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Post#461 » by Ron Swanson » Thu May 23, 2024 2:31 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:I haven't really considered him in the early-2nd, but Jaxson Robinson is an intriguing dude. Huge wingspan (6'11.25) SG that should translate defensively (0.7 blocks per-40). Only a 34% college 3PT shooter, but an 84% guy from the line with good-looking mechanics, so you can feel confident in some natural shooting progression/development. Isaiah Joe vibes.



Didn't you just this week have a post calling wingspan overrated for a guard, and now you're leading with it? :lol:


It is. That's not the same thing as saying "it doesn't matter at all".
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Post#462 » by Ron Swanson » Thu May 23, 2024 2:46 pm

Scheierman getting talked up as a 1st round guy is pretty interesting based on the combine stuff. Think a lot of teams are talking themselves into him being the next Jaime Jacquez, even though he's a way better shooter and a less fluid athlete. I'm wondering if he's a guy Horst is actually considering at 23. Kinda like da Silva, he's a savvy help defender, but I don't know who he guards in the NBA.
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Post#463 » by SupremeHustle » Thu May 23, 2024 4:40 pm

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This made me wonder how many big guys in the league might try Ozempic. I wonder if Eddy Curry would have been great if he had it.
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Post#464 » by emunney » Thu May 23, 2024 5:19 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Scheierman getting talked up as a 1st round guy is pretty interesting based on the combine stuff. Think a lot of teams are talking themselves into him being the next Jaime Jacquez, even though he's a way better shooter and a less fluid athlete. I'm wondering if he's a guy Horst is actually considering at 23. Kinda like da Silva, he's a savvy help defender, but I don't know who he guards in the NBA.


I'm also not sure who he defends, but also like you, I think his court vision is a good omen for his team defense. I think his passing creativity sets him apart from guys like Austin Reaves, who's probably the obvious comp, but who dominated the ball as a 5th year senior at OU. Scheierman is much more of a ball movement guy who's also a really good PnR player.
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Post#465 » by buckboy » Thu May 23, 2024 5:54 pm

Love Scheierman
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Post#466 » by jakecronus8 » Thu May 23, 2024 5:55 pm

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This made me wonder how many big guys in the league might try Ozempic. I wonder if Eddy Curry would have been great if he had it.

Ozempic cant make someone GAF.
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Post#467 » by Frank Nova » Thu May 23, 2024 6:12 pm

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This made me wonder how many big guys in the league might try Ozempic. I wonder if Eddy Curry would have been great if he had it.

Ozempic cant make someone GAF.


Burns made it a point to let everyone know he didn’t lose the weight by taking Ozempic. Not sure if it was true or preemptive damage control but still. I like Burns, kids got talent. If he’s slimmed down and more mobile I think he could be a decent dart throw in the 2nd round.
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Post#468 » by SupremeHustle » Thu May 23, 2024 6:14 pm

Just looked at Baylor Scheierman highlights and call me Marvin because I don't even have an opinion. Can't get a good read on him from the clips but I will say if he's the best prospect for us in the first round, trade that pick.
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Post#469 » by RogerMurdock » Thu May 23, 2024 6:27 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:call me Marvin because I don't even have an opinion.


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Post#470 » by Fotis St » Fri May 24, 2024 11:38 am

If I am Giannis and want to do a badass thug life move ... I am buying a 2nd , drafting Bronny and get him his 1st ring as a rookie. Return the "favour" for the Kostas Lakers Ring.
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Post#471 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri May 24, 2024 11:52 am

Kelel Ware is the next Myles Turner. Both the good and bad. Remember the pre draft issues with Turner? I think Ware is going to slide, he might be there at 33.
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Post#472 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri May 24, 2024 12:09 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:Kelel Ware is the next Myles Turner. Both the good and bad. Remember the pre draft issues with Turner? I think Ware is going to slide, he might be there at 33.

I mean weren't the predraft issues with Turner having nothing do to with his effort and maturity and more to do with the fact that he couldn't walk correctly? I could get behind Ware but if he drops that far that sounds like some Christian Wood **** and less to do with any basketball reasons.
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Post#473 » by Frank Nova » Fri May 24, 2024 12:50 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Kelel Ware is the next Myles Turner. Both the good and bad. Remember the pre draft issues with Turner? I think Ware is going to slide, he might be there at 33.

I mean weren't the predraft issues with Turner having nothing do to with his effort and maturity and more to do with the fact that he couldn't walk correctly? I could get behind Ware but if he drops that far that sounds like some Christian Wood **** and less to do with any basketball reasons.


