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DanoMac · Post #461 » by **DanoMac** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:31 am

Prince12 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Spurs go from being a serious option for Chris Paul to Rudy Gay coming off a torn Achilles. Those unlucky bastards with still win 60 games though.

And Rudy will probably be an unselfish, efficient 18ppg player. We know that's how this will shake out.

Yep. It's inevitable. I think Pop could get Monta Ellis to buy in at this point. Haha, just kidding.

Prince12 · Post #462 » by **Prince12** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:31 am

DanoMac wrote:VC to Sacramento. WTF is he doing? I'm sure he's making more than a true contendor could have given him ($8M), but don't you have enough in the bank at this point to take a discount and try and get a ring?

It's shocking yes but kind of refreshing to see an old dude go **** it I'm taking the money.

blazza18 · Post #463 » by **blazza18** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:32 am

JimmyTheKid wrote:One of my favorite things about this forum is how "stupid" the Bucks would be to entertain the idea of "stupid player x" only to watch GSW and SA sign Javale McGee and Rudy Gay respectfully.

You're right! Definitely can't see no difference between us and those two franchises.

ackypoo · Post #464 » by **ackypoo** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:35 am

Prince12 wrote:
DanoMac wrote:VC to Sacramento. WTF is he doing? I'm sure he's making more than a true contendor could have given him ($8M), but don't you have enough in the bank at this point to take a discount and try and get a ring?

It's shocking yes but kind of refreshing to see an old dude go **** it I'm taking the money.

or they said theres a job for him somewhere in the org after this year. announcer, assistant coach, whatever.

JimmyTheKid · Post #465 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:47 am

blazza18 wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:One of my favorite things about this forum is how "stupid" the Bucks would be to entertain the idea of "stupid player x" only to watch GSW and SA sign Javale McGee and Rudy Gay respectfully.

You're right! Definitely can't see no difference between us and those two franchises.

It's never about that though. It's ALWAYS about the player. Post after post after post after post. "Only the Bucks would..."
Until, of course, a respected franchise signs the guy. Then... crickets.

You just never know how a guy will respond to a new team, coach, teammates, situation. (See Beasley, Mike)

lvckv · Post #466 » by **lvckv** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:50 am

Man, do the Kings know they have their own pick next year?

blazza18 · Post #467 » by **blazza18** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:51 am

Good franchises with great cultures can take short term risks on risky guys while bad franchises get condemned. First I''m hearing of this.

Matches Malone · Post #468 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:54 am

lvckv wrote:Man, do the Kings know they have their own pick next year?

I was going to say the same thing. They could have had a nice little tank/developing team with some good young prospects. Adding Hill, Carter and Randolph won't make them playoff bound, but maybe pushes them out of the top 5-8 in the lottery.

What it should have been:
Fox
Hield
Jackson
Labissiere
Cauley-Stein

What it likely will be:
Hill
Hield
Carter
Randolph
Cauley-Stein

Prince12 · Post #469 » by **Prince12** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:01 am

Carter is going to start at 40+? Don't think so.

Baddy Chuck · Post #470 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:03 am

blazza18 wrote:Good franchises with great cultures can take short term risks on risky guys while bad franchises get condemned. First I''m hearing of this.

Nah, Stephen Jackson on the Spurs is the same as Stephen Jackson on the Bucks. Monta Ellis on the Bucks is the same as Monta Ellis on the Mavs. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Prince12 · Post #471 » by **Prince12** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:08 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Good franchises with great cultures can take short term risks on risky guys while bad franchises get condemned. First I''m hearing of this.

Nah, Stephen Jackson on the Spurs is the same as Stephen Jackson on the Bucks. Monta Ellis on the Bucks is the same as Monta Ellis on the Mavs. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Bad franchises like the bucks give them longer deals with no carrot of success. That's the difference.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #472 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:10 am

ackypoo wrote:
Prince12 wrote:
DanoMac wrote:VC to Sacramento. WTF is he doing? I'm sure he's making more than a true contendor could have given him ($8M), but don't you have enough in the bank at this point to take a discount and try and get a ring?

