2019 Bucks Off Season Thread - Trades, Transactions - Korver Signs

[DrWood]

So as of right now we’re looking at

Bledsoe/Hill/Donte
Matthews/Connaughton/Brown
Middleton/Thanasis
Giannis/Ilyasova/Wilson
Brook/Robin/Leuer

2-way: Bonzi Colson

One roster spot, one 2-way open. Two if/when Leuer is stretched. Biggest takeaway from that depth chart is we really need Donte to be a consistent contributor/shot maker at the two.

The takeaway from that depth chart would be that Donte isn't playing the 2.

[PG Graveyard]

Count me in on Thanasis being a great locker room guy and buddy for Giannis that makes sure we lock in the super max next year. I'm ok with adding the younger one as well since he has some potential. Keep the Antetokounmpo's in Milwaukee!

[DrWood]

So in 2 years we can lose them both to the Raps.

No, we sign them both, giving big brother millions for the benefit of keeping Giannis.

Didn't the Morris brothers sign a contract with one lump sum for both of them, to be divided as they saw fit? Or was that an urban legend?

[DrWood]

Serious, honest question: Who did you all exactly want to be the 15th man/towel waver?

Either a ring-hunting vet who might be good enough to play when we sit a guy for "load management" or an UDFA with about a 5% chance of having an NBA career.

[DrWood]

Two sets of brothers on the same team. This has to be a first.

2015 Suns had the Morris twins and the Dragic brothers.

https://www.npr.org/2015/02/15/386448308/at-nba-all-star-game-two-brothers-get-the-spotlight

I hope we don't follow in their footsteps in other ways.

I didn't even know there was a Zoran Dragic.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

So in 2 years we can lose them both to the Raps.

No, we sign them both, giving big brother millions for the benefit of keeping Giannis.

Didn't the Morris brothers sign a contract with one lump sum for both of them, to be divided as they saw fit? Or was that an urban legend?

The NBA made them assign a value to each contract. The difference is they didn't do it to circumvent the cap and the contracts were reasonable.

[ACGB]

I hope we find out soon whatever it is they are trying to do that is holding up completing the other deals.

[drone3]

Serious question: How valuable is the 15th spot on the roster really? I mean how often do guys go from the 15th man to a contributor on a good team?

Frazier certainly contributed at times for us due to injury. I would venture to guess some around here thought Pat Connaughton was our 15th man last season. I know I thought it may have been DJ Wilson.

This right here, we used every single spot on the roster, besides our two way players Duval and Morris. Even Bonzi did see some time at the end of the season and I think it's telling that if you can play Bud ball he will find some minutes for you. C.Wood on the other hand had heaps of solo talent but he couldn't play Bud ball and didn't see much time.

[VooDoo7]

We all know how close Giannis is with his brothers. I just hope this doesn't mean Giannis only hangs/does things with Thanasis and not his other teammates during road trips, etc. I think chemistry off the court is very important to team chemistry on the court.

[Iheartfootball]

No one knows the exact reason why they signed Thanasis. There may be multiple reasons. But whatever, he's last on the bench and won't get any burn. Maybe they truly see him as a cheap developmental project with upside. Maybe he develops, maybe he doesn't. But if it is because they are appeasing Giannis I suppose that's weird. But the NBA is weird and there's a lot of money riding on what Giannis does when his contract is up. If they overall risk is worth any upside then I don't care. Who really cares? It's not that important in the grand scheme of things. I still think this franchise is slightly dysfunctional. That doesn't change overnight without a change at the very top.

[GBPackers47]

We all know how close Giannis is with his brothers. I just hope this doesn't mean Giannis only hangs/does things with Thanasis and not his other teammates during road trips, etc. I think chemistry off the court is very important to team chemistry on the court.

Brook Lopez and Eric Bledsoe are in Greece with Giannis right now. I wouldn’t worry about it.

[paulpressey25]

Love that we’re back to “roster spots don’t matter” after our first (and only?) year of proving the value of every roster spot.

Again, Giannis.

