Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[JayMKE]

thinking about it, if Embiid had a back problem I don't think he would of gained 15lbs of what I assume is muscle

[JustinCredible]

I will be thrilled if we end up with either Wiggins, Parker, or Embiid at this point. I'm happy and hopeful with those guys. With Exum I'd be nervous but still hopeful.

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[raysbookclub]

If we take Parker over Wiggins my head is going to explode

Me too, but no way Hammond does that, not his way. I think the only non-Wiggins possibilities are Embiid and Exum.

No offense to either of you guys, but I find it laughable that anyone would be disappointed coming away with Jabari Parker in this draft.

I know you guys probably have Wiggins much higher than me, but seriously, let's not get too carried away here. We have scouts, gm, and player polls calling Parker the #1 pick, so it isn't crazy to think we would take him at 2, if available.

I've had Parker has my #1 all year, and though tempted to change it, have held strong, for many reasons I have posted previously...I will be really happy when any of the big 4 are drafted, but if I have my pick, it's Parker for sure.

Maybe, but I meant that Hammond's MO in his drafts has not been to take the most-ready guy but to take the upside guys. Not his style to take Parker, when guys like Wiggins or Exum or Embiid are available.

[JustinCredible]

thinking about it, if Embiid had a back problem I don't think he would of gained 15lbs of what I assume is muscle

It is physically impossible to gain that much muscle in the timeframe he has been out. At most 5lbs of that is muscle.

[DanoMac]

If we take Parker over Wiggins my head is going to explode

Me too, but no way Hammond does that, not his way. I think the only non-Wiggins possibilities are Embiid and Exum.

No offense to either of you guys, but I find it laughable that anyone would be disappointed coming away with Jabari Parker in this draft.

I know you guys probably have Wiggins much higher than me, but seriously, let's not get too carried away here. We have scouts, gm, and player polls calling Parker the #1 pick, so it isn't crazy to think we would take him at 2, if available.

I've had Parker has my #1 all year, and though tempted to change it, have held strong, for many reasons I have posted previously...I will be really happy when any of the big 4 are drafted, but if I have my pick, it's Parker for sure.

I'm interested in who Wiggins will become, not what Parker is and will be (especially with the 2nd pick).

[JustinCredible]

If it is Parker then I think the owners ultimately pulled the trigger.

[LedZepp007]

Thanks gery

[raysbookclub]

Me too, but no way Hammond does that, not his way. I think the only non-Wiggins possibilities are Embiid and Exum.

No offense to either of you guys, but I find it laughable that anyone would be disappointed coming away with Jabari Parker in this draft.

I know you guys probably have Wiggins much higher than me, but seriously, let's not get too carried away here. We have scouts, gm, and player polls calling Parker the #1 pick, so it isn't crazy to think we would take him at 2, if available.

I've had Parker has my #1 all year, and though tempted to change it, have held strong, for many reasons I have posted previously...I will be really happy when any of the big 4 are drafted, but if I have my pick, it's Parker for sure.

Maybe, but I meant that Hammond's MO in his drafts has not been to take the most-ready guy but to take the upside guys. Not his style to take Parker, when guys like Wiggins or Exum or Embiid are available.

Oh wait, sorry, I guess you're only responding to the heads exploding part. Yeah, we just disagree.

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Parker has a lot more "upside" than some seem to think. For a player to be that skilled at 18/19 is in and of itself a special talent, and he is more physically talented than people seem to realize too.

[Baseline Runner]

Can anyone point me in the direction of an article which says that Tellem is specifically avoiding the Bucks? Everything I've found online makes it seem like Tellem isn't releasing Embiid's medical records to anyone. I haven't seen a specific statement which indicates that Embiid doesn't want to play in Milwaukee.

I don't think there is one. Just speculation, can't imagine that Cleveland is any more attractive the Milwaukee. LA doesn't pick until #7 and these guys aren't going to want to fall that far.

We have a great young back court in Irving and Waiters. We have a lot of other good players on this team. #1 picks rarely get the opportunity to join a team as well off as Cleveland and to join another franchise player in Kyrie. The Bucks and Sixers meanwhile are huge projects.

[M-C-G]

Me too, but no way Hammond does that, not his way. I think the only non-Wiggins possibilities are Embiid and Exum.

No offense to either of you guys, but I find it laughable that anyone would be disappointed coming away with Jabari Parker in this draft.

