Indiana Pacers Draft Pick Watch Thread

RiotPunch · Post #501 » by **RiotPunch** » Fri May 22, 2020 9:41 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Also, if you're looking for a Pat Connaughton clone, Desmond Bane is your guy:

Watch on YouTube

Interesting comp. I see more of a 'high IQ, better shooting Sterling' when I watch Bane. Elite team defender, low usage deadly shooter, very strong, very smart. He and Pat coming into the game together with the 2nd unit would be fun. I've been on the Banewagon for awhile now, Top-25 prospect for me.

emunney · Post #502 » by **emunney** » Sat May 23, 2020 1:39 am

I think Bane has a lot in common as a prospect with guys like Crabbe and Middleton. All three have very different bodies of course, but nice balance to their offensive skillsets, none of them twitchy enough to spend much time in the paint, solid and committed defensively. Middleton panned out, Crabbe panned out juuuust enough to get a big payday under freak circumstances.

RiotPunch · Post #503 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat May 23, 2020 6:17 am

emunney wrote:I think Bane has a lot in common as a prospect with guys like Crabbe and Middleton. All three have very different bodies of course, but nice balance to their offensive skillsets, none of them twitchy enough to spend much time in the paint, solid and committed defensively. Middleton panned out, Crabbe panned out juuuust enough to get a big payday under freak circumstances.

Kind of the one contract only mold if things work out. Middleton hit supernova in the mold, developing shot creation off the dribble, but yeah Crabbe was a great guy to have until his payday came. I would draft Bane knowing he'd be a valuable rotation 3&D wing on a rookie scale, and either trading him or letting him walk before his next contract, unless he developed an outlier ability like Khris did.

He's really good right now, which is a plan I'm down with versus a project play. The right project of course could entice though, a la Poku or Jaden.

Post #504 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat May 23, 2020 3:50 pm

You guys have convinced me on Bane, but literally only because his name is Bane.

RiotPunch · Post #505 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat May 23, 2020 10:04 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:You guys have convinced me on Bane, but literally only because his name is Bane.

M-C-G · Post #506 » by **M-C-G** » Sat May 23, 2020 10:38 pm

Just spent an exhaustive 8 minutes thoroughly evaluating Bane, by listening to other people talk about him. I get such a great Brogdon vibe with him, that he is a guy that goes too late because the potential isn't there, but then in two years, he is a top 10 pick on the 'redraft'.

I'd love to see him be our pick. I don't see us asking him to do things that fall in his weakness bucket, and his range looks incredible. What a great piece to add, to maybe be your next Brogdon or dare I say it.....Korver?

Badgerlander · Post #507 » by **Badgerlander** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:51 am

emunney wrote:I think Bane has a lot in common as a prospect with guys like Crabbe and Middleton. All three have very different bodies of course, but nice balance to their offensive skillsets, none of them twitchy enough to spend much time in the paint, solid and committed defensively. Middleton panned out, Crabbe panned out juuuust enough to get a big payday under freak circumstances.

But Mids has always had the dribble into the one leg contested midrange shot that he never misses

Middleton's ability to score off the dribble from the mid-range remains his most important skill as both a college player and NBA prospect, and he showed continued success in that area this past season. He possesses excellent creativity and feel in this area of his game, while being very comfortable finding small windows to get off shot attempts while blanketed by defenders. Middleton's first step off the dribble is not very impressive and he rarely gets past his man in isolation situations, but he still gets off a variety of shots in the lane ranging from runners to floaters to pull-up jumpers. Despite just average length, he has a very high release point on these moves and requires very little space to get off his attempts. From isolation situations, Middleton's efficiency is outstanding at the college level, as his 1.043 points per possessions according to Synergy ranks in the 91st percentile. Middleton's high level of efficiency scoring the ball in isolations is certainly a coveted skill from an NBA perspective, but there are some concerns projecting this area of his game to the next level. For one, given the finesse, mid-range nature of his game and how he relies heavily on scoring closely contested looks, there are questions if he will can maintain similar success against the bigger, more athletic opponents he'll face on nearly every possession. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Khris-Middleton-6332/ ©DraftExpress

BroncoBuck · Post #508 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sun May 24, 2020 1:48 pm

Chad Ford and John Hollinger put out some pretty solid draft material over the last few weeks on their podcast.

BroncoBuck · Post #509 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sun May 24, 2020 1:55 pm

I’m starting to come around to Tyrese Maxey. He’s more of a combo guard than a true point, but with the ball movement in this offense I don’t think that’s a problem at all. He’s a very good shooter and a pretty good athlete.

I think he could develop into a George Hill type player if he hits.

RiotPunch · Post #510 » by **RiotPunch** » Sun May 24, 2020 7:34 pm

I have Maxey in my Top-5. Absolutely love him as a high floor 2-way guard with a considerably high ceiling.

Hollinger has him ranked 26th I think? Yikes.

