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[Baddy Chuck]

based on what?

Based on the fact that they could buy him out, save a little money and not have to give up some of their only remaining assets to dump him to save a little money.

PJ is still due about 8M for this season and around 11M for next season. That's 19M total. How much of that 19M do you see him leaving on the table in a universe where he already has a ring?

Minimum salary deal to play out this season and a minimum salary deal next year would be around like $4.5 million or something so start there and use him choosing his next location(s) as a bargaining chip.

[raferfenix]

Clippers trade: PJ, future first
Clippers receive: Bobby

Knicks trade: Quickley
Knicks receive: LAC first, Portland 2024 second, MarJon

Bucks trade: Bobby, MarJon, Portland 2024 second
Bucks receive: Quickley, PJ


Reasons why it wouldn’t happen include:

1. Bobby’s not a good enough fit to warrant the Clippers giving up a first even while dumping Tucker.

2. Knicks hold onto Quickley to make a bigger trade or to get better assets rather than cashing in for these picks and MarJon.

3. Bucks wait to can Griffin before making this big of a shakeup.

[Karsenmitsche]

We currently have zero defenders to throw at Boston and the entire board thinks it’s a bad idea to go get PJ.

It fills a big need, opens up some really good Giannis at the 5 lineups that will be needed vs Boston, and our offense will still be efficient enough with him on the floor. Also gives our team an energy boost it desperately needs.

[AussieBuck]

Clippers trade: PJ, future first
Clippers receive: Bobby

Knicks trade: Quickley
Knicks receive: LAC first, Portland 2024 second, MarJon

Bucks trade: Bobby, MarJon, Portland 2024 second
Bucks receive: Quickley, PJ


Reasons why it wouldn’t happen include:

1. Bobby’s not a good enough fit to warrant the Clippers giving up a first even while dumping Tucker.

2. Knicks hold onto Quickley to make a bigger trade or to get better assets rather than cashing in for these picks and MarJon.

3. Bucks wait to can Griffin before making this big of a shakeup.

What about a version that gets us Caruso and PJ?

[AussieBuck]

Over here living in a world where Dante Exum has never been a Buck.

[raferfenix]

What about a version that gets us Caruso and PJ?

Was thinking about that too.

We’d have to trade Pat to Chicago instead of or in addition to MarJon to make the salaries work. I’d be worried about the SF position afterwards is one consideration.

Caruso would definitely be less of a long term upgrade than Quickley and is dramatically worse offensively. That said Quickley going for that price is more debatable than Caruso.

It’d make us way tougher but idk if I pull the trigger before trying out a new coach.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I think this version of PJ is why a lot of us were ok with the Bucks moving on from PJ for basketball reasons and not necessarily because they were cheap. He was a 6'5" PF that can't score who was 36.5 and wanting an multi-year 8 figure deal with a very strong personality. We were wrong and he played great for 12 months (miami?), decent for 12 more and then sucked. We should have resigned him in hindsight for sure, but I don't think it is as bad as a process as people seem to think to move on from a guy about to lose to fathertime.

[jute2003]

I think this version of PJ is why a lot of us were ok with the Bucks moving on from PJ for basketball reasons and not necessarily because they were cheap. He was a 6'5" PF that can't score who was 36.5 and wanting an multi-year 8 figure deal with a very strong personality. We were wrong and he played great for 12 months (miami?), decent for 12 more and then sucked. We should have resigned him in hindsight for sure, but I don't think it is as bad as a process as people seem to think to move on from a guy about to lose to fathertime.

They bet on the most likely outcome. Good for PJ for pushing it back a year and a half longer than most expected but it doesn't mean it was a bad bet for the bucks.

