Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[machu46]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12031554/lance-stephenson-newly-signed-free-agents-move-nba?ex_cid=InsiderTwitter_elhassan_tradefive2014freeagents
2014 free agents on the move
Stephenson, Monroe among five newly signed players that need to be traded

I'm curious to see how he develops, but I don't want to be the team that gives up assets for McDaniels.

I wouldn't give up assets or give him a big contract in the off-season, but that's pretty much only because he plays a position where we don't have an immediate need.

I have no idea why Philly would just dump him for some minimal assets or not re-sign him when they have so much cap room though. You just spent a high 2nd round pick on the guy and it looks like you've found a gem, yet you're already looking to sell him off for scraps just to make your team even worse?

Yeah, I imagine they would only be trading him if they were getting a good asset in return. If they got a 1st round pick for a guy that they literally JUST drafted in the 2nd round, I think they'd jump on it, and I think they could get that from a contending team that could use a cheap wing.

A team that should REALLY be trying to get him would be the Clippers, but I'm not sure they have anything they can offer that Philly would like.

I highly doubt that Philly is openly TRYING to trade guys like him and MCW, but they'll float their names out there and see if they get anyone to offer something that's too good to turn down.

[Dimitraa]

exactly... or charlotte for that matter. the issue has been his play and whether you want it or not. off the court issues haven't been a problem since literally before he set foot in the nba. volatile and competitive? yes. cancerous? I don't see that.

Indiana wants also a first round pick back.Without it no deal.Also a team like Charlotte who has trouble attracting free agents to try to unload him in just 3 months should be a huge red flag.
I rather we bring coachable young guys even if they are not as sexy names as Lance than potentially lockeroom disasters.Besides you just know if Stephenson starts playing better as soon as his contract ends he will just bolt for Brooklyn.Definitely not a part of a potential core which should be our goal right now.Get prospects and picks to form a core to stay in Milwaukee.Not mercenaries egoistic players who will try to jump to the bigger markets.

understand I am not advocating giving up any young asset for him... we would give back matching "dead" money. this is a flyer on a guy, who if he worked, could be a huge asset. I like the idea of seeing if kidd could maintain him and finding out FOR OURSELVES what his issues might be. I just don't see the risk. if he sucks we send him home and try to find another team to assume his deal and I think there would be.

the idea of upsetting team chemistry concerns me but this is a risk/reward situation. hes young, talented, and I don't want to be sitting here 2 or 3 years from now talking about another Zach Randolph that could have been here but we passed because he didn't go to church enough

Ah ok I understand what you mean.However I would prefer if Kidd instead of trying to tame Lance keep the lockeroom peaceful and turn him into a positive asset (with potentially dangerous results if he fails)to focus all his energy into our young guys .
Also the fact that Charlotte seems to give up on him so soon and that Brooklyn before aggreeing to trade is still looking for info on him is such warning bad signs and Bucks are in not the position right now to make such moves.In my opinion we should much more focus on getting more young prospects and pieces for our core rather than start this asset managing by taking other franchises rejets.

[Badgerlander]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--h ... 02170.html

Indiana hasn't ruled out the possibility of bringing back Stephenson, but appears unwilling to seriously engage the Hornets without the inclusion of a first-round pick in a potential deal, sources told Yahoo Sports.

So far, Charlotte has shown no inclination to package a future draft pick to move Stephenson, league executives told Yahoo Sports.

When the Hornets first proposed a deal to reunite Stephenson with Indiana, the Pacers suggested the discussion start with two future first-round picks, league sources said. Make no mistake: The Pacers understand they can negotiate from a position of strength.

The Nets have talked with Charlotte on the possibility of a deal for Stephenson, a Brooklyn native, and have been scouring the league for intel on Stephenson, sources told Yahoo. Charlotte has had a willingness to consider taking center Brook Lopez, whom they nearly signed to an offer sheet in 2012, in a trade, league sources said. The two teams have exchanged ideas, but Brooklyn has been mostly spending time trying to investigate the risks and rewards of possible scenarios with Stephenson.

Charlotte has been open to discussing the Nets' big-salary stars as part of a broader Stephenson package, including Lopez and Joe Johnson, sources said. The combination of a third year on Deron Williams' deal – as well as the emergence of Walker as the franchise's point guard – leaves Charlotte uninterested in acquiring Williams, league sources said.

[BMatt07]

The individuals advocating for a Stephenson trade are probably the same kids that used to eat glue-sticks in elementary school.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Indiana demanding picks to take him back after just offering him 5/44 without them is epic

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

The individuals advocating for a Stephenson trade are probably the same kids that used to eat glue-sticks in elementary school.

no.... were the kids who got bored playing dungeons and dragons and never really got the point of promise rings

[Dimitraa]

Indiana was asking for TWO picks? LMAO
Ok if Charlotte gives us theirpick and Biyombo or Vonleh Im all for taking Lance.

[machu46]

The individuals advocating for a Stephenson trade are probably the same kids that used to eat glue-sticks in elementary school.

I resent that. I liked play-dough.

[Matches Malone]

Wow...if Charlotte is desperate enough to give up picks or possibly a young prospect like Vonleh, then I would take the cancer they call Stephenson.

[M-C-G]

Yeah, still not interested in him, but if they are parting with assets to unload him, things get interesting.

