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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#461 » by crowhead76 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:42 pm

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I get what you’re saying but I have hard time agreeing only for the simple fact there arguably wasn’t a free agent available this off-season that can impact a NBA game the same way Brook Lopez can. I realize he is super matchup dependent when the playoffs roll around but Giannis credits a lot of his defensive freedom around the fact Brook is an anchor behind him. I just don’t see how anyone available would have the type of impact you’re implying. In theory, what you’re saying sounds great but in reality it just isn’t all that realistic imo. Maybe I’m wrong, but Bobby Portis falls in the same category and is less valuable to the roster than Brook so we should be looking to move Bobby and Graysons expiring to find the player you’re implying we could sign. That to me seems more realistic..




Something else to add to this, I know AG wants to go to a more aggressive switching defensive scheme, but not having a big body rim protecting center did not have good results for Toronto which is why they traded for Poetlt last year.


Their defense was good, but they needed a room runner on offense.


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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#462 » by trwi7 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:43 pm

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Wonka wrote:Every off-season I’m underwhelmed by Horst. So far we’ve been realistically linked to…Terrence Davis? While seemingly every other team is making shrewd moves.


We have no money. And getting guys to come to Milwaukee, even with Giannis, is a heavy lift.


We have no money and no more assets because...

*Hint: Larry Harris didn't spend them all.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#463 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:43 pm

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So your idea is to replace Brook & Crowder by spending roughly 5-6 million each on two guys? Yea I'd rather have Brook & Jae


Wood and Micic would offer so much more.


Why not just go all in, and let Jabari anchor the D this year.


Keep pretending like the defense was anchored in the playoffs the last 2 years. Actually, anchored is an apt description. It's time to pull the anchor and get guys that can move.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#464 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:44 pm

msiris wrote:The longer this out drags out worries me. I assume the Bucks have offer out there.


every other team is moving deck chairs around it feels like to me
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#465 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:44 pm

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Something else to add to this, I know AG wants to go to a more aggressive switching defensive scheme, but not having a big body rim protecting center did not have good results for Toronto which is why they traded for Poetlt last year.


Their defense was good, but they needed a room runner on offense.


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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#466 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:47 pm

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So your idea is to replace Brook & Crowder by spending roughly 5-6 million each on two guys? Yea I'd rather have Brook & Jae


Wood and Micic would offer so much more.


Hard pass on Wood & hasn't Micic said previously he wants Full MLE money?


He's backed off those demands.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#467 » by All The Bucks » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:48 pm

Bad teams with cap room and no tax penalties are letting marginal players walk and people here are complaining because the Bucks aren't showing interest in marginal players who bad teams are saying goodbye to. Make it make sense
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#468 » by emunney » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:48 pm

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Wonka wrote:Every off-season I’m underwhelmed by Horst. So far we’ve been realistically linked to…Terrence Davis? While seemingly every other team is making shrewd moves.


We have no money. And getting guys to come to Milwaukee, even with Giannis, is a heavy lift.


We have no money and no more assets because...

*Hint: Larry Harris didn't spend them all.


Come on. Good players aren't cheap. It is not a bad thing that we're capped out from paying talent.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#469 » by MVP2110 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:49 pm

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Wood and Micic would offer so much more.


Hard pass on Wood & hasn't Micic said previously he wants Full MLE money?


He's backed off those demands.


Have a link to that? I guess I'll wait and see what he comes over for before I assume Horst could just get him for that. Which tbh isn't much more than he TPMLE
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#470 » by Daver » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:50 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:Realistically if we bring Brook back it probably prevents us from the TPMLE(assuming we also bring Jae back). But unless you think the player we could get for the TPMLE is going to be better then Brook then I'm not sure you can afford to pass on bringing him back.


I don’t see any reason that we couldn’t structure Khris and Brooks deal so that we get the TPMLE this year, and still be able to bring Jae back. Miami might be able to offer Jae more though, not sure.


