FISERV Forum Thread

[Mags FTW]

Who foots the bill for all of the police overtime, traffic control, etc.?

Will probably need a lot more police and private security. But then you run the risk of becoming RiverSplash 2.0 where it becomes cost-prohibitive to put this thing on.

[BuckFan25226]

I was down there last night after the game. Why? I have no clue, it was bazaar, frightening and sad all at once. More people were in the streets loidering than were in bars. This was 2 plus hours after the game!

As I looked around, over 70% of the people down there were baby faced, couldn't have been over 21, saw groups groups girls walking around who were easily under 18, other girls twerking, dudes doing burnouts in crowds.

I'm far past my going downtown days. But last night was depressing to see what the fun parts of downtown Milwaukee have become.

[MickeyDavis]

Smart to cancel for tomorrow and reevaluate

[paulpressey25]

Smart to cancel for tomorrow and reevaluate

But will they open up Fiserv to watch on the Jumbotron? I’d doubt it, but that press release wasn’t quite clear.

[steger_3434]

If you’re a player and you hear 20 people get shot right after your home game, VERY near the arena, do you subconsciously feel pretty good about there being no more home games this year and mail it in a bit?

It’s gotta impact you in some way, right?

I found George hill


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[ejn1214]

If you’re a player and you hear 20 people get shot right after your home game, VERY near the arena, do you subconsciously feel pretty good about there being no more home games this year and mail it in a bit?

It’s gotta impact you in some way, right?

I found George hill


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I thought the same thing. At first I found mirangers post far fetched but then remembered we have George hill.

[soxperry]

I was down there last night after the game. Why? I have no clue, it was bazaar, frightening and sad all at once. More people were in the streets loidering than were in bars. This was 2 plus hours after the game!

As I looked around, over 70% of the people down there were baby faced, couldn't have been over 21, saw groups groups girls walking around who were easily under 18, other girls twerking, dudes doing burnouts in crowds.

I'm far past my going downtown days. But last night was depressing to see what the fun parts of downtown Milwaukee have become.

the shooting is nonsensical and beyond comprehension for me. everything else you listed seems pretty logical.

[BuckFan25226]

I was down there last night after the game. Why? I have no clue, it was bazaar, frightening and sad all at once. More people were in the streets loidering than were in bars. This was 2 plus hours after the game!

As I looked around, over 70% of the people down there were baby faced, couldn't have been over 21, saw groups groups girls walking around who were easily under 18, other girls twerking, dudes doing burnouts in crowds.

I'm far past my going downtown days. But last night was depressing to see what the fun parts of downtown Milwaukee have become.

the shooting is nonsensical and beyond comprehension for me. everything else you listed seems pretty logical.

The shooting was a gang/turf war situation. Silk being one of the spots where things get can dicey.

But there was nothing logical at all about what I saw. Maybe logical isn't the word, did you mean fairly normal? I've been going down to games there my whole life and will occasionally still head out for a drink after. During my younger years, going out after was routine. This was not normal. Felt like a street racing scene from fast and furious with more people and the lack of tricked out cars.

My point is, this isn't Vegas. It's 11ish pm, the game has been over for 2 hours, go to a bar or go home.

[WRau1]

I was down there last night after the game. Why? I have no clue, it was bazaar, frightening and sad all at once. More people were in the streets loidering than were in bars. This was 2 plus hours after the game!

As I looked around, over 70% of the people down there were baby faced, couldn't have been over 21, saw groups groups girls walking around who were easily under 18, other girls twerking, dudes doing burnouts in crowds.

I'm far past my going downtown days. But last night was depressing to see what the fun parts of downtown Milwaukee have become.

the shooting is nonsensical and beyond comprehension for me. everything else you listed seems pretty logical.

The shooting was a gang/turf war situation. Silk being one of the spots where things get can dicey.

But there was nothing logical at all about what I saw. Maybe logical isn't the word, did you mean fairly normal? I've been going down to games there my whole life and will occasionally still head out for a drink after. During my younger years, going out after was routine. This was not normal. Felt like a street racing scene from fast and furious with more people and the lack of tricked out cars.

My point is, this isn't Vegas. It's 11ish pm, the game has been over for 2 hours, go to a bar or go home.

Had some friends there that described the situation very similar to what you have said. Didn't seem like the usual Bucks crowd, a lot of younger people, a lot of large groups just hanging around doing nothing.

[ejn1214]

the shooting is nonsensical and beyond comprehension for me. everything else you listed seems pretty logical.

The shooting was a gang/turf war situation. Silk being one of the spots where things get can dicey.

But there was nothing logical at all about what I saw. Maybe logical isn't the word, did you mean fairly normal? I've been going down to games there my whole life and will occasionally still head out for a drink after. During my younger years, going out after was routine. This was not normal. Felt like a street racing scene from fast and furious with more people and the lack of tricked out cars.

My point is, this isn't Vegas. It's 11ish pm, the game has been over for 2 hours, go to a bar or go home.

Had some friends there that described the situation very similar to what you have said. Didn't seem like the usual Bucks crowd, a lot of younger people, a lot of large groups just hanging around doing nothing.

