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Bledsoe to the Bucks For Monroe/#1 - POLL ADDED

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Re: Bledsoe to the Bucks For Monroe/#1 - POLL ADDED 

Post#501 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:07 pm

I like it. I am relieved we did not give up Brogdon, though agree with someone else saying I do not think we are done and am a little scared we'll give him up in some other stupid move. Monroe is not who I wanted to send out, but he didn't look like the same guy this year that we saw last year, so I'm not terribly disappointed. My biggest disappointment is not seeing what we would be able to get for him at the deadline, but we got a good return now.

I hope that we are not done...just hope we send out some of our dead-weight contracts somewhere and somehow to help strengthen our bench. In the meantime, I am all for bringing Brogdon off the bench if he can help solidify the second unit. I would still play him 32mpg, but have some of his time be when Giannis is not on the court then to prevent our "all backup" unit from being just godawful.
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Re: Bledsoe to the Bucks For Monroe/#1 - POLL ADDED 

Post#502 » by humanrefutation » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:08 pm

Prez wrote:
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Those aren't some bad pick protections.
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Post#503 » by buckboy » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:09 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:Those pick protections are very funky. I'm still not sure I like them or not.

Would have preferred simply saying 2018 top ten protected and got it over with. But likely the Suns were the ones asking for the ability to defer the pick if it didn't come in the 11-16 range this season.

I think the Suns drove the pick deferral decision in an attempt for the pick to come in bigly for them at some point down the road.


Yea they now have potentially an unprotected first in 2021 from both Miami and us.

The problem is it will be harder to deal a first next year if we want to make another win now trade or if we want to dump a contract. Would have been a million times better for this just to be a top 3 or unprotected pick this year.


Eh. Harder, but not hard.
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Post#504 » by Prez » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:09 pm

guys if we get a legit backup center somehow we're gonna be really **** good
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Post#505 » by Ruzious » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:10 pm

Prez wrote:
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Wow, that's very unusual - fascinating with the risks involved. I'm no stastician, but is seems to me the odds favor the pick going to Phoenix in 2020. I kinda like that.
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Post#506 » by freewhitemoon » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:10 pm

Prez wrote:guys if we get a legit backup center somehow we're gonna be really **** good


there is a young, monster rebounder in New York currently riding the bench.... :D
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Post#507 » by buckboy » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:11 pm

Prez wrote:guys if we get a legit backup center somehow we're gonna be really **** good


We have a legit backup center. And a legit 3rd string center. We need the legit starting center. Doesn't really have to be anything better than a decent defender and rebounder. Robin Lopez would fit perfectly.
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Re: Bledsoe to the Bucks For Monroe/#1 - POLL ADDED 

Post#508 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:11 pm

drew881 wrote:Most lopsided poll in Bucks board history (excluding POG polls)?


That means Bledsoe's knees will act up in two weeks. It's the way of life for a Bucks fan.

But yeah, I voted great deal.
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Post#509 » by Prez » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:11 pm

freewhitemoon wrote:
Prez wrote:guys if we get a legit backup center somehow we're gonna be really **** good


there is a young, monster rebounder in New York currently riding the bench.... :D

yep willy would be a huge steal
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Post#510 » by BuckHole » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:12 pm

sdn40 wrote:This isn't a slam dunk.
Anyone that tweets 'I don't wanna be here' carries with him some concerns.
I sure hope we have someone in the locker room strong enough to not let Bledsoe take over.
If he hates Phoenix, it sure will be interesting what he thinks of Milwaukee in January.
That being said, it was most likely a risk worth taking.

I read it as a professional player whose team management failed him with tanking and team mismanagement. The guy showed leadership by speaking out. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. I’d hope Giannis would say something publicly if our management was abjectly failing the team.
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Post#511 » by coolhandluke121 » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:12 pm

Craig_Hodges wrote:Assuming we make the playoffs as a better than a 6 seed; after the season we could then move our 2018 pick...correct??


Only after making the pick on another team's behalf. If the pick does not convey, then there's a chance they end up conveying the pick in 2019. You can't make any trade that has the potential to leave you without a first-round pick in two consecutive future years. Trading the '18 pick could leave them without one in 2018 and 2019, but during the 2018 draft, it would only (potentially) leave them without a pick in 2019.

You can get around this by trading other picks with tons of contingencies that depend on when this pick is coveyed, or you can acquire very late first-rounders and trade away your own picks for that year. It doesn't matter whose first-rounder it is and it doesn't matter what you did with picks that have already happened, even if you trade them as soon as you pick them; you just can't risk being without one in two consecutive future years.
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Post#512 » by BucksStatsGuy » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:13 pm

Great trade. Did what a teams should do when they know the partner has no leverage whatsoever. Pretty good trade for the Suns too, honestly, considering the situation. I've always been a big Bledsoe fan, and he's the type of swing you would like to take. If he's even 80% of his top self, that's a damn good player, and the impact is even greater due to the shift in minutes from below replacement players to capable ones.
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Post#513 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:13 pm

lvckv wrote:It's basically a 2020 20something pick unless Giannis goes down for a long period of time the next two seasons.

lvckv wrote:These protections do mean that we can't really trade any first-rounders now...


I guess we can trade around the protections.

So for example we can trade the 2018 pick but it only conveys if it's 5-10/17-20, and so on.

I dont think we can since it would be back to back first rounders right?
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Post#514 » by coolhandluke121 » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:14 pm

How much you wanna bet Kidd plays him 40+ minutes in one of his first 3 games despite him not having seen action in weeks? And then his knee acts up and... well, you know where I'm going with this. :lol:
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Post#515 » by raferfenix » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:14 pm

Cuban owes us one for gifting him ZaZa on the cheap back when they were still trying to win now.

Enter Nerlens Noel.

Yes he'd most likely be a short term rental. But so is Vaughn now that his contract is up.

Maybe Dallas wants to take a flier on him. Not sure what else we'd need to give up though.
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Post#516 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:14 pm

Can someone smarter than I please tell me what kinds of things we could do with our now ~$8M worth of trade exceptions we have?
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Post#517 » by emunney » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:15 pm

Craig_Hodges wrote:Assuming we make the playoffs as a better than a 6 seed; after the season we could then move our 2018 pick...correct??


Think we'd have to wait until after the pick is made to trade it because we wouldn't know if it could be conveyed in 2019.
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Post#518 » by raferfenix » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:16 pm

Or maybe Whiteside is the follow up move.

Goran Dragic, James Johnson and Udonis Haslem counseled Hassan Whiteside and addressed his level of effort after he was benched for nearly the entire second half of Miami's loss at Golden State.

Zaza Pachulia made an uncontested layup early in the second half while Whiteside was arguing with an official, which led to the benching.


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Post#519 » by humanrefutation » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:16 pm

What are the protections on the 2nd?
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Post#520 » by Turk Nowitzki » Tue Nov 7, 2017 6:17 pm

BucksStatsGuy wrote:Great trade. Did what a teams should do when they know the partner has no leverage whatsoever. Pretty good trade for the Suns too, honestly, considering the situation. I've always been a big Bledsoe fan, and he's the type of swing you would like to take. If he's even 80% of his top self, that's a damn good player, and the impact is even greater due to the shift in minutes from below replacement players to capable ones.

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