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Baddy Chuck · Post #521 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:29 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Surprised this board wasn't more about milos. Seems like a better shooting worst defending Rubio.

Really wish we could've pried jerry west. Love his moves so far.

He was talked about a little bit but the reports were that he wanted like $10++ million a year to come over. The deal he got is almost no risk, great pickup by LA.

Badgerlander · Post #522 » by **Badgerlander** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 12:31 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Surprised this board wasn't more about milos. Seems like a better shooting worst defending Rubio.

Really wish we could've pried jerry west. Love his moves so far.

Milos will be great with DeAndre there to cover up his defense, if we played Milos with Monroe we'd be down 20 in a hick-up

3Diamantidis · Post #523 » by **3Diamantidis** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:05 pm

Fotis St wrote:THJ is a starter SG/SF. He would be a starter in most NBA Teams.
Snell is a starter SG/SF. He wouldn't be a starter in most NBA Teams.

Both have still room to grow, there is some upside left for both.

None of the two is a starting SG/SF.
Snell started for the bucks because middleton was injured and continued as a starter because jabari got injured.
He will start again this season because jabari is still injured and because the bucks cannot afford to acquire a starter.

Hardaway Jr started for the hawks because korver was getting older and because korver was traded afterwards.

Both should be regarded as 6th guys/solid backups.

11mil for a backup ain't great but it ain't a disaster as well(unless your name is henson).
18mil for a backup is gross.

The bucks are paying monroe 18mil p/y to play 20 mins. That's a BAD contract(no matter if we want monroe here now because we've seen what the rest of the bucks centers worth) but it expires in 1 year.

If the knicks got hardaway jr for starting SG then...LOL even more.

Beorn · Post #524 » by **Beorn** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:09 pm

Milos wouldn't be a realistic option with our dumbass FO, ofc we would love to have him here.

3Diamantidis · Post #525 » by **3Diamantidis** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:11 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Surprised this board wasn't more about milos. Seems like a better shooting worst defending Rubio.

Really wish we could've pried jerry west. Love his moves so far.

He's more flashy than rubio and better shooter.
But he's a way worse defender and older.
He won't be able to cope with guys like westbrook/schroder/wall/kemba/IT/irving so i'm guessing beverley will take the starting slot.

Unless doc uses them both at backcourt, in which scenario i dunno how thwy will blend.

In the end of the day, i like him way more than rubio and in europe he always was better than rubio but that has to do with the style of bball i prefer to watch(i want my guards to be able to shoot).
Others will go with rubio for different reasons.

Pachinko_ · Post #526 » by **Pachinko_** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:23 pm

Teodosic will get absolutely crucified in D, especially if they make the POs he'll get targeted in every possession.
He should have made his move at 25, give his body a year or two to catch up with the league somewhat. And give up smoking.

Also his offense will benefit a little by the bigger court and spacing, but the problem is that ball and team movement in the NBA is totally different to Europe. There will be possessions where there will simply be neither ball nor team movement, and people will expect him to ISO and do his thing because that's just the stupidity of the NBA, it can't be helped.
And he's just not the guy for this, he needs people to move.

If they're smart they will find some sort of a role for him, but the Clips are not very smart and this can easily end badly.

Fotis St · Post #527 » by **Fotis St** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:26 pm

3Diamantidis wrote:
Fotis St wrote:THJ is a starter SG/SF. He would be a starter in most NBA Teams.
Snell is a starter SG/SF. He wouldn't be a starter in most NBA Teams.

Both have still room to grow, there is some upside left for both.

None of the two is a starting SG/SF.
Snell started for the bucks because middleton was injured and continued as a starter because jabari got injured.
He will start again this season because jabari is still injured and because the bucks cannot afford to acquire a starter.

Hardaway Jr started for the hawks because korver was getting older and because korver was traded afterwards.

Both should be regarded as 6th guys/solid backups.

11mil for a backup ain't great but it ain't a disaster as well(unless your name is henson).
18mil for a backup is gross.

The bucks are paying monroe 18mil p/y to play 20 mins. That's a BAD contract(no matter if we want monroe here now because we've seen what the rest of the bucks centers worth) but it expires in 1 year.

If the knicks got hardaway jr for starting SG then...LOL even more.

How smart of you to avoid the Beal-THJ comparison.

Agree to disagree.

Let's move on.

3Diamantidis · Post #528 » by **3Diamantidis** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:28 pm

Fotis St wrote:
3Diamantidis wrote:
Fotis St wrote:THJ is a starter SG/SF. He would be a starter in most NBA Teams.
Snell is a starter SG/SF. He wouldn't be a starter in most NBA Teams.

