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Griffin fired!- Doc Hired - Joerger likely on his way

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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#501 » by MissKhriddleton » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:16 pm

Are you allowed to strucure a one year deal with a guaranteed bonus that is basically this?

1st Round: 1 million
2nd Round: 2 million
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Finals: 8 million
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#502 » by jimmybones » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:17 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:Honestly not concerned about deal length. Our owners are clearly willing to cut their losses when Horst (or they) decides we need to.

I'm sure they don't WANT to give away more money than they need to, but if we do sign Doc for four years or whatever, I'm 0.0% convinced we're actually locked-up. Like, we just fired our (train wreck) coach in exactly half of a season.


I get that but I think it was emunney that has mentioned how yet another firing is likely to sour candidates desire to take this job. And if they fire 3 coaches in 2 years, 2 that have won rings, how does that not make the job less appealing?
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#503 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:17 pm

MissKhriddleton wrote:Are you allowed to strucure a one year deal with a guaranteed bonus that is basically this?

1st Round: 1 million
2nd Round: 2 million
3rd: Round: 4 million
Finals: 8 million


ARe there "rules" for coaching contracts? Feels like you can do anything. They gave George Karl part ownership.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#504 » by PG Graveyard » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:18 pm

Well at least we know now that Giannis really doesn’t like Nurse for some reason
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#505 » by Shaffty » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:18 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:So who does doc throw under the bus in late April?



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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#506 » by MrHoneycutt » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:18 pm

It may come down to this:

Please, please let Doc bungle this by demanding a long-term deal which causes the FO to pivot to Kenny.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#507 » by MissKhriddleton » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:19 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:So who does doc throw under the bus in late April?

CP3 and Embiid.
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Post#508 » by JayMKE » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:19 pm

we don't even get Sam Cassell as an assistant with midseason Doc hire
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#509 » by BJ Sandered » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:19 pm

Good news! Very good news.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#510 » by JayMKE » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:21 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:Kendrick Perkins or somebody on ESPN made a good point in saying that all of Doc's assistants are with teams already. I guess that will go for anybody the Bucks hire, though.


i imagine that's part of what consultant Doc has been working on the last month

or at least it should have been, idk wtf advice he's been giving Griff
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#511 » by PANDEMONEUM » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:22 pm

Just need some improvement in timeouts, substitutions, play calling.
Doc should be better at those things.
Less defensive focus on 3p shots, should improve those open drives to the lane. But there will b a cost there also.
We will still need to outscore everyone.
Doesn't matter if we make 1 trade for a defensive player.
Just hope that's all enough to win a Cship.
Or, Dame and Giannis carry everyone to a Cship....like Jrue and G did for our Cship

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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#512 » by msiris » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:23 pm

JUST SAY NO TO RIVERS.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#513 » by -Jragon- » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:23 pm

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Dick Tate wrote:Kudos to MKE_design for the early early heads-up.


Where and when was this? Which thread was the tip? That's awesome

Dec 12th Bulls PG thread.
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MVP2110 wrote: Like he's legit getting fired or he's on the hot seat if they don't improve?


This person I know is well connected. There’s concerns about my trust just because they usually don’t say much, I don’t know them that well, so I don’t really know what to make of it. There’s no timeline so I would read this as turbulence - does that result in a firing at any moment? Probably, if this is accurate.


Wow so we've had over a month to find a dude... someone is already otw.. Prunty might get a game or 2 before it's announced to respect Griff
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#514 » by jimmybones » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:25 pm

Imagine they determined Doc should be the guy (I'm not backing that as the right choice) and not being able to land him because of contract terms lmao
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#515 » by sidney lanier » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:25 pm

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    A. Griffin .698
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#516 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:25 pm

jimmybones wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:Honestly not concerned about deal length. Our owners are clearly willing to cut their losses when Horst (or they) decides we need to.

I'm sure they don't WANT to give away more money than they need to, but if we do sign Doc for four years or whatever, I'm 0.0% convinced we're actually locked-up. Like, we just fired our (train wreck) coach in exactly half of a season.


I get that but I think it was emunney that has mentioned how yet another firing is likely to sour candidates desire to take this job. And if they fire 3 coaches in 2 years, 2 that have won rings, how does that not make the job less appealing?


And I get that for sure, but I'm not convinced that would keep coaches from the opportunity to coach Giannis and Dame.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#517 » by MissKhriddleton » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:26 pm

For Sid:

Upon the court, a coach in strife,
Lost in troubles, a troubled life.
Defeats and angst, a heavy load,
His reign of triumph hit the road.

The owners spoke, "It's time to part,
For victories flee, and troubles start."
In sorrow, the coach left behind,
A legacy of a troubled kind.

Enter a doctor, wise and clear,
Not with a ball, but healing ear.
Grief transformed, a brighter day,
The court revived, in a hopeful play.

No longer lost, the coach's plight,
With health restored, and spirits light.
A tale of triumph, a lesson true,
How grief can fade, and dreams renew.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#518 » by Frank Nova » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:28 pm

buckboy wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:
buckboy wrote:
Because there are degrees of bad?


That’s worth being excited? I wanted Griffin fired just like every other Bucks fan with half a brain, I didn’t want him hired in the 1st place. I was a huge advocate for Kenny Atkinson when they named the final 3 and wanted Chris Quinn most of all if we were going to go the rookie HC route. But 1 name I never wanted to even be a possibility was Doc Rivers and for good reason, he’s an absolute **** coach. And here we are. So what’s everyone so excited about? We got it wrong twice, yay?


Again, as has been stated many times, I doubt anyone is excited for Rivers, but he's better than Griffin. I'm with you, I'd prefer Atkinson or D'Antoni, or several other guys, but today is a good day whether they hire Rivers or not. It would definitely be better if it wasn't Rivers, I agree.


I guess it is premature to just immediately let the possibility of a bad thing ruin the moment. It’s certainly a good thing the FO had the stones to fire Griff now and not completely waste the season away letting him just wing it and ride Giannis and Dame to wins against bad teams. Whether it’s Doc or not I won’t ever stop being a fan of the team so I’ll have to just ride the wave and hope for the best just like a few months ago when we hired Griffin and I had no idea what we were in for. The carousel continues for now, I’m just not very excited about Doc tho. Hiring him puts a huge damper on my excitement level unfortunately. Who knows tho, maybe/hopefully I’m wrong because I wouldn’t be mad about that lol.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#519 » by GoldenAntlers » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:28 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Barkley. I know we want HC experience and not another rookie HC but man that would be fun.

At this point, I'd probably be okay with it for the rest of the season.
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Re: Griffin fired!-Prunty interim 

Post#520 » by MrHoneycutt » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:29 pm

MissKhriddleton wrote:For Sid:

Upon the court, a coach in strife,
Lost in troubles, a troubled life.
Defeats and angst, a heavy load,
His reign of triumph hit the road.

The owners spoke, "It's time to part,
For victories flee, and troubles start."
In sorrow, the coach left behind,
A legacy of a troubled kind.

Enter a doctor, wise and clear,
Not with a ball, but healing ear.
Grief transformed, a brighter day,
The court revived, in a hopeful play.

No longer lost, the coach's plight,
With health restored, and spirits light.
A tale of triumph, a lesson true,
How grief can fade, and dreams renew.


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