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[Baddy Chuck]

Just found out Memphis attached a first for the Wizards to take Smart and I'm wondering how he couldn't have ended up a Buck at the end of all this wheeling and dealing

We traded one dude who couldn't stay on the court and didn't want to replace him with one who is on the court even less.

[machu46]

Can't.

Why? Thought they had their MLE now being under 2nd apron

Can't sign buyout guys making more than MLE over any apron I believe.

Yeah, had to ask a friend of mine today and they told me the same thing.

[Daver]

Can't.

Why? Thought they had their MLE now being under 2nd apron

Can't sign buyout guys making more than MLE over any apron I believe.

So anyone less than 12 million bucks csn sign.yes?If sothey could find a pretty good player

[Bernman]

Where's that follow-up move we were promised? That was a deflection from some. And others, I assume, are good people...

The Kuzma move is just gradations of bad either way. His best version isn't near as good as Khris was last playoffs, & it might not be at the level of the version we saw this yr. It lowers our playoff ceiling & floor. Gave up a 1st rd prospect & pick swap to boot.

That said, Kuzma's consistently been a 54+% ts guy up until this yr where DC made no illusions about not tanking. That's still a mediocre #, but not atrocious like this season. And I expect him to shoot moderately better here than he ever has. Beasley posted his career high, better than the Lakers. Same has gone for Prince. Bobby came from bad teams to post career highs here.

My only concern w/ him being the outlier is his chunkiness. He needs to get on Dame's Navy Seal boxercise routine to be shredded for the playoffs. Still, the roster's weird. Horst didn't address multiple needs. He's always been a bad GM, many are realizing.

[Baddy Chuck]

Why? Thought they had their MLE now being under 2nd apron

Can't sign buyout guys making more than MLE over any apron I believe.

So anyone less than 12 million bucks csn sign.yes?If sothey could find a pretty good player

Something like that number yeah.

[BigO]

This was a disaster of a trade deadline.

Cleveland- trade to help win championship
Clippers-trade to help win championship
Warriors-trade to helpwin championship
Lakers-trade to help win championship
Bucks-trade to get under second apron at the expense of having any possibility of winning a championship

Khris was out last regular season and was the best Buck in the playoffs.

Khris at 80% of his best makes the Bucks a threat to win again. No guarantees on his health, but that risk is better than having no chance to win it.

This was a money decision. If Horst says this move was to make the Bucks better, then he should be fired before he finishes the sentence.

Khris could pass and shoot efficiently at a high level. Kuzma can't do any of that.

This idolatry of athleticism is ridiculous. This isn't track and field. Playoffs are a half court game.

[jakecronus8]

Some of you internet justice warriors need to read the article I linked where KPJs gf literally said he didn't hit her and the prosecutor had it out for him.

Doesnt matter their minds are already made up on the guy

Guessing you haven't been around many women who were victims of DV. The whole "I fell" thing is the go-to.

I don't care that my posts get deleted. I have no time for domestic abusers no matter how good they play sports ball and even if it is for the geographically closest to me team.

[buckboy]

Acquiring Kuzma and not trading Portis is my only real complaint.

Just dumb roster construction.

[MickeyDavis]

This was a disaster of a trade deadline.

Cleveland- trade to help win championship
Clippers-trade to help win championship
Warriors-trade to helpwin championship
Lakers-trade to help win championship
Bucks-trade to get under second apron at the expense of having any possibility of winning a championship

Khris was out last regular season and was the best Buck in the playoffs.

Khris at 80% of his best makes the Bucks a threat to win again. No guarantees on his health, but that risk is better than having no chance to win it.

This was a money decision. If Horst says this move was to make the Bucks better, then he should be fired before he finishes the sentence.

Khris could pass and shoot efficiently at a high level. Kuzma can't do any of that.

This idolatry of athleticism is ridiculous. This isn't track and field. Playoffs are a half court game.

Agree with all of this except the bolded part. This wasn't about saving money. Our owners spend big and we are still way over the cap. Reducing payroll under the second apron gives us some flexibility this summer (and makes sure our '31 pick remains unfrozen). So reducing payroll a bit did save money but saving money wasn't the objective.

[Profound23]

Portis is going to opt out and get a bigger contract this off-season. Lopez will be off the books.

Problem will be, we better replace them wisely or Dame opts out and leaves.

[Daver]

This was a disaster of a trade deadline.

Cleveland- trade to help win championship
Clippers-trade to help win championship
Warriors-trade to helpwin championship
Lakers-trade to help win championship
Bucks-trade to get under second apron at the expense of having any possibility of winning a championship

Khris was out last regular season and was the best Buck in the playoffs.

Khris at 80% of his best makes the Bucks a threat to win again. No guarantees on his health, but that risk is better than having no chance to win it.

This was a money decision. If Horst says this move was to make the Bucks better, then he should be fired before he finishes the sentence.

Khris could pass and shoot efficiently at a high level. Kuzma can't do any of that.