This description is very similar to how it felt on water during Harley weekend a couple of years ago. Lots of underage people loitering out side and some harassing/catcalling, and starting altercations. Maybe I'm just getting older but I went to landmark after a bulls game series and the crowd there has changed alot, atleast that night.

[soxperry]

I was down there last night after the game. Why? I have no clue, it was bazaar, frightening and sad all at once. More people were in the streets loidering than were in bars. This was 2 plus hours after the game!

As I looked around, over 70% of the people down there were baby faced, couldn't have been over 21, saw groups groups girls walking around who were easily under 18, other girls twerking, dudes doing burnouts in crowds.

I'm far past my going downtown days. But last night was depressing to see what the fun parts of downtown Milwaukee have become.

the shooting is nonsensical and beyond comprehension for me. everything else you listed seems pretty logical.

The shooting was a gang/turf war situation. Silk being one of the spots where things get can dicey.

But there was nothing logical at all about what I saw. Maybe logical isn't the word, did you mean fairly normal? I've been going down to games there my whole life and will occasionally still head out for a drink after. During my younger years, going out after was routine. This was not normal. Felt like a street racing scene from fast and furious with more people and the lack of tricked out cars.

My point is, this isn't Vegas. It's 11ish pm, the game has been over for 2 hours, go to a bar or go home.

lol.. 11pm? oh my!

i dont know what water street used to be like, was never my scene, but breaking news: kids have an almost desperate inclination to have fun at that age. deer district during bucks games is a thing now. its a festival atmosphere. those that werent there for the finals run last year saw all the videos of a sea of people having a blast and they want a piece of the action. and since they arent 21 they cant go to a bar, and they dont want to go home, so....at least thats my interpretation. thats all i meant by logical.

[BuckFan25226]

the shooting is nonsensical and beyond comprehension for me. everything else you listed seems pretty logical.

The shooting was a gang/turf war situation. Silk being one of the spots where things get can dicey.

But there was nothing logical at all about what I saw. Maybe logical isn't the word, did you mean fairly normal? I've been going down to games there my whole life and will occasionally still head out for a drink after. During my younger years, going out after was routine. This was not normal. Felt like a street racing scene from fast and furious with more people and the lack of tricked out cars.

My point is, this isn't Vegas. It's 11ish pm, the game has been over for 2 hours, go to a bar or go home.

lol.. 11pm? oh my!

i dont know what water street used to be like, was never my scene, but breaking news: kids have an almost desperate inclination to have fun at that age. deer district during bucks games is a thing now. its a festival atmosphere. those that werent there for the finals run last year saw all the videos of a sea of people having a blast and they want a piece of the action. and since they arent 21 they cant go to a bar, and they dont want to go home, so....at least thats my interpretation. thats all i meant by logical.

11pm wasn't a point of emphasis as being too late., that's way too early for that to be happening. 2am, 2:30am, bar time? That's when I expect thousands of young drunks figuring out an after bar and how to get home. This was early in the night. And no, kids under 18 shouldn't be loitering downtown Milwaukee. There is literally nothing good that can come of that.

That used to be my scene. We would go out to every Bucks game, go out on old world 3rd and water street after the game and tear it up. This was bad and something I've never seen. Anyway....considering this was never your scene, it's interesting you are arguing my observation.


Regardless, sad times. Glad no one was killed.

[MickeyDavis]

Did current STH already have to commit to next season? Did you get a discount the earlier you commit?

I imagine secondary ticket prices will be less next season. The new champion smell is gone.

[PhoenixMilwauke]

Did current STH already have to commit to next season? Did you get a discount the earlier you commit?

I imagine secondary ticket prices will be less next season. The new champion smell is gone.

STH have to commit by around Mid-Jan. There is no discount as such for Mid-Jan renewal - It's likely the seats get sold for higher when they get to the new buyer though. If you don't commit and have good seats, you will probably lose them. 1st row of a section for example is the same price as the 5th but obviously much better value.

This RS was pretty poor for reselling. Shocking even coming off a championship. The playoff tickets sold better than last year though (Rnds 1 and 2 anyway). I think for most fans, the RS is meh at this point. With Giannis on the team, it's championship or bust. I suspect next season's tix will drop about 10% from this year.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Did current STH already have to commit to next season? Did you get a discount the earlier you commit?

I imagine secondary ticket prices will be less next season. The new champion smell is gone.

Yeah, they jacked up prices again and rushed resigning. I know a decent amount didn't renew because of low demand in resale and the higher price. They were good to season ticket holders in allowing extra playoff tickets at a lower than public price.

That said, it's not worth over paying for 41 games to maybe get 12 tickets in the playoffs. Unless we make a splash or look amazing, there will be a huge drop in reups. Packers will still be the number 1 game in town until the new year.

[Thunder Muscle]

Did current STH already have to commit to next season? Did you get a discount the earlier you commit?

I imagine secondary ticket prices will be less next season. The new champion smell is gone.

Yeah, they jacked up prices again and rushed resigning. I know a decent amount didn't renew because of low demand in resale and the higher price. They were good to season ticket holders in allowing extra playoff tickets at a lower than public price.