It's shocking yes but kind of refreshing to see an old dude go **** it I'm taking the money.

or they said theres a job for him somewhere in the org after this year. announcer, assistant coach, whatever.

Come on now Vince is never going to stop playing.

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Baddy Chuck · Post #473 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:10 am

Prince12 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Good franchises with great cultures can take short term risks on risky guys while bad franchises get condemned. First I''m hearing of this.

Nah, Stephen Jackson on the Spurs is the same as Stephen Jackson on the Bucks. Monta Ellis on the Bucks is the same as Monta Ellis on the Mavs. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Bad franchises like the bucks give them longer deals with no carrot of success. That's the difference.

The biggest difference is usually good franchises with good coaching and good personnel can reel in a players talents and use them to the best ability to help a team.

The Milwaukee **** Bucks have a hard time doing that with their All-NBA talent.

BroncoBuck · Post #474 » by **BroncoBuck** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:10 am

The three vets the Kings signed are all hard working guys you want to have around your youngsters. I really like the moves Vlade is making.

Plossum · Post #475 » by **Plossum** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:10 am

And I think we're overrating McGee's stay at the Warriors. It seems because he wasn't a complete moron on the court like with other teams that he's somehow morphed into a good player. He played 9 mins a game and was a positive for them without being an integral piece.

BroncoBuck · Post #476 » by **BroncoBuck** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:12 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Good franchises with great cultures can take short term risks on risky guys while bad franchises get condemned. First I''m hearing of this.

Nah, Stephen Jackson on the Spurs is the same as Stephen Jackson on the Bucks. Monta Ellis on the Bucks is the same as Monta Ellis on the Mavs. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Stephen Jackson on the Spurs the first go around was a hell of a player. Tim Duncan said he is his favorite teammate of all-time. His second go around didn't work as well, but at that point he was just old and washed up.

blazza18 · Post #477 » by **blazza18** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:13 am

Plossum wrote:And I think we're overrating McGee's stay at the Warriors. It seems because he wasn't a complete moron on the court like with other teams that he's somehow morphed into a good player. He played 9 mins a game and was a positive for them without being an integral piece.

And the Warriors gave him a non guaranteed training camp tryout. Big difference to paying him $10 million or something.

Prince12 · Post #478 » by **Prince12** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:14 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Prince12 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Nah, Stephen Jackson on the Spurs is the same as Stephen Jackson on the Bucks. Monta Ellis on the Bucks is the same as Monta Ellis on the Mavs. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Bad franchises like the bucks give them longer deals with no carrot of success. That's the difference.

The biggest difference is usually good franchises with good coaching and good personnel can reel in a players talents and use them to the best ability to help a team.

The Milwaukee **** Bucks have a hard time doing that with their All-NBA talent.

Yeah because they sign them mid year or to bargain 1/2 year deals. That my point, of Milwaukee signs jax to a 3/30 deal or whatever the **** it was he knows we will suck and he'll just cash in. Those dudes who could come good would only come to us for way over what they are worth which is exactly why we should stay the hell away from them.

Matches Malone · Post #479 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:23 am

Prince12 wrote:Carter is going to start at 40+? Don't think so.

Because you say so?

Carter started for a playoff team in the Grizzlies just last season. Not entirely out of the realm of possibility, especially with Joerger coaching, who is very familiar with Carter and Randolph from his Memphis days.

Prince12 · Post #480 » by **Prince12** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:25 am

Matches Malone wrote:
Prince12 wrote:Carter is going to start at 40+? Don't think so.

Because you say so?

Carter started for a playoff team in the Grizzlies just last season. Not entirely out of the realm of possibility of it happening, especially with Joerger coaching, who is very familiar with Carter and Randolph from his Memphis days.

No, just think they would rather play younger talent. I believe VC will play a minimal bench role, maybe 15 minutes a night and will be transitioning into a coaching/mentoring role with a younger squad. I think it was a smart signing by the kings but I don't at all think it was to be a starter or major minutes player.