2022 NBA Draft - Prospects Discussion

[Badgerlander]

12+ is extremely rare for a non-center, and uncommon even for centers.

Anyway, Minott is a very interesting sleeper, and I think if you really believe in him and he's there at 24, you don't assume you'll be able to get him later. He's got tools and if he impressed in interviews, he'll be gone. Would compare him to Jarred Vanderbilt before Jones, but somewhere in there is where he'll have to earn his role.

DJ Wilson and Thon both touched 12’2”

Too true. He's got better hands than Thon (who doesn't) and better effort level and physicality than DJ. I think a better pick than either were at the time, although I punted on evaluating Thon that year (DJ was undraftable to me).

You had me at Vanderbilt lol. I like Minott, I’d be down. Seems like a good kid. Athletic, long, great feet and hands.

[emunney]

Yeah, difference is that DJ was a junior putting up mediocre production and Minott is a freshman (albeit an older one) with some eye-popping per-40 numbers (18/10/2/2/2 on 57% TS). He's not really a guy I had considered a whole lot in the 1st round, but if that shooting is real then he becomes a lot more of a realistic option at #24. With him you're banking on getting a guy who, if he blows up with more playing time as a sophomore, probably gets talked up as a late-lotto/mid-1st type talent this time next year. Could be a really nice gamble.

I have a hard time believing the jumper is real just because it looked SO bad at Memphis.

[Badgerlander]

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[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, difference is that DJ was a junior putting up mediocre production and Minott is a freshman (albeit an older one) with some eye-popping per-40 numbers (18/10/2/2/2 on 57% TS). He's not really a guy I had considered a whole lot in the 1st round, but if that shooting is real then he becomes a lot more of a realistic option at #24. With him you're banking on getting a guy who, if he blows up with more playing time as a sophomore, probably gets talked up as a late-lotto/mid-1st type talent this time next year. Could be a really nice gamble.

I have a hard time believing the jumper is real just because it looked SO bad at Memphis.

Pretty much why I wrote him off as a 1st round grade initially. The side hitch thing in his jumper is super weird, but I also think it's fixable? Only took 14 attempts from beyond the college line, and it's not like he was lost at the line (75%). Don't think the mechanics are broken as much as they simply need to be tweaked. He'll never be a pull-up threat or anything but maybe it's a Shawn Marion/Lonzo Ball/Chris Boucher thing where as long as it goes in, I'm not too worried about style points.

[machu46]

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I don’t blame teams for being kinda scared by him in the lottery but man if he actually falls to us I would be beside myself if we pass.


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[Ron Swanson]

Mind-boggling to me if Eason falls into the 20's. In a draft with no clear, Tier-1 superstar type prospects, I wouldn't hesitate to spend a Top-10 pick on him and be thrilled that I may have gotten the best player in the draft. Outside of being an older sophomore, what's not to like? Crazy production (28/11/3 per-40) and efficiency (61.5% TS) against good competition. Can shoot and defend almost every position. If he even slips past #13 I'm doing whatever I can to move up and grab him.

[emunney]

Mind-boggling to me if Eason falls into the 20's. In a draft with no clear, Tier-1 superstar type prospects, I wouldn't hesitate to spend a Top-10 pick on him and be thrilled that I may have gotten the best player in the draft. Outside of being an older sophomore, what's not to like? Crazy production (28/11/3 per-40) and efficiency (61.5% TS) against good competition. Can shoot and defend almost every position. If he even slips past #13 I'm doing whatever I can to move up and grab him.

It's weird, man. The holes people poke in his game (there are some big holes: no off hand, low/slow release, passing) seem to be contextual to the assumption that he's a different level of prospect than other guys. Like, "He's got a lot to overcome to become a perennial all-star". Where with other guys you're like, "Can he do anything at a NBA level?"

[machu46]

Mind-boggling to me if Eason falls into the 20's. In a draft with no clear, Tier-1 superstar type prospects, I wouldn't hesitate to spend a Top-10 pick on him and be thrilled that I may have gotten the best player in the draft. Outside of being an older sophomore, what's not to like? Crazy production (28/11/3 per-40) and efficiency (61.5% TS) against good competition. Can shoot and defend almost every position. If he even slips past #13 I'm doing whatever I can to move up and grab him.

