Hammond to ORL: Confirmed by ownership

Baddy Chuck · Post #501 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:12 am

ElPeregrino wrote:Not surprised by all the Hammond hate but I'm thankful we didn't fire him when everybody wanted him fired in 2013. Good luck in Orlando.

Thank god he didn't get to trade the Giannis pick for Josh Smith and extend Jennings and Monta like he wanted to as well.

midranger · Post #502 » by **midranger** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:13 am

Johnny Flynn y'all! Savant.

4xBuck · Post #503 » by **4xBuck** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:13 am

Chapter29 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Hammonds first round picks.

Joe Alexander - Played 67 games in the NBA. Bad
Brandon Jennings - Played 4 seasons for the team, traded, turned into a well below average bench guard.
Larry Sanders - Played 5 seasons. Crazy. Out of the league.
Tobias Harris - Played 80 games for team before being traded. Solid versatile tweener.
John Henson - Played 5 seasons. Backup centre.
Giannis Antetokounmpo - Star.
Rashad Vaughn - Behind Jason Terry on the depth chart.
Thon Maker. Might be the non crazy version of Sanders.

Depending on how you feel about Thon/Tobes there's only one sure fire starter out of 8 picks.

Parker?

Yep...

Sanders going crazy hurt... Pretty funny watching posters hitting on Hammond for not seeing that coming- :lol:

buckboy · Post #504 » by **buckboy** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:14 am

ElPeregrino wrote:Not surprised by all the Hammond hate but I'm thankful we didn't fire him when everybody wanted him fired in 2013. Good luck in Orlando.

I wanted him fired before that. But yeah, glad he made the pick he did in 13.

trwi7 · Post #505 » by **trwi7** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:15 am

Hammond only took this job because it's much easier to get his Disney Fan Fiction published in Orlando.

bizarro · Post #506 » by **bizarro** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:17 am

There is no way to judge Hammond with hypotheticals. If you are to judge him on a speculative proposition that he was the voice of reason, then have at it. The only judge i know of is the overall record under his tenure and playoff success. To that end, Hammond is a colossally below average GM. Not once did he lead us to a promising HC. Not once did he assemble a team that won 50 games. Not once did he assemble a team that made it to round 2 of the playoffs. There is just this lingering hypothetocal scenario that he was handcuffed by two groups of meddling owners whereby his genius was stifled or suppressed. This is hogwash. John Hammond is the very definition of unspectacular. Now he can go be Weltman's pet pony for awhile. Oh yay.

Rockmaninoff · Post #507 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:17 am

midranger wrote:Johnny Flynn y'all! Savant.

Jonny Flynn was a decent prospect, he just got hurt right away and never recovered.

I was more bothered by the Jordan Hill infatuation.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #508 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:18 am

this **** sucks. hopefully you guys are right and our next gm will never make a move that doesn't work out and tell the owners and kidd to go **** themselves everytime they suggest a move that isn't totally awesome using his telekinetic foresight

4xBuck · Post #509 » by **4xBuck** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:19 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Thank god he didn't get to trade the Giannis pick for Josh Smith and extend Jennings and Monta like he wanted to as well.

Whitewashing the Jennings - Knight/Middleton trade and making stuff up about trading the Giannis pick is hilarious... :lol:

Baddy Chuck · Post #510 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:20 am

4xBuck wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Thank god he didn't get to trade the Giannis pick for Josh Smith and extend Jennings and Monta like he wanted to as well.

Whitewashing the Jennings - Knight/Middleton trade and making stuff up about trading the Giannis pick is hilarious...

Making it up, riiiiiiiight.

xTitan · Post #511 » by **xTitan** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:20 am

4xBuck wrote:
Chapter29 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Hammonds first round picks.

Joe Alexander - Played 67 games in the NBA. Bad
Brandon Jennings - Played 4 seasons for the team, traded, turned into a well below average bench guard.
Larry Sanders - Played 5 seasons. Crazy. Out of the league.
Tobias Harris - Played 80 games for team before being traded. Solid versatile tweener.
John Henson - Played 5 seasons. Backup centre.
Giannis Antetokounmpo - Star.
Rashad Vaughn - Behind Jason Terry on the depth chart.
Thon Maker. Might be the non crazy version of Sanders.

Depending on how you feel about Thon/Tobes there's only one sure fire starter out of 8 picks.

Parker?

Yep...

Sanders going crazy hurt... Pretty funny watching posters hitting on Hammond for not seeing that coming-

I can tell you the majority of people in that organization knew Larry was bat-sh** crazy

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #512 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:21 am

our gm was just headhunted and stolen and the board is happy because they think theyre smarter than him. **** nuts.

buckboy · Post #513 » by **buckboy** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:23 am

The crazies are out in full force now. Headhunted. :lol:

4xBuck · Post #514 » by **4xBuck** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:24 am

xTitan wrote:I can tell you the majority of people in that organization knew Larry was bat-sh** crazy

Did anyone complain before the fact, or just after the fact like the geniuses here?

Pachinko_ · Post #515 » by **Pachinko_** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:26 am

**** dream job man... NBA team GM, getting paid a tonne of cash to do what we here do anyway as a hobby on top of our day jobs.
Watch games, scout, make trades, talk to basketball people. Sweet as.

buckboy · Post #516 » by **buckboy** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:26 am

4xBuck wrote:
xTitan wrote:I can tell you the majority of people in that organization knew Larry was bat-sh** crazy

Did anyone complain before the fact, or just after the fact like the geniuses here?

I sense a lot of hate in you. Shame.

xTitan · Post #517 » by **xTitan** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:26 am

I've said it a million times about Hammond, he never seemed to have a plan, treated the team like it was fantasy basketball, multiple moves every off season with no direction, no blueprint. My question is if Johnny was such a good drafter, why could he not develop a foundation in 9 years? I would say that Giannis is now the core piece, but I look at what they have and where they are now and it seems like a long shot they become a true contender, they need Thon to become a star, but still fall short on adding high talent around Giannis.

bizarro · Post #518 » by **bizarro** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:26 am

4xBuck wrote:
xTitan wrote:I can tell you the majority of people in that organization knew Larry was bat-sh** crazy

Did anyone complain before the fact, or just after the fact like the geniuses here?

Wait a minute! Duke, is that you?!?

trwi7 · Post #519 » by **trwi7** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:27 am

4xBuck wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Thank god he didn't get to trade the Giannis pick for Josh Smith and extend Jennings and Monta like he wanted to as well.

Whitewashing the Jennings - Knight/Middleton trade and making stuff up about trading the Giannis pick is hilarious...

I know, two second google searches are hard.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/2/21/4014574/josh-smith-nba-trade-deadline-hawks-bucks

Give Hammond credit though for collecting assets so unappealing that Atlanta didn't want to trade an expiring Josh Smith for them.

LittleRooster · Post #520 » by **LittleRooster** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:30 am

I have to admit I'm throwing myself under the bus here too because I do think he's a good drafter. But the results speak for themselves. Can you imagine if he were GM of the Packers for 9 years and, at best, they were one and done in the playoffs for 3 of those years and that's as far as they went?

We'd be going crazy to get him out of here. But for a team like the Bucks, he's what?