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drew881 wrote:Wish we would have drafted a man. Shannon wpuld have been perfect here.
Or if we are drafting a you guy, Kyshawn George has tons of 3 pt range.
AussieBuck wrote:Looks like he has passing chops, that's a big tick for me
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?
emunney wrote:SL starts a week from Monday, will be fun to see him play, along with a hint of whatever progress we might expect from Dre and Dr. Livingston.
machu46 wrote:Illawarra_Buck wrote:The situation:
AJ arrived at a Hawks club in turmoil. It's actually usually a benefit for a Next Star signing to end up at a **** club for guaranteed mins and opportunity - see Melo. We were definitely **** - make no mistake about that.
Unfortunately, coming off the back of a 3-25 season, no one was under more pressure than coach Jakomas. Can I blame the bloke? Nah, it was his livelihood afterall and he clearly thought the best pathway to his continued employment was to go with a lower risk, conservative approach. Maybe grind out a few wins.
Expectations were low. About as low as you could get really. Truthfully no one would have been surprised to see Jakomas' contract extended if we could just scrape our way to 2nd last.
It was in this context that gun sniper and combo guard Tyler Harvey was moved off ball. Ex 2-way Buck Justin Robinson returning from injury was given the reigns as the steady, experienced hand that was to keep coach JJ in a job.
Lack of opportunity for AJ was one of the things that had fans most perplexed. There was also a sense that powers that be in the league weren't happy. Why would young players commit to be Next Stars over college only to get zero burn?
Justin Tatum (Jayson's dad for those not up to date) took over mid season and got to work fiddling with the rotation. As the season turned around, Robinson was relegated to the bench role and there were back court minutes to be had. All of a sudden the conversation was about playoff rotation rather than player development. Ultimately those spare minutes increasingly became allocated to fan favourite Swiss army knife and ultimate glue guy, Will "Davo" Hickey. No one doubts this was a good idea, Hickey's D, hustle and one memorable O board, put back buzzer beater were integral to the fairytale run.
From what we saw, I don't think anyone doubts that AJ could have contributed as a rotation player but without coach Jakomas carving out a role for him early, he was just too young and unfamiliar with systems to be considered for available minutes over more experienced heads, especially as it started look as though we may be a post-season team.
His game:
I watched him scrimmage quite a few times when the Hawks were training at the Snakepit. You hear about his speed, smoothness and athleticism but you actually might not believe it til you see it ... he's fast, in kind of an indescribable way. He creates transition from nothing. Blink and it's over.
His shooting mechanics aren't great. Like everything he does, he gets it off super quickly with seeming ease but it definitely starts low and comes off up off the hip a bit.
The body is the big question mark. He has the right dimensions but the guy is pencil thin. He'd be absolutley bullied in the NBA. The question is to what degree can he bulk up without losing the remarkable aspects of his game.
He won't be slowing down wings any time soon - I saw Gary Clark feast on him during scrimmage a few times. But fronting up to seasoned professional guards like Harvey and Robinson he was able to hold his own. He definitely lacks the strength to fight through screens at the moment.
If i squinted maybe he didn't look totally like a boy playing amongst grown men ... maybe.
Stuff like this is what makes this forum a special place.
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?
emunney wrote:Imagine being in that war room like, "We can't draft this guy at 23, Givony has him going later."
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:watched more clips. the dude is nasty with the dribbles and hesi's. he will shoot it well enough. not even worried about that.
and if silver is 6 3 then our guy is AT LEAST 6 5 and probably more like 6 6. standing side by side theres at least 2 inches probably 3.... and even watching him on the floor with others he looks like hes got size.
also not worried about being a string bean. give me length and skill and he can fatten up whenever. weve drafted measurables in the past and they werent basketball players. this guy looks like a honest to goodness basketball player. i think he comes around faster than hes being projected. he strikes me as the type thats going to develop fast or not at all. the jennings giannis vibe with the ball in his hands is all over the place here. there is nothing about the way he plays that makes me think hes balling on anything but instinct and i love that. thon and marjon for example are the opposite of that. this guy just balls
trwi7 wrote:**** me deep, Giannis. ****. Me. Deep.
JonHeist wrote:he does seem like a nice kid
would be thrilled to be wrong about it being a waste of a pick
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?
SupremeHustle wrote:JonHeist wrote:he does seem like a nice kid
would be thrilled to be wrong about it being a waste of a pick
He didn't cry. That's a great sign.
Every pick we've made that cried ended up being a bust.
Brewhoopfan wrote:With the current status of college NIL, can we at least now be done with some of these talented kids going overseas to play. It now makes no sense on either side, especially if the players aren't physically mature enough to play with grown men.
SupremeHustle wrote:This guy is not 20 yet and 6'4" barefoot. Not seeing the Simons comp in size or gameplay style, but I'd take a taller Simons.
emunney wrote:SupremeHustle wrote:This guy is not 20 yet and 6'4" barefoot. Not seeing the Simons comp in size or gameplay style, but I'd take a taller Simons.
Just given how skinny he is and looking his face, I find it hard to believe he's done growing. He's borderline NBA 6-6 right now. Three players measured at 6-4.25 in last year's combine, and they were all listed at different heights by their teams: Bufkin (6-4), Hawkins (6-5), and Hood-Schifino (6-6).
trwi7 wrote:**** me deep, Giannis. ****. Me. Deep.
jschligs wrote:MD wanna add a letter grade poll to the thread? Curious how many will rate it above a D.