That said, it's not worth over paying for 41 games to maybe get 12 tickets in the playoffs. Unless we make a splash or look amazing, there will be a huge drop in reups. Packers will still be the number 1 game in town until the new year.

I think the only benefit of renewing early was extra rewards points on benefits. So not much really, maybe a $25 concession card worth, haha.

I didn't get a price increase but I expect a decent amount of STH not renewing. Resell was tough b/c so many people were selling and fans were kind of in a Championship hangover, Packers went to late January, etc. My playoffs sold well though and made my total year a value. So I'll be back another year. My hope is less STH means less out on secondary market thus creates a little demand if Bucks don't throw out a ton of deals. We'll see. Hopefully they improve the benefit package.

With that said, I'm nearing my threshold of if its worth it. If I get a big hike next year, I may dip out b/c I just can't imagine I'm gonna consistently get $50-60/ticket for upper level seats outside of a handful of games.

[soxperry]

The shooting was a gang/turf war situation. Silk being one of the spots where things get can dicey.

But there was nothing logical at all about what I saw. Maybe logical isn't the word, did you mean fairly normal? I've been going down to games there my whole life and will occasionally still head out for a drink after. During my younger years, going out after was routine. This was not normal. Felt like a street racing scene from fast and furious with more people and the lack of tricked out cars.

My point is, this isn't Vegas. It's 11ish pm, the game has been over for 2 hours, go to a bar or go home.

lol.. 11pm? oh my!

i dont know what water street used to be like, was never my scene, but breaking news: kids have an almost desperate inclination to have fun at that age. deer district during bucks games is a thing now. its a festival atmosphere. those that werent there for the finals run last year saw all the videos of a sea of people having a blast and they want a piece of the action. and since they arent 21 they cant go to a bar, and they dont want to go home, so....at least thats my interpretation. thats all i meant by logical.

11pm wasn't a point of emphasis as being too late., that's way too early for that to be happening. 2am, 2:30am, bar time? That's when I expect thousands of young drunks figuring out an after bar and how to get home. This was early in the night. And no, kids under 18 shouldn't be loitering downtown Milwaukee. There is literally nothing good that can come of that.

That used to be my scene. We would go out to every Bucks game, go out on old world 3rd and water street after the game and tear it up. This was bad and something I've never seen. Anyway....considering this was never your scene, it's interesting you are arguing my observation.


Regardless, sad times. Glad no one was killed.

maybe i misunderstood you then. i thought you were confused as to why kids would want to be out partying in proximity of the hot new thing thats going on.

if youre more confused as to why thats being allowed to happen, i can empathize. there should probably be a curfew for their safety as much as anything else.

its too bad how things turned out. deer district was really a magical thing last year and although its rooted in some kind of corporate wet dream aimed at brand loyalty, the magnitude and vibe felt organic and felt like the potential of what Milwaukee has to offer at its best. Summerfest, but cool and relevant.

Title defense terminated. Deer district desecrated.

what now?

[JimmyTheKid]

Nothing changes. At least for me. And probably thousands of others who have become numb to this sort of thing. The District will be packed again next year. Unfortunately its just the world (country) we live in. There were shootings/carjackings during last year's title run also. You can get shot literally anywhere. Grocery store, church, office, concert, kids baseball game, nail salon, movie theater, festival, anywhere. So either live your life or stay in your house all day. And hope nobody you love gets gunned down for no reason. 'Murica.

[Profound23]

The sad thing is that is two political things that happened over the past three years during the playoff run.

During the bubble the shooting that almost forced players to boycott the playoffs in the bubble and now this. You have to think both weighed heavily on their mind.

[MickeyDavis]

Did current STH already have to commit to next season? Did you get a discount the earlier you commit?

I imagine secondary ticket prices will be less next season. The new champion smell is gone.

Yeah, they jacked up prices again and rushed resigning. I know a decent amount didn't renew because of low demand in resale and the higher price. They were good to season ticket holders in allowing extra playoff tickets at a lower than public price.

That said, it's not worth over paying for 41 games to maybe get 12 tickets in the playoffs. Unless we make a splash or look amazing, there will be a huge drop in reups. Packers will still be the number 1 game in town until the new year.

I think the only benefit of renewing early was extra rewards points on benefits. So not much really, maybe a $25 concession card worth, haha.

I didn't get a price increase but I expect a decent amount of STH not renewing. Resell was tough b/c so many people were selling and fans were kind of in a Championship hangover, Packers went to late January, etc. My playoffs sold well though and made my total year a value. So I'll be back another year. My hope is less STH means less out on secondary market thus creates a little demand if Bucks don't throw out a ton of deals. We'll see. Hopefully they improve the benefit package.

With that said, I'm nearing my threshold of if its worth it. If I get a big hike next year, I may dip out b/c I just can't imagine I'm gonna consistently get $50-60/ticket for upper level seats outside of a handful of games.

Regular prices for individual games are stupidly high for the most part. STH resellers help. I can buy on SH for less, sometimes far less, for lowers, than buying direct. Less STH will definitely effect the secondary market.