This idolatry of athleticism is ridiculous. This isn't track and field. Playoffs are a half court game.

Agree with all of this except the bolded part. This wasn't about saving money. Our owners spend big and we are still way over the cap. Reducing payroll under the second apron gives us some flexibility this summer (and makes sure our '31 pick remains unfrozen).

I read it was our 2032 frp rhat was frozen being over the 2nd cap n now we have 2 ftps we can use

[Plossum]

This was a disaster of a trade deadline.

Cleveland- trade to help win championship
Clippers-trade to help win championship
Warriors-trade to helpwin championship
Lakers-trade to help win championship
Bucks-trade to get under second apron at the expense of having any possibility of winning a championship

Khris was out last regular season and was the best Buck in the playoffs.

Khris at 80% of his best makes the Bucks a threat to win again. No guarantees on his health, but that risk is better than having no chance to win it.

This was a money decision. If Horst says this move was to make the Bucks better, then he should be fired before he finishes the sentence.

Khris could pass and shoot efficiently at a high level. Kuzma can't do any of that.

This idolatry of athleticism is ridiculous. This isn't track and field. Playoffs are a half court game.

I still find it hard to believe we couldn’t have just dumped Pat to get under the second apron.

We’re entering the finals stages of Cavs 2010 territory here.

[Wisky4life]

You all are talking about Verticals. Remember we once had DJ Stephans and it didnt amount to anything. I think he has the record still

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[ShootingtheJ]

Are people still arguing against Bobby? He was an easy target when his on/off numbers were ugly (outliers), but now those look nice too, a long with the obvious stuff, buckets and rebounds.

He might not fit great with Brook, but that's as much on Brook as it is on Bobby.

It's still nuts to me that no one made him there starting PF, but all the teams that needed help at the 4 sat on their hands.

[blazza18]

If it was a money decision they could've dumped Pat with AJJ. They clearly didn't think Middleton could handle a playoff run that lasts more than 5 games (they are right) and liked Kuzma (they are wrong).

[ShootingtheJ]

This was a disaster of a trade deadline.

Cleveland- trade to help win championship
Clippers-trade to help win championship
Warriors-trade to helpwin championship
Lakers-trade to help win championship
Bucks-trade to get under second apron at the expense of having any possibility of winning a championship

Khris was out last regular season and was the best Buck in the playoffs.

Khris at 80% of his best makes the Bucks a threat to win again. No guarantees on his health, but that risk is better than having no chance to win it.

This was a money decision. If Horst says this move was to make the Bucks better, then he should be fired before he finishes the sentence.

Khris could pass and shoot efficiently at a high level. Kuzma can't do any of that.

This idolatry of athleticism is ridiculous. This isn't track and field. Playoffs are a half court game.

Agree with all of this except the bolded part. This wasn't about saving money. Our owners spend big and we are still way over the cap. Reducing payroll under the second apron gives us some flexibility this summer (and makes sure our '31 pick remains unfrozen). So reducing payroll a bit did save money but saving money wasn't the objective.

Our 32 pick could be frozen, but not 31. Not a big deal for 32 to be frozen, as we would trade 31 anyway.

[Wisky4life]

Im already looking to the summer. If Brook leaves, Portis and Conny decline and expirings leave.

Who you got to pair with our big 2.5. Kuz is still a number and doesnt equal an actual player.

Can we sign a max or are we wearing aprons?

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[paulpressey25]

Think we learned today that most of our players have minimal value. And in the case of Middleton and Pat, negative value.

Bobby and Brook have some value to the right team. But no team was going to give us an equal or better big to replace them. Why would they.

All our guys got old. We just pretended it wasn’t happening

[machu46]

This was a disaster of a trade deadline.

Cleveland- trade to help win championship
Clippers-trade to help win championship
Warriors-trade to helpwin championship
Lakers-trade to help win championship
Bucks-trade to get under second apron at the expense of having any possibility of winning a championship

Khris was out last regular season and was the best Buck in the playoffs.

Khris at 80% of his best makes the Bucks a threat to win again. No guarantees on his health, but that risk is better than having no chance to win it.

This was a money decision. If Horst says this move was to make the Bucks better, then he should be fired before he finishes the sentence.

Khris could pass and shoot efficiently at a high level. Kuzma can't do any of that.

This idolatry of athleticism is ridiculous. This isn't track and field. Playoffs are a half court game.

I think the likelihood of us winning the title is very very small, but I do think we likely improved the team. Whether there was a move out there for us to make that could have catapulted us into having a legitimately high likelihood of winning a title is unknown.

The Clippers though? I don't think they've improved, much less catapulted themselves into title contention.

[MikeIsGood]

All our guys got old. We just pretended it wasn’t happening

Meanwhile half of us here have been jumping up and down yelling and complaining about it for years while we watch the team make moves to get even older (see: Crowder, Jae; Ingles, Joe).

It's been depressing to watch this slip away. Watching games like the Spurs and Grizzlies last week is painful.