BroncoBuck · Post #511 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:04 pm

RiotPunch wrote:I have Maxey in my Top-5. Absolutely love him as a high floor 2-way guard with a considerably high ceiling.

Hollinger has him ranked 26th I think? Yikes.

Yeah, I’m really into him as a pro prospect. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him go top 10 or end of the first. I think the consensus is just outside the lottery, but teams love guys who can shoot the ball so who knows.

RiotPunch · Post #512 » by **RiotPunch** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:08 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:I have Maxey in my Top-5. Absolutely love him as a high floor 2-way guard with a considerably high ceiling.

Hollinger has him ranked 26th I think? Yikes.

Yeah, I’m really into him as a pro prospect. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him go top 10 or end of the first. I think the consensus is just outside the lottery, but teams love guys who can shoot the ball so who knows.

Really hoping he slips to our range. I think the consensus perception is that he can't shoot, based on his season at Kentucky. I personally think he'll be a good to very good shooter on/off ball, excellent finisher due to his strength and feathery touch and a bulldog at the point of attack on defense. Great character guy with the clutch gene on top of it all and he's my favorite guy for the Bucks (after Killian).

emunney · Post #513 » by **emunney** » Mon May 25, 2020 2:06 am

Maxey is tough as hell. You have to check out that game against Georgia if you haven't. He's just a gamer.

hillchaser · Post #514 » by **hillchaser** » Mon May 25, 2020 3:37 am

I like Maxey and Achiuwa which are mocked below our pick. Else I would be up for whoever is available from Stewart and Carey in that order.

Also I haven't posted for a long time but it just makes me crazy that we drafted DJ over John Collins a few years ago. Collins was productive in college and was a no brainer for a power forward/Centre over DJ. :crazy:

RiotPunch · Post #515 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon May 25, 2020 4:32 am

hillchaser wrote:I like Maxey and Achiuwa which are mocked below our pick. Else I would be up for whoever is available from Stewart and Carey in that order.

Also I haven't posted for a long time but it just makes me crazy that we drafted DJ over John Collins a few years ago. Collins was productive in college and was a no brainer for a power forward/Centre over DJ.

I would not spend a 1st on Precious, Stewart or Carey.

hillchaser · Post #516 » by **hillchaser** » Mon May 25, 2020 5:05 am

I think Stewart will be a role player as a floor ... I don't see much risk spending pick 19.

BroncoBuck · Post #517 » by **BroncoBuck** » Mon May 25, 2020 1:49 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:I have Maxey in my Top-5. Absolutely love him as a high floor 2-way guard with a considerably high ceiling.

Hollinger has him ranked 26th I think? Yikes.

Yeah, I’m really into him as a pro prospect. I wouldn’t be shocked to see him go top 10 or end of the first. I think the consensus is just outside the lottery, but teams love guys who can shoot the ball so who knows.

Really hoping he slips to our range. I think the consensus perception is that he can't shoot, based on his season at Kentucky. I personally think he'll be a good to very good shooter on/off ball, excellent finisher due to his strength and feathery touch and a bulldog at the point of attack on defense. Great character guy with the clutch gene on top of it all and he's my favorite guy for the Bucks (after Killian).

Yeah his form is so nice and his free throw shooting has been so good that I think his shot is there. Tankathon has his 3 point percentage as a big knock against him, but then projects his NBA 3pt percentage as 35% lol. Hopefully he falls our way.

German Athens · Post #518 » by **German Athens** » Mon May 25, 2020 2:03 pm

What do you guys make of Bolmaro’s jumper long term? I love a lot of the rest of the package he brings.

M-C-G · Post #519 » by **M-C-G** » Mon May 25, 2020 3:00 pm

German Athens wrote:What do you guys make of Bolmaro’s jumper long term? I love a lot of the rest of the package he brings.

WAS literally just watching some of him and came here to talk. There is so much I like about his game, and I think he has a lot of room to grow athletically. Jumper off the dribble looks solid, but I have only watched about 15 minutes of breakdowns on him.

Feel for the game seems really good, which would fit with our roster construction.

Jumper seems like something that can improve with reps, I mean that to say it isn't broken.

Not sure he gives you much in year one, but he can do a lot of stuff that Middleton can in terms of a being a secondary playmaker, and create for others. I think that is something this roster could definitely use more of. In general, I want to add a more high IQ, high effort type guys while we have Giannis. And this draft seems to have quite a few, albeit very different type guys.

For where we are drafting and who I think may be available
1. Bolmaro
2. Nesmith
3. Bane
4. S. Bey
5. T. Bey

RiotPunch · Post #520 » by **RiotPunch** » Tue May 26, 2020 9:31 am

hillchaser wrote:I think Stewart will be a role player as a floor ... I don't see much risk spending pick 19.

That is his ceiling, IMO. No vertical pop, horrible movement skills, bad decision maker. Poor man's Enes Kanter.

If you want an undersized center without vertical pop, Xavier Tillman is a far better option because he is brilliant in other areas.