[EasyE31]

tucker and a first for portis and marjon might interest me. tuckers deal next year is moveable with lopez and wed have that much more ammo with the pick

as it relates to this year i find it difficult to believe that a pampered regular season tucker wouldnt help more than portis in the playoffs for what this team needs from that position. tag teaming jae and tucker against the celtics at least on theory could be a thing. marjon and portis are useless against them

This is an interesting concept but unfortunately the only future 1 the Clippers control outright is 2030 and they can't trade that due the Stepian rule. So they basically have no ability to send a pick along with Tucker.

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Clippers/13/draft-picks

[crowhead76]

Bucks in: Tucker, Caruso, Craig
Bulls in: Marjon, Pat, Kobe Brown, 2024 2nd from MIL, 2 2024 2nds & 2030 2nd from Clippers
Clippers in: Portis

Lillard | Payne |
Caruso | Beasley | Green
Middleton | Crowder | AJJ
Giannis | Craig | Livingston | Thanasis
Lopez | Tucker | Lopez

Don't love it, but the defense would be better. (I would not trade for PJ Tucker personally)

[EasyE31]

The Clipper I'd be more interested in adding is Terance Mann. The Clippers have a log jam in the backcourt (Harden, Powell, Westbrook, Bones Hyland, and Mann all competing for minutes) and they desperately need an upgrade at PF/C behind Zubac.

Bucks get: Terance Mann and Daniel Theis
Clippers get: Bobby Portis

Gives the Bucks an athletic wing defender and a serviceable back up big.

[HKPackFan]

I feel a bit of freaky Friday.

Packers are a young up and coming team, while the bucks are contenders with one chip in their hands and in win now mode.

[JonHeist]

PJ is 38 years old

I wouldn't count on him being a better defender than Khris (who is bad himself now)

And he obviously can't score

I'd take him on the minimum for the vibes alone, but only if we've already done a trade that opens up a roster spot

[crowhead76]

PJ is 38 years old

I wouldn't count on him being a better defender than Khris (who is bad himself now)

And he obviously can't score

I'd take him on the minimum for the vibes alone, but only if we've already done a trade that opens up a roster spot

I do have a feeling that if PJ were to agree to a buyout that he ends up on the Celtics bench.

[old skool]

The Bulls are not looking to trade Caruso. They came close to extending their win streak to 5 games, losing in OT on the road to the Bucks. They will wait and see what they get for Lavine and decide Derozan's future. They won't trade Caruso for crumbs.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

PJ is 38 years old

I wouldn't count on him being a better defender than Khris (who is bad himself now)

And he obviously can't score

I'd take him on the minimum for the vibes alone, but only if we've already done a trade that opens up a roster spot

I do have a feeling that if PJ were to agree to a buyout that he ends up on the Celtics bench.

I wouldn't rule out a return to Miami....

[Be Here Now]

I'm in favor of bringing back PJ because I think he can still D it up during a playoff run. He looked fine last year and in the opener this year. I think there's a chance he's just sick of Harden's bs and he'll be able to gear up for meaningful basketball if he's in the right situation.

He's definitely a bad contract but that's why there would be the potential to get an asset back with him. It's something worth exploring imo.

[rilamann]

The intangibles PJ would bring during a championship run on a team with Giannis & Dame would be priceless.

Right now I would say Bucks or Celtics winning the east is a toss up. But if one of those 2 teams acquired PJ Tucker, it would be one of those moves on the margins that would give the team who acquired PJ a significant advantage over the other.

[BUCKnation]

PJ was still pretty solid last year, not really believing he is just cooked 6-7 months after averaging ~25 min a game for a playoff team that took the Celtics to 7 in the 2nd round.

[rilamann]

PJ is 38 years old

I wouldn't count on him being a better defender than Khris (who is bad himself now)

And he obviously can't score

I'd take him on the minimum for the vibes alone, but only if we've already done a trade that opens up a roster spot

I do have a feeling that if PJ were to agree to a buyout that he ends up on the Celtics bench.

If I was the Bucks I would almost go after PJ just so that the Celtics don't end up with him. The Celtics acquiring PJ would give them a massive advantage over the Bucks in May.