Was Christian Wood the one who told the story about his girlfriend broke up with him on draft night because he didn’t get drafted?
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Post#474 » by emunney » Fri May 24, 2024 1:55 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:Kelel Ware is the next Myles Turner. Both the good and bad. Remember the pre draft issues with Turner? I think Ware is going to slide, he might be there at 33.


Turner's gait was his red flag. Weak hips and looked like his knees were going to buckle inward at any moment.
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Post#475 » by emunney » Fri May 24, 2024 1:57 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Kelel Ware is the next Myles Turner. Both the good and bad. Remember the pre draft issues with Turner? I think Ware is going to slide, he might be there at 33.

I mean weren't the predraft issues with Turner having nothing do to with his effort and maturity and more to do with the fact that he couldn't walk correctly? I could get behind Ware but if he drops that far that sounds like some Christian Wood **** and less to do with any basketball reasons.


For me, I was skeptical of Wood for basketball reasons. In all the years I've been amateur evaluating amateur prospects, I've never seen a more amateur passer than Christian Wood at UNLV.
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Post#476 » by machu46 » Fri May 24, 2024 6:04 pm

ESPN refreshed their top 100 big board. Some notable movers (they only listed the movement in the :

Risers:

Reed Sheppard: 7-->4 - not a huge jump by any means but they noted that several teams have him #1 in their draft models due to his outrageous metrics.

Tidjane Salaun: 15-->10
Devin Carter: 17-->13
Jared McCain: 19-->15
Johnny Furphy: 28-->18
Kyshawn George: 24-->19
Baylor Scheierman: 38-->26
AJ Johnson: 60-->35
Adem Bona: 50-->40
Jonathan Mogbo: 70-->42
Bronny James: 98-->44
Oso Ighodaro: 66-->57
Michael Ajayi: 99-->75

Fallers:
Isaiah Collier: 11-->21
Kyle Filipowski: 16-->20
Tyler Smith: 21-->27
Kevin McCullar: 22-->30
Juan Nunez: 26-->37
Harrison Ingram: 34-->43
Peyton Sandfort: 35-->46
Dillon Jones: 36-->47
Iman Almansa: 37-->48
Melvin Ajinca: 42-->49
Trevon Brazile: 43-->67
Ugonna Onyenso: 47-->68
Jaxson Robinson: 55-->66
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Post#477 » by jakecronus8 » Fri May 24, 2024 6:08 pm

Bronny is gonna go way higher than people believe. Still convinced theres zero chance he's not teammates with Daddy next year. Top 20 wont surprise me. You either get Lebron or hold him hostage for a much better asset.
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Post#478 » by Ron Swanson » Fri May 24, 2024 6:34 pm

Sheppard is such a weird prospect. You watch the tape/highlights, juxtapose that with the weak top-end talent in this class, and go "yeah, why not draft him in the Top-5?" But then you look at his actual per-minute production outside of the gawdy deflection/stocks numbers (which is also weird cuz he has t-rex arms), and it's pretty underwhelming. You kinda have to convince yourself that he's, idk, more like Fat Lever or Derrick White, and less like Cole Anthony. I guess if he's like the 6'3 combo guard version of Klay Thompson, you absolutely take that all day in this draft. I just think his JAG potential is pretty damn high.
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Post#479 » by machu46 » Fri May 24, 2024 7:22 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Sheppard is such a weird prospect. You watch the tape/highlights, juxtapose that with the weak top-end talent in this class, and go "yeah, why not draft him in the Top-5?" But then you look at his actual per-minute production outside of the gawdy deflection/stocks numbers (which is also weird cuz he has t-rex arms), and it's pretty underwhelming. You kinda have to convince yourself that he's, idk, more like Fat Lever or Derrick White, and less like Cole Anthony. I guess if he's like the 6'3 combo guard version of Klay Thompson, you absolutely take that all day in this draft. I just think his JAG potential is pretty damn high.


I wouldn't really say 17/6/6 per 40 on 70% TS% and an 11.4 BPM is underwhelming. Not surprised at all that metrics-type systems would be saying he's the #1 player in the class. I think the numbers are much more impressive than the film personally but his film is pretty good relative to this class too. I think the size is a major question for him though; he's a defensive playmaker but not really a POA guy and might not be big enough to not be a POA guy. And offensively, it's not super clear if he can be your lead ball handler and at that size, fit becomes much tougher if he can't be the ball handler (though there are at least a lot more oversized ball handlers today than there used to be).
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Post#480 » by Matches Malone » Sat May 25, 2024 4:11 am

I really like Jaylon Tyson's game. The way he navigates open space is impressive. Not super quick but he's skilled as hell.
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