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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 26 Years Old 

Post#481 » by PG Graveyard » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:04 am

Chad34 wrote:Got my Giannis book yesterday. What an amazing, inspirational journey. Reading about Giannis and Thanasis relationship now. Glad he’s resigned.


It is an amazing story and I truly believe Giannis has no ceiling based on his upbringing. He is an amazing human being.

One thing I did get from the book is the outstanding job the Bucks did as an organization to make him as comfortable as possible. I now understand the organizations confidence in him signing the super max. A lot of things went into that, but kudos to everyone involved. A normal 15th pick in the draft may not have gotten that treatment.
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Post#482 » by HKPackFan » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:47 pm

The book is absolutely 100% a must read.

To get the emotion and context you've got to read thr whole thing, so if you haven't read the book maybe you won't appreciate the impact, but I read this paragraph and literally had to stop and pause.


Page 28 is talking about Giannis who at this point hasn't quite turned the corner or yet 100% bought it into being a basketball player. He's just a kid still more worried about selling trinkets to get food then play bball. He's showing effort but not much skill yet.


I read this paragraph, and I gasped out loud.

It's talking about Giannis going up against a much stronger, bigger, older more experienced player on a rival team:

One of those games Diamantakos kept posting Giannis up again and again. "Giannis was not so strong" says Diamantakos who now plays for Apollo Patras.


....
Diamantakos had his way with him. That made Giannis more determined, and he started fighting back. Started blocking shots. “That was his talent, " says Diamantakos," That's what we were afraid of: his long arms. When he jumped? That was it.“

Giannis had a passion for defense.


I read this and instantly I saw one of the most iconic plays in NBA finals HISTORY.

And I realized that moment, that block, that never giving up started right here. A scrawny little malnourished kid playing vs someone bigger, stronger, better in every way having his way with Giannis, but Giannis didn't care, just made him come back for more until he could start blocking the much bigger and better player in Front of him.

Fast forward 13yrs later, he's making those same plays in situations you aren't supposed to, but in the NBA finals.

I literally had to pause and almost teared up, I felt it was this moment or a moment like this that lead Giannis to create the play we just saw a few weeks ago for him to become a champion.
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Re: Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - 26 Years Old 

Post#483 » by har13 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:45 pm

HKPackFan wrote:The book is absolutely 100% a must read.



One of those games Diamantakos kept posting Giannis up again and again. "Giannis was not so strong" says Diamantakos who now plays for Apollo Patras.


....
Diamantakos had his way with him. That made Giannis more determined, and he started fighting back. Started blocking shots. “That was his talent, " says Diamantakos," That's what we were afraid of: his long arms. When he jumped? That was it.“

Giannis had a passion for defense.



Of course he had his way, he had his way with all the kids, Diamantakos was already 7'1'' back then.. but now... :lol: :lol:
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Post#484 » by HKPackFan » Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:08 pm

har13 wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:The book is absolutely 100% a must read.



One of those games Diamantakos kept posting Giannis up again and again. "Giannis was not so strong" says Diamantakos who now plays for Apollo Patras.


....
Diamantakos had his way with him. That made Giannis more determined, and he started fighting back. Started blocking shots. “That was his talent, " says Diamantakos," That's what we were afraid of: his long arms. When he jumped? That was it.“

Giannis had a passion for defense.



Of course he had his way, he had his way with all the kids, Diamantakos was already 7'1'' back then.. but now... :lol: :lol:



That's the beauty of Giannis. He took on guys way better older and bigger and its because of those battles with Diamantakos types Giannis can do the unthinkable.
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Post#485 » by CharityStripe34 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:42 am

Is Gianni a modern-day Hakeem with David Robinson's physique, and with PG handles?

And he's obviously not yet a finished product. And he's a gem of a person.

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Post#486 » by Milbucks96 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:12 am

I would say modern David Robinson with guard handles, I don’t really see Hakeem.
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Post#487 » by CharityStripe34 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:36 am

Milbucks96 wrote:I would say modern David Robinson with guard handles, I don’t really see Hakeem.


