Brandon for him at all, but I just don't see why people would get excited about it if we acquire him to play PG.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#464 » by raferfenix » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:40 pm

It's pretty hilarious that we picked up Ridnour as a stop gap before Jennings' rookie season and now he might be back in the same situation.

There is no doubt that Henson and Sanders' development would go better with Luke looking to set them up for easy baskets vs Jennings chucking and bitching in the lockerroom.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#465 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:41 pm

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StikWitEM wrote:I don't see a trade happening. With that said I would gladly take Knight over Jennings. How are you guys so down on Knight? He actually plays defense and if it weren't for a poor coaching staff the last few years switching him back and forth between PG and SG, he might be a lot better. Someone needs to tutor him and mold him into a PG and not just shuffle him around. I think Larry Drew can mold him into a better all around PG than Jennings will ever be.


The problem is he's not a PG. Detroit played him a lot there his first season and finally realized half way through last season that he's terrible when asked to run the point. His assist to TO ratio is terrible, and considering how much this board harps on efficiency, I find it strange that people would want a guy that shot even worse than Monta last year while taking only half as many shots.

SG is his natural position, and I get the potential aspect of it. He's only 21, and I'm not opposed to dealing Brandon for him at all, but I just don't see why people would get excited about it if we acquire him to play PG.


I want him because he's a great stealthtank PG.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#466 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:46 pm

So from the other thread Woelfel says we are talking Jennings for Stuckey.

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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#467 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:47 pm

Stuckey was terrible last year. Wouldn't shock me at all to see us target him.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#468 » by Godgers » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:48 pm

I would take Ridnour over Jennings.

Jennings is like a plague and a trap. That talent will never turn into anything.

Kohl and Hammond didn't want to rebuild but the joke is on them because they suck at everything and this team is lotto bound even with there win now crap.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#469 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:51 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Stuckey was terrible last year. Wouldn't shock me at all to see us target him.


Wouldn't be surprised in the least. Even the money fits.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#470 » by Chapter29 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:57 pm

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Chapter29 wrote:Not sure on the accuracy of this, but....

Apparently Jennings was renting a condo on the river here downtown.

According to my friend Jennings left a condo full of stuff from furniture to clothing and never came back to town to clear it out.

If this is true, he really wanted out of town badly and perhaps thought he was getting paid big time and didn't care about the financial aspect.



That info must be a year old.

Jennings has been living in the Moderne on 3rd St. since Nov 2012

http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2012/11/16/ho ... erne-digs/


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Post#471 » by BuckFan25226 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:59 pm

Hmmmm, so you have Billups, Knight, & Jennings.

Billups will walk off the court and quit 10 games into the season.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#472 » by TheWig » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:00 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Stuckey was terrible last year. Wouldn't shock me at all to see us target him.


Perfect for the tank
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Post#473 » by CaptainAwesome » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:04 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:So from the other thread Woelfel says we are talking Jennings for Stuckey.

Great.


I wonder if these are the same sources from the Teague deal.

I don't trust Woeful. He seems to be turning into that other guy that we mocked a lot a couple weeks back for just throwing stuff out there and hoping something sticks.

Heaven forbid you challenge Woeful's sources or track record to Sparky. He goes all DukeH/Jim on you.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#474 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:11 pm

I would have no doubt that Hammond and Dumars talked about this. It makes perfect sense for Detroit. Buy low on a disgruntled guy who might blow up in a different city. For us, Stuckey is the perfect crap Hammond acquisition. Veteran guy who will soon be on the decline, "big guard", can play both positions, etc.

I'd actually be fine in dealing with Detroit for Brandon Knight. He hasn't proven to be very good, but he's still 21 and only entering season number three. He still has some possible upside. But as usual we have to take the lesser asset from other teams in trade. It is the Hammond Way.
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#475 » by jtcooky » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:12 pm

I'm sure Stuckey would just play as the backup 2 off the bench. Even if he's terrible ~20 min. a night wouldn't kill us. Hopefully
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Post#476 » by BuckFan25226 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:16 pm

CaptainAwesome wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:So from the other thread Woelfel says we are talking Jennings for Stuckey.

Great.


I wonder if these are the same sources from the Teague deal.

I don't trust Woeful. He seems to be turning into that other guy that we mocked a lot a couple weeks back for just throwing stuff out there and hoping something sticks.

Heaven forbid you challenge Woeful's sources or track record to Sparky. He goes all DukeH/Jim on you.



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Post#477 » by jtcooky » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:16 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I would have no doubt that Hammond and Dumars talked about this. It makes perfect sense for Detroit. Buy low on a disgruntled guy who might blow up in a different city. For us, Stuckey is the perfect crap Hammond acquisition. Veteran guy who will soon be on the decline, "big guard", can play both positions, etc.

I'd actually be fine in dealing with Detroit for Brandon Knight. He hasn't proven to be very good, but he's still 21 and only entering season number three. He still has some possible upside. But as usual we have to take the lesser asset from other teams in trade. It is the Hammond Way.


So Knight is the lesser player in your mind?
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Post#478 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:17 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I would have no doubt that Hammond and Dumars talked about this. It makes perfect sense for Detroit. Buy low on a disgruntled guy who might blow up in a different city. For us, Stuckey is the perfect crap Hammond acquisition. Veteran guy who will soon be on the decline, "big guard", can play both positions, etc.

I'd actually be fine in dealing with Detroit for Brandon Knight. He hasn't proven to be very good, but he's still 21 and only entering season number three. He still has some possible upside. But as usual we have to take the lesser asset from other teams in trade. It is the Hammond Way.


I agree, but I doubt that Detroit gives up on Knight this early, especially now that they've finally seemed to settle him in at SG. Stuckey is awful but that might be perfect for the rebuild. No way we are a playoff team with Rodney Stuckey playing anything more than 15 minutes per game.....so there's that
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#479 » by engelmartin » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:18 pm

Someone catch me up on this,

Stuckey used to look pretty promising. I remember that freaky neck injury ala TJ Ford, but that must have been 5 or 6 years ago now. What happened last year?

And how can his contract match up with Brandon's, considering Brandon doesn't have a contract yet>
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Re: The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (who has cap space left?) 

Post#480 » by Craig_Hodges » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:26 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:I would have no doubt that Hammond and Dumars talked about this. It makes perfect sense for Detroit. Buy low on a disgruntled guy who might blow up in a different city. For us, Stuckey is the perfect crap Hammond acquisition. Veteran guy who will soon be on the decline, "big guard", can play both positions, etc.

I'd actually be fine in dealing with Detroit for Brandon Knight. He hasn't proven to be very good, but he's still 21 and only entering season number three. He still has some possible upside. But as usual we have to take the lesser asset from other teams in trade. It is the Hammond Way.

How amazingly depressing this post is. Putting it this way, I also have a high degree of confidence that the "win now" contingent prefers Stuckey over any undervalued asset with some upside.

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