Probably still wouldn't do this, but a Zeller/Lance for Mayo/Dudley or Ersan/Dudley starts to get interesting.

[Lippo]

Yeah, still not interested in him, but if they are parting with assets to unload him, things get interesting.

Probably still wouldn't do this, but a Zeller/Lance for Mayo/Dudley or Ersan/Dudley starts to get interesting.

vonleh/lance/2nd for dudley/ersan
take it or leave it

[Giannis Parker]

Yeah, still not interested in him, but if they are parting with assets to unload him, things get interesting.

Probably still wouldn't do this, but a Zeller/Lance for Mayo/Dudley or Ersan/Dudley starts to get interesting.

vonleh/lance/2nd for dudley/ersan
take it or leave it

I think all of us take that, heck, lets just find a 3rd team then to take Lance, even if it is for a 2nd round pick lmfao.

Time to wake up though, we are not getting a player of Lance's caliber for backups, let alone getting vonleh and a 2nd rounder as well lol.

I would happily give up Henson, Ersan, Dudley, and Wolters for Lance, Vonleh, any needed filler, and then turn and trade Lance to the Pacers for a 2nd round pick or whatever they give up.

[Dimitraa]

Yeah, still not interested in him, but if they are parting with assets to unload him, things get interesting.

Probably still wouldn't do this, but a Zeller/Lance for Mayo/Dudley or Ersan/Dudley starts to get interesting.

vonleh/lance/2nd for dudley/ersan
take it or leave it

I think all of us take that, heck, lets just find a 3rd team then to take Lance, even if it is for a 2nd round pick lmfao.

Time to wake up though, we are not getting a player of Lance's caliber for backups, let alone getting vonleh and a 2nd rounder as well lol.

I would happily give up Henson, Ersan, Dudley, and Wolters for Lance, Vonleh, any needed filler, and then turn and trade Lance to the Pacers for a 2nd round pick or whatever they give up.

Pacers ask two firsts.Charlotte is considering taking one of the worst contracts in the league in JJ or an injured Lopez to get rid of Lance.
I'm not even giving up on Henson for Lance.Let Charlotte pick among our veterans if they want.Seems to be the best deal out there for them.

[M-C-G]

For the McDaniels fans out there, sell me on him.

I see decent size. Decent efficiency. Ok but not good 3PT%. Ok but not good FT%. Ok but not good RB. Ok but not good AST.

What's the scouting report on this guy that has you all drooling? I haven't really seen him play, but surprised that a guy that was barely drafted has so many interested.

[Giannis Parker]

vonleh/lance/2nd for dudley/ersan
take it or leave it

I think all of us take that, heck, lets just find a 3rd team then to take Lance, even if it is for a 2nd round pick lmfao.

Time to wake up though, we are not getting a player of Lance's caliber for backups, let alone getting vonleh and a 2nd rounder as well lol.

I would happily give up Henson, Ersan, Dudley, and Wolters for Lance, Vonleh, any needed filler, and then turn and trade Lance to the Pacers for a 2nd round pick or whatever they give up.

Pacers ask two firsts.Charlotte is considering taking one of the worst contracts in the league in JJ or an injured Lopez to get rid of Lance.
I'm not even giving up on Henson for Lance.Let Charlotte pick among our veterans if they want.Seems to be the best deal out there for them.

But I am not giving up on Henson for Lance, I am giving up on Henson for Vonleh, a higher upside prospect that fits the team much better moving forward with his shooting ability. As I said at the end, move Lance for a 2nd round pick for all I care, if we have the opportunity to trade garbage for a player with upside like Vonleh, we make that move.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

no young assets of any kind

lance/filler for mayo/Dudley is what im offering. that's assuming there isn't something known around the league that we haven't heard yet. if its just the crap about him being hard to work with then whatever. I take the shot.

[machu46]

For the McDaniels fans out there, sell me on him.

I see decent size. Decent efficiency. Ok but not good 3PT%. Ok but not good FT%. Ok but not good RB. Ok but not good AST.

What's the scouting report on this guy that has you all drooling? I haven't really seen him play, but surprised that a guy that was barely drafted has so many interested.

All I really see is athleticism and defensive potential.

[Dcebucks11]

id rather see what the bucks have in Inglis than trade for mcdaniels..

[Ron Swanson]

id rather see what the bucks have in Inglis than trade for mcdaniels..

This. Inglis is 2 years younger and projects as the same kind of player that you'd get in McDaniels (athletic wing who can defend), all while having better size (6'8 vs. 6'6).

[MilHammer]

Obviously havent been apart of an NBA locker room, but chemistry seems like such a fragile thing. We have so much going for us, in two high character guys who genuinely seem to like our organization and want to stay with us. People complain about Knight being a blackhole, at least the kid wants to be a good teammate...he just cant sometimes. However, there is a reason Lance has been bounced around the league and is getting ousted from his new team after 3 months. There is a reason why almost noo teams are biting on him; if he didnt have the character issues he has then half the league would be interested in someone with his talent/potential.

Larry Bird couldnt get through to him and neither could Jordan apparently. Dont buy that BS that Kidd could magically fix him either. I'm sure in the next couple years we can find another core piece that is better and wont have any baggage. Biting on a veteran headcase to win now sounds like a Kohl era move.

Also, the domestic abuse stuff is pretty much proven and I have no idea why some people here are trying to defend him.

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