His defensive instincts. And while he didn’t have Hakeems footwork on the block, I think Gianni’s footwork driving to the rim is overlooked and incredible, especially for how many different angles he takes on his drives.
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Post#488 » by brigadierjerry » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:05 am

Knicks fan that comes in peace. Congrats on title. Giannis reminds me a lot of a bigger longer version of Dr j especially the high flyer Dr j of aba days.

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Post#489 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:07 pm

I know you probably don't care about the Chicago Bears but their coach Matt Nagy liked so much the quote of Giannis about the past=ego, future=pride, present=humility that:

The cliff notes version is "When you focus on the past, that's your ego... And when I focus on the future it's my pride... And I kind of like to focus in the moment, in the present. And that's humility. That's being humble."

And for Nagy, it's the perfect mantra for the Bears and one he said "is going up in all four of my kids' bedrooms."

He posted a now deleted tweet video of him showing the Giannis clip to the entire Bears team.

Then Nagy invoked Giannis' quote and added: "You can't worry about the past. You can't worry about the future. We're going to worry about right now, today. That's all we can do."

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/matt-nagy-hanging-giannis-antetokounmpo-quote-his-house
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Post#490 » by tydett » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:07 pm

I love the story of the book. I cannot appreciate Giannis more as a role model for people in general. But the writing in this book is straight up horrendous. I cannot believe it made it past an editor. It reads like it was written by an undergraduate student or above average high school senior. So many independent clauses left hanging and no variation in sentence structure. Really amateurish work.
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Post#491 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:20 pm

Giannis is still the sleeping giant. Still the underdog.

The NBA world is all in on LA & Brooklyn. Its only going to be all the sweeter to watch them beat those teams.
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Post#492 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:39 pm

tydett wrote:I love the story of the book. I cannot appreciate Giannis more as a role model for people in general. But the writing in this book is straight up horrendous. I cannot believe it made it past an editor. It reads like it was written by an undergraduate student or above average high school senior. So many independent clauses left hanging and no variation in sentence structure. Really amateurish work.


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Post#493 » by CharityStripe34 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:04 pm

tydett wrote:I love the story of the book. I cannot appreciate Giannis more as a role model for people in general. But the writing in this book is straight up horrendous. I cannot believe it made it past an editor. It reads like it was written by an undergraduate student or above average high school senior. So many independent clauses left hanging and no variation in sentence structure. Really amateurish work.
It is a very simple read, to be sure. But at least young people will be able to absorb the essence of Gianni's story. That aspect didn't need Hemingway at the pen.

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Post#494 » by glenn » Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:18 pm

The book is extremely well written and reported. Comparing it to the work of a high schooler is nonsense.
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Post#495 » by tydett » Wed Aug 18, 2021 11:42 pm

glenn wrote:The book is extremely well written and reported. Comparing it to the work of a high schooler is nonsense.


It is extremely well researched, of that there is no doubt. But to call it well written is speaking as someone who likes Giannis and his story, which is indeed compelling enough to carry the prose, which is terrible.
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Post#496 » by StickeeFingaz » Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:22 am

tydett wrote:
glenn wrote:The book is extremely well written and reported. Comparing it to the work of a high schooler is nonsense.


It is extremely well researched, of that there is no doubt. But to call it well written is speaking as someone who likes Giannis and his story, which is indeed compelling enough to carry the prose, which is terrible.


I tend to agree with tydett. The stories are good, actually making me LOL at times, but the writing is so choppy and doesn't flow at all. Fader mentioned that she decided to write the book after writing an article for Bleacher Report and so far (I'm ~120 pages in) it reads like a bunch of Bleacher Report articles mushed together.

ETA: Another thing that has annoyed me with the book is that through the first 120 pages, I feel like many of the anecdotes are shared without reference to Giannis's age or the year they occurred.
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Post#497 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:17 pm

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Post#498 » by Matches Malone » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:27 pm

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Post#499 » by Matches Malone » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:46 pm

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Post#500 » by emunney » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:51 pm

NGL I had no idea how good the Brewers were this year until Giannis bought part of them and I looked it up.
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