Both have still room to grow, there is some upside left for both.

None of the two is a starting SG/SF.
Snell started for the bucks because middleton was injured and continued as a starter because jabari got injured.
He will start again this season because jabari is still injured and because the bucks cannot afford to acquire a starter.

Hardaway Jr started for the hawks because korver was getting older and because korver was traded afterwards.

Both should be regarded as 6th guys/solid backups.

11mil for a backup ain't great but it ain't a disaster as well(unless your name is henson).
18mil for a backup is gross.

The bucks are paying monroe 18mil p/y to play 20 mins. That's a BAD contract(no matter if we want monroe here now because we've seen what the rest of the bucks centers worth) but it expires in 1 year.

If the knicks got hardaway jr for starting SG then...LOL even more.

How smart of you to avoid the Beal-THJ comparison.

Agree to disagree.

Let's move on.

Are you seriously going to compare beal and hardaway jr? :roll:

3Diamantidis · Post #529 » by **3Diamantidis** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:29 pm

Beorn wrote:Milos wouldn't be a realistic option with our dumbass FO, ofc we would love to have him here.

Trust me he's not the guy for the starting PG. Sergio Rodriguez didn't make it either at sixers, so....

Fotis St · Post #530 » by **Fotis St** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:36 pm

3Diamantidis wrote:Are you seriously going to compare beal and hardaway jr?

I did in my previous post.

Check Beal's stats before becoming RFA year ('15-16) and THJ ('16-'17)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Tim+Hardaway&player_id1_select=Tim+Hardaway&player_id1=hardati02&y1=2017&player_id2_hint=Bradley+Beal&player_id2_select=Bradley+Beal&y2=2016&player_id2=bealbr01&idx=players

skones · Post #531 » by **skones** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:36 pm

Look at the Heat doing their best impression of Kohl's Bucks. 40+ million to Olynyk/JJ/Waiters. **** me sideways.

M-C-G · Post #532 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:50 pm

M-C-G wrote:Pat Riley getting busy yesterday. But feels awfully Herb-esque locking up a bunch of role players to long term deals

skones wrote:Look at the Heat doing their best impression of Kohl's Bucks. 40+ million to Olynyk/JJ/Waiters. **** me sideways.

Hey now, find some original content of your own!

Pachinko_ · Post #533 » by **Pachinko_** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:53 pm

3Diamantidis wrote:
Beorn wrote:Milos wouldn't be a realistic option with our dumbass FO, ofc we would love to have him here.

Trust me he's not the guy for the starting PG. Sergio Rodriguez didn't make it either at sixers, so....

I thought Rodriguez was ok for the Sixers, but they had to make room for Fultz and some Simmons at point and (correctly) keep the younger TJ McConnell as backup

Rodriguez will actually take Teodosic's place at CSKA Moscow

Post #534 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:56 pm

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skones · Post #535 » by **skones** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:57 pm

M-C-G wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Pat Riley getting busy yesterday. But feels awfully Herb-esque locking up a bunch of role players to long term deals

skones wrote:Look at the Heat doing their best impression of Kohl's Bucks. 40+ million to Olynyk/JJ/Waiters. **** me sideways.

Hey now, find some original content of your own!

You bite your tongue.

Matches Malone · Post #536 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 1:58 pm

Guess KCP to the Nets will happen.

emunney · Post #537 » by **emunney** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:00 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Guess KCP to the Nets will happen.

Nets should probably come in lower with the offer now.

Ron Swanson · Post #538 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:07 pm

Bradley's an expiring and could bolt in FA next offseason, but damn, that's a pretty cheap price to pay for a pretty good 3&D wing. Celtics have way too many SF's now.

bdpecore · Post #539 » by **bdpecore** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:12 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Bradley's an expiring and could bolt in FA next offseason, but damn, that's a pretty cheap price to pay for a pretty good 3&D wing. Celtics have way too many SF's now.

I'm guessing Crowder still gets sent to Utah for Hayward. Can Morris play any PF?

M-C-G · Post #540 » by **M-C-G** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 2:15 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Bradley's an expiring and could bolt in FA next offseason, but damn, that's a pretty cheap price to pay for a pretty good 3&D wing. Celtics have way too many SF's now.

I'm guessing Crowder still gets sent to Utah for Hayward. Can Morris play any PF?

I was wondering if they did this so they could move him to utah as part of the S&T