I know you guys probably have Wiggins much higher than me, but seriously, let's not get too carried away here. We have scouts, gm, and player polls calling Parker the #1 pick, so it isn't crazy to think we would take him at 2, if available.

I've had Parker has my #1 all year, and though tempted to change it, have held strong, for many reasons I have posted previously...I will be really happy when any of the big 4 are drafted, but if I have my pick, it's Parker for sure.

I'm interested in who Wiggins will become, not what Parker is and will be (especially with the 2nd pick).

Yeah, I am actually interested in what Parker will be...My gut tells me he becomes the best player in this draft, and a #1 / alpha type All Star. I think he is the best player now and in 5 years. I can definitely understand how others might not agree, and that is cool, but like I said, I don't think it would be a stretch for Parker to go #1 or #2 in this draft.

[DanoMac]

Parker has a lot more "upside" than some seem to think. For a player to be that skilled at 18/19 is in and of itself a special talent, and he is more physically talented than people seem to realize too.

It's not his fault he wasn't built in Wiggins' frame with Wiggins' athleticism. Parker's body will always be the one thing that's holding him back from being the upside pick Wiggins is, IMO.

[Ill-yasova]

Wiggins scares me. He doesn't have the "superstar" personality (actually quite dull), doesn't have the killer mentality of a Kobe whereas Parker does. Not sure Wiggins wants to be a star but damn sure that Embiid and Parker do.

Of all the Wiggins criticisms this one is the one that pisses me off.

Why? The eye test is important too.

You want a killer or a passive lamb?

All these scouts confirm mine and others reservations about his heart and passion.

Yet some are so quick to dismiss it. That frustrates me.

This is why I dismiss it. From 2010:
http://www.masslive.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/05/lebron_james_game_5_celtics.html

It's a good thing LeBron James will change the number on the back of his jersey from 23 to 6 next season, if only because wherever he winds up, it will be one less reminder of the player he will never be.

The comparisons to Michael Jordan were overblown long before now. James' listless performance in the Cavs' Game 5 loss to the Celtics at home was simply confirmation of that.

He may be the NBA prototype for the rest of this century: a RoboCop physique, already possessed with 22nd-Century skills. But unless or until he develops a killer instinct, James doesn't belong in the same sentence with the guy who dominated basketball at the end of the last one.

[-Jragon-]

That is fantastic stuff. Thanks for finding and sharing. I love the way these scouts talk. They watch every single game. Every single play. Sometimes as early as middle school. Wiggins definitely remains the biggest boom or bust for me. I'd still take him over Parker. I loved everything I saw from Embiid (in the 6 or so full Kansas games and highlight videos I've seen.) And, again, Parker is Big Dog. Which is fine, but I'd still rather swing for the fences. Its so nice to be taking about #2 instead of #'s 10-15.

Those scouts make Wiggens sound like Marvin Williams, Embiid sound like Duncan, and Parker sound like T-Mac... I wish they did Exum

Come on guys, did you even read the article? All three of the scouts compared Parker to Paul Pierce, not Big Dog or T-Mac.

I read it. I'm having a hard time coming up with a comparison for Parker. PP wasn't a top 4 prospect out of college, Big Dog and Melo couldn't facilitate or have the bball IQ of Parker. OJ Mayo? We see how that turned out; but he's only 6'4. McGrady would be a good one since he didn't come out with 3 point range but could handle and pass.

[raysbookclub]

If it is Parker then I think the owners ultimately pulled the trigger.

Oh man, not again. Man I hope they let the basketball guys--and not Ron Walter et al--do their job.

[Rockmaninoff]

Great stuff from three (anonymous) scouts and Ryen Russilo, who I really like.

That was an excellent article. Thank you for linking.

Mirrored a lot of my thoughts, so I felt validated. It's a shame the didn't do Exum. I think if they did they end up saying he's the guy with the skills, drive, personality, fire, and physical characteristics - other than Embiid.

[mattg]

People need to calm down about chad ford tweeting. The dude is the easiest of all time to impress in a workout. He's busting a nut if a big man can drop step around a folding chair.

[DanoMac]

If it is Parker then I think the owners ultimately pulled the trigger.

I think so too

[DanoMac]

People need to calm down about chad ford tweeting. The dude is the easiest of all time to impress in a workout. He's busting a nut if a big man can drop step around a folding chair.

Not just Chad Ford, Woj was also adding to the #1 pick being Embiid this morning.