The Official Playoffs Thread

europa · Post #461 » by **europa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:57 am

LukePliska wrote:
europa wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Then again, if on June 25th we select Chase Budinger with the 10th pick......well, let's just say maybe it will be better of the board software overloads again and shuts down for the night.

I'll be drinking heavily if they draft Budinger. Good thing I don't see that happening. I think they go PG if they don't land one of the top players in the draft.

For some reason I think we are going to go after Ty Lawson... Which I guess I wouldn't be too upset about.

Remember the old Madonna song "Holiday?"

There you go.

Newz · Post #462 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:57 am

europa wrote:Mavs did a great job of holding Parker under 30 in the first half.

Post #463 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:57 am

Actually I like Budinger a lot better than I did Alexander. I think Chase will be a great value pick somewhere in the 13-18 range.

aboveAverage · Post #464 » by **aboveAverage** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:58 am

Part of me wants Hammond to turn this thing around, but part of me wants him to keep screwing up so he can lose Europa's support and Europa can come over to the dark side. Either one would make me happy

Newz · Post #465 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:59 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
LukePliska wrote:I like David Lee, but I sure as hell wouldn't give him 10m a year.

He won't get $10mm a year. I do not think he's got any leverage in this economy. And most NBA teams know he's a great garbageman but at most a 5-year/$40mm type guy like what Nocioni got during a better economy two years ago. More likely he get an Anderson Varajao 3-year/$22mm type deal.

We'd basically be trading Redd's shooting and his $17m salary for Crawful's $9mm and Lee's $8mm a year. It would be a wash salary wise. But I agree you have to like David Lee. And some people do not. We really don't know who will "thrive" next to Bogut.

I'd give Lee around 7 million, I think that's pretty fair for him and would be a decent value if he continue to put up 10/10 type numbers and bust his ass every time he plays. Lee and Bogut would be a weird combination together since I kind of think Lee is just a poor man's Bogut.

I am also a big fan of 'Crawful'... I might want to trade for him now just so I can bring Crawful signs to the games.

europa · Post #466 » by **europa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:00 am

aboveAverage wrote:Part of me wants Hammond to turn this thing around, but part of me wants him to keep screwing up so he can lose Europa's support and Europa can come over to the dark side. Either one would make me happy

You'll be happy if the Bucks don't do well? Really?

Newz · Post #467 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:00 am

Lol at Barkley ripping on Kenny.

europa · Post #468 » by **europa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:01 am

LukePliska wrote:Lol at Barkley ripping on Kenny.

These guys are great. And Ernie Johnson is the perfect host/straight man.

Newz · Post #469 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:02 am

I think that the Spurs need to play Gooden 30+ minutes a game. He isn't the best defender, but he is a good rebounder and they badly need his scoring with Manu out.

Newz · Post #470 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:10 am

Barkley on the Cavs/Lakers games coming up - "Those will be two mercy kills."

Ernie - "... But watch anyways!"

:lol:

mbucks22 · Post #471 » by **mbucks22** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:20 am

Leave it to someone on this board to bring up Michael Redd in a game between the Bulls and Celtics. One of the many reasons I don't spend much time on the Bucks board anymore.

europa · Post #472 » by **europa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:23 am

Bowen getting his ass chewed out by Pop.

My Spurs trade idea is gaining momentum.

Newz · Post #473 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:25 am

europa wrote:Bowen getting his ass chewed out by Pop.

My Spurs trade idea is gaining momentum.

Newz · Post #474 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:28 am

No disrespect to Chris Paul, but come playoff time Tony Parker is the best PG in the NBA... This guy is just absolutely ridiculous every single time the playoffs start, he abuses everyone that he plays against.

Ayt · Post #475 » by **Ayt** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:45 pm

xTitan wrote:So he missed on his first pick and hit a home run with his second pick, he is a combo of Wolf/Thompson....that is what the good ones do.

I love the guy, but LRMAM is no homerun at this point. He was a very good pick for the slot, but he doesn't look like anything more than a very solid role player going forward. He's going to have to add higher caliber players than Luc in the draft if we are going anywhere.

Newz · Post #476 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:36 pm

I consider LRMAM to be a 'home run' in the second round. I think he's the best defender we have had on the Bucks in a long, long time. Any time you can get a guy in the second round that can guard four positions and be considered for the NBA all-defensive team I think that is a great selection for the second round.

Every team that wants to compete for a championship needs a guy like Luc.

Ayt · Post #477 » by **Ayt** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:07 pm

LukePliska wrote:I consider LRMAM to be a 'home run' in the second round. I think he's the best defender we have had on the Bucks in a long, long time. Any time you can get a guy in the second round that can guard four positions and be considered for the NBA all-defensive team I think that is a great selection for the second round.

Every team that wants to compete for a championship needs a guy like Luc.

Right, but he still needs to add top notch talent. Adding excellent role players like Luc every year would be awesome, but we really aren't going anywhere if he can't add some top talent.

Hitting on very good role players doesn't make up for completely whiffing in the lottery, which is what I am mainly arguing against. I certainly don't want a repeat of the 2008 draft in 2009 or 2010. The post from xTitan that I quoted seemed to imply that would be okay, and I've seen other posts implying the same thing.

Newz · Post #478 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:08 pm

Ayt wrote:
LukePliska wrote:I consider LRMAM to be a 'home run' in the second round. I think he's the best defender we have had on the Bucks in a long, long time. Any time you can get a guy in the second round that can guard four positions and be considered for the NBA all-defensive team I think that is a great selection for the second round.

Every team that wants to compete for a championship needs a guy like Luc.

Right, but he still needs to add top notch talent. Adding excellent role players like Luc every year would be awesome, but we really aren't going anywhere if he can't add some top talent.

Hitting on very good role players doesn't make up for completely whiffing in the lottery, which is what I am mainly arguing against. I certainly don't want a repeat of the 2008 draft in 2009 or 2010. The post from xTitan that I quoted seemed to imply that would be okay, and I've seen other posts implying the same thing.

I argee we need top tier talent and that hitting in the first round is far more important than in the second.

I guess I am just trying to say that I am very pleased with getting Luc last year in the second round... If we get a second rounder like him every year, that'd be excellent.

Post #479 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:47 pm

LukePliska wrote:If we get a second rounder like him every year, that'd be excellent.

We've gotten great second rounders all day long. Redd, Gadz, Ramon, LRMAM, Eric Snow, Bogans, signed Mo Williams, signed Bobby, etc.

We can't win with a team of "all time" second rounders. We've tried it already.

Newz · Post #480 » by **Newz** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:50 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
LukePliska wrote:If we get a second rounder like him every year, that'd be excellent.

We've gotten great second rounders all day long. Redd, Gadz, Ramon, LRMAM, Eric Snow, Bogans, signed Mo Williams, signed Bobby, etc.

We can't win with a team of "all time" second rounders. We've tried it already.

Like I said... I know we need to land talent in the first round. If you want to win a championship, you have to do that.

It certainly isn't a bad thing to be able to draft solid players in the second round though... Now we just have to learn how to do it in the first and we'll be set.