But also, we’ve used picks to trim bad player/contract fat, and open up roster spots we didn’t have 1-3 years ago. Because guys like Delly and Telly were so bad or injured, that 13-15 guy took on more importance. Heck, at one moment we had Henson, Thon, Monroe and Plumlee holding down FOUR roster spots for center and all were bad. We now have 2 Lopez who upgraded the position and opened up two roster spots.

Our top 8-10 guys are now all legit, so we don’t have to keep hoping man #15 will turn into something.

[Chuck Diesel]

We signed Pat Connaughton in August and he proved crucial for us. We have no idea who the 15th guy is right now but we can identify who is and isn't an NBA player. Thanasis=Giannis returning is also not a leap that makes sense to make.

[VooDoo7]

Guess they'll have to dust off Jack Sikma's/Mark Pope's #43.

[paulpressey25]

We signed Pat Connaughton in August and he proved crucial for us. We have no idea who the 15th guy is right now but we can identify who is and isn't an NBA player. Thanasis=Giannis returning is also not a leap that makes sense to make.

And we have room still to sign a Pat this year also.

For my money, $3mm and Thanasis is a very cheap effort that might help out next July.

[TroyD92]

Durant left because he didn’t want to play with Westbrook anymore. Do people just forget this?

[LuessiT]

Love that we’re back to “roster spots don’t matter” after our first (and only?) year of proving the value of every roster spot.

Again, Giannis.

But also, we’ve used picks to trim bad player/contract fat, and open up roster spots we didn’t have 1-3 years ago. Because guys like Delly and Telly were so bad or injured, that 13-15 guy took on more importance. Heck, at one moment we had Henson, Thon, Monroe and Plumlee holding down FOUR roster spots for center and all were bad. We now have 2 Lopez who upgraded the position and opened up two roster spots.

Our top 8-10 guys are now all legit, so we don’t have to keep hoping man #15 will turn into something.

I definitely agree. Another way to use those roster spots is by developing players. Not sure if Thannasis falls into that bracket though. What we definitely shouldn't do is sign end of the bench guys that aren't actually good enough to play. Guys like Jodie Meeks we should avoid. Mack is right on the edge. Anyway you get the picture.

I'm still eyeing Bender with one of those spots.

[Chuck Diesel]

That’s cool. Agree to disagree. And for the record, I do like Thanasis for what he is and will be rooting for him. It continues a cool family story and I take no pleasure in being like “this guy is TRASH!” Just fundamentally disagree on this type of roster construction.

[FlagsFlyForever]

Lol what a complete farce of a signing to wake up to. Some bs from Giannis if he forced this and even worse that we did it and gave him 2 guaranteed years.

You are going to stroke out at a premature age my friend

No, he’s completely right. This is an amateur-hour, small market insecure move. Bucks were freaked out seeing all this FA movement of superstars and made a move of desperation.

They could’ve had Thanasis the last several seasons when nobody wanted him. I want to know how his game has changed in the last few years to improve to be worthy of a 2-year deal. An invite to summer league or training camp, no problem. This is mini-LeBron type BS trying to tell a GM what to do to appease him.

"Small market insecure move"? How quickly we forget Phoenix signing Zoran Dragic and New York signing Chris Smith.

Obviously this move was made with the hopes of resigning Giannis and not for what Thanasis will bring on the court. You guys are looking at this like it's checkers while Horst is playing chess. If Giannis resigns next summer in part because of this signing, I don't know how anybody can consider it anything but one of the best minimum contracts ever given out.

[paulpressey25]

That’s cool. Agree to disagree. And for the record, I do like Thanasis for what he is and will be rooting for him. It continues a cool family story and I take no pleasure in being like “this guy is TRASH!” Just fundamentally disagree on this type of roster construction.

You’re old enough to remember Jack Haley.

Also, I’m rusty in new CBA. What type of Bird rights do we get with a two-year? We can get Giannis family more $$ with a Bird rights contract to Thanasis two years from now? Would I condone such salary cap skullduggery? Normally no, but given that we will be fighting the entire coastal media establishment to keep Giannis, we need to use every trick in the book.