If Khris is starting at 31.5 I think it's unlikely we'd both have Brook starting at 18 or less & have Crowder starting at 4 or less, we would need those both to happen to open up the TPMLE

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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#471 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:51 pm

i love brook and def would miss him in the reg season but i cant help feel the notion that with bud gone hes going to lose ALOT of his value. his age is a factor too. it has to be. we hit maybe one of the biggest home runs the franchise ever made by bringing him in when we did for the money we did but i cant help but think wed be better with a younger, smaller, faster approach moving forward under griffin.

i also think its something to think about that the let it fly aspect as it relates to brook he often took some of the worst shots early in the clock of anybody on the team. brook as much as weve loved him is a slow moving tempo killing ball stopper extraordinaire offensively. replacing him with simply a switch everything big body in the mold of tucker who wants to pass the minute it hits his fingers whether he can shoot all that well or not may be advantageous too. i want a defensive model that showed up during our title and i want to watch a more unselfish team this year
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

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Post#473 » by Profound23 » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:53 pm

If you guys really feel we need a PG then Russell Westbrook is available. 8-)
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#474 » by emunney » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:53 pm

I for one am glad we didn't do the 6:01 Jingles thing this year.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#475 » by raferfenix » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:56 pm

If Brook walks I’ll try to hope for the best with a bigger change of approach but it’s hard for me to see addition by subtraction playing out with him.

If there were some bold move or surprisingly savvy signing in tandem then maybe.

But just going with Bobby and Crowder and some dude we get off the street...And we still have holes in the backcourt to fill with very limited avenues to do it.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#476 » by emunney » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:56 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i love brook and def would miss him in the reg season but i cant help feel the notion that with bud gone hes going to lose ALOT of his value. his age is a factor too. it has to be. we hit maybe one of the biggest home runs the franchise ever made by bringing him in when we did for the money we did but i cant help but think wed be better with a younger, smaller, faster approach moving forward under griffin.

i also think its something to think about that the let it fly aspect as it relates to brook he often took some of the worst shots early in the clock of anybody on the team. replacing him with simply a switch everything big body in the mold of tucker who wants to pass the minute it hits his fingers whether he can shoot all that well or not may be advantageous too. i want a defensive model that showed up during our title and i want to watch a more unselfish team this year


I am with you for the most part on this. If it's true though that the backup plan is Wood, that feels more like a step backward than a clever lateral repositioning.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#477 » by Bucknado » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:58 pm

We need this Brook shoe to drop. Everyone is getting signed while we’re sitting on our dicks.
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Post#478 » by buckboy » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:58 pm

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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#479 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Jul 1, 2023 2:59 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:i love brook and def would miss him in the reg season but i cant help feel the notion that with bud gone hes going to lose ALOT of his value. his age is a factor too. it has to be. we hit maybe one of the biggest home runs the franchise ever made by bringing him in when we did for the money we did but i cant help but think wed be better with a younger, smaller, faster approach moving forward under griffin.

i also think its something to think about that the let it fly aspect as it relates to brook he often took some of the worst shots early in the clock of anybody on the team. replacing him with simply a switch everything big body in the mold of tucker who wants to pass the minute it hits his fingers whether he can shoot all that well or not may be advantageous too. i want a defensive model that showed up during our title and i want to watch a more unselfish team this year


I am with you for the most part on this. If it's true though that the backup plan is Wood, that feels more like a step backward than a clever lateral repositioning.


yeah wood im gonna be like excited but in the way id be when i was young and drunk with my friends playing chicken with trains
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Middleton Back - 3/$102mm 

Post#480 » by All The Bucks » Sat Jul 1, 2023 3:00 pm

I'll believe Brook is leaving when I see it. That said, the new schemes being implemented on both offense and defense don't require a player like the Budenholzer Brook Lopez. At the same time, there's always a use for rim protection and there's still a very effective low post scorer in that big oaf. Basically what I'm saying is there are many ways to make use of a player with his skillset whilst simultaneously recognizing that under the new regime he's not irreplaceable.

Lopez being brought back would probably be more about not losing an asset for nothing, than him being a foundational piece the way he was under Bud.
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