It's weird, man. The holes people poke in his game (there are some big holes: no off hand, low/slow release, passing) seem to be contextual to the assumption that he's a different level of prospect than other guys. Like, "He's got a lot to overcome to become a perennial all-star". Where with other guys you're like, "Can he do anything at a NBA level?"

This is obviously a bit of an exaggeration re: the other prospects but I do agree someone should take the chance on him before the 20s. I think his particular flaws are the kinda things that generally scare teams though so I kinda get it even if I think he’s worth it.


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[Badgerlander]

Teams talk themselves into taking Chriss #8, Wilson #17, etc. wouldn’t shock me if some teams have Minott higher on their board than Eason.

[Ron Swanson]

Any Ryan Rollins fans out there? 6'4 with a 6'9 wingspan combo guard. I think the 3PT shooting is misleading (32%) because he takes a lot of pull-up and off-the-dribble stuff. Serious Jordan Clarkson vibes, but probably has better potential as a secondary play-maker.

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[emunney]

Mock draft rundown for #24:
ESPN (5/31): Kessler
nbadraft.net (6/5): Ousmane Dieng
The Ringer (5/17): Chandler
Tankathon (5/31): Kessler
SI (5/6): Beauchamp
Bleacher Report (5/31): LaRavia

[machu46]

Mock draft rundown for #24:
ESPN (5/31): Kessler
nbadraft.net (6/5): Ousmane Dieng
The Ringer (5/17): Chandler
Tankathon (5/31): Kessler
SI (5/6): Beauchamp
Bleacher Report (5/31): LaRavia

Idk what I’ll do with myself if Beauchamp falls into our lap and we actually take him


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[emunney]

I'm checking out some FSU games and when the bitrate drops John Butler's arms and legs disappear, not joking.

[Ron Swanson]

Mock draft rundown for #24:
ESPN (5/31): Kessler
nbadraft.net (6/5): Ousmane Dieng
The Ringer (5/17): Chandler
Tankathon (5/31): Kessler
SI (5/6): Beauchamp
Bleacher Report (5/31): LaRavia

This is like, the darkest timeline collection of prospects for me. Gross.

[Prez]

So if we come out of this draft with one of the following I’ll be happy.

Jalen Williams
Eason
Liddell
Beauchamp

Probably have to trade up to get one of the first two though so I’m pretty sure that’s not happening

[emunney]

Mind-boggling to me if Eason falls into the 20's. In a draft with no clear, Tier-1 superstar type prospects, I wouldn't hesitate to spend a Top-10 pick on him and be thrilled that I may have gotten the best player in the draft. Outside of being an older sophomore, what's not to like? Crazy production (28/11/3 per-40) and efficiency (61.5% TS) against good competition. Can shoot and defend almost every position. If he even slips past #13 I'm doing whatever I can to move up and grab him.

It's weird, man. The holes people poke in his game (there are some big holes: no off hand, low/slow release, passing) seem to be contextual to the assumption that he's a different level of prospect than other guys. Like, "He's got a lot to overcome to become a perennial all-star". Where with other guys you're like, "Can he do anything at a NBA level?"

This is obviously a bit of an exaggeration re: the other prospects but I do agree someone should take the chance on him before the 20s. I think his particular flaws are the kinda things that generally scare teams though so I kinda get it even if I think he’s worth it.


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Didn't intend for it to be an exaggeration. I've had that thought about around a third of the guys I see consistently locked in the 1st round, and it doesn't necessarily mean I don't like their prospects. With Eason it's like make an ok amount of spot up 3s and you're golden.

[emunney]

The downside is like Corey Maggette who defends his ass off.

[Licensed to Il]

The downside is like Corey Maggette who defends his ass off.

Remember the Bucks regime that rationalized the Maggette acquisition by explaining we were bad as a team at drawing free throws, and Corey was great at drawing free throws? And they seemingly didn’t know that he didn’t pass, defend, or shoot well from distance?

That was sort of the era when analytics were more primitive than a Don Rickles joke.

[Badgerlander]

The more I watch Eason the more my feelings are going to be hurt when we don’t get him

[German Athens]

I’m starting to think Dalen Terry won’t be available at 24.