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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#561 » by BUCKnation » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:51 am

bizarro wrote:Speaking of Crypto: After the S Korean announcement (to be expected) today, the market has experienced a major upswing after the much needed correction. Such a fascinating marketplace.

It's pretty crazy. Nice to have my bank transfer deposit of ETH into coinbase increase 120% while waiting the week.

If anyone has played FIFA ultimate team, its similar to that with the volatility when it comes to random announcement, expect its real money.
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Post#562 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:00 am

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Post#563 » by MissKhriddleton » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:43 am

BUCKnation wrote:
bizarro wrote:Speaking of Crypto: After the S Korean announcement (to be expected) today, the market has experienced a major upswing after the much needed correction. Such a fascinating marketplace.

It's pretty crazy. Nice to have my bank transfer deposit of ETH into coinbase increase 120% while waiting the week.

If anyone has played FIFA ultimate team, its similar to that with the volatility when it comes to random announcement, expect its real money.

The dopamine hit you get when opening your portfolio is N I C E.
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Post#564 » by bizarro » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:26 pm

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BUCKnation wrote:
bizarro wrote:Speaking of Crypto: After the S Korean announcement (to be expected) today, the market has experienced a major upswing after the much needed correction. Such a fascinating marketplace.

It's pretty crazy. Nice to have my bank transfer deposit of ETH into coinbase increase 120% while waiting the week.

If anyone has played FIFA ultimate team, its similar to that with the volatility when it comes to random announcement, expect its real money.

The dopamine hit you get when opening your portfolio is N I C E.


I know the feeling. AND, this can change day-to-day or hour-to-hour! HA!

At the market dip before the South Korea announcement, I flipped half of my alt coin portfolio holdings solely into Neo at the low of $113. Today, I wake up to see Neo sitting at $138. You can't gain that % in BTC these days. Not bad to see a 22% valuation in 1.5 days. This is always possible in cryptolandia. BUT, you have to be paying attention and reading the 50/100/200 day averages and watching the candles.

ALSO, word to the wise: pay attention these next 3-6 months. ALL the warning signs are there for a potential major major shift from this absurd alt coin bubble back to a major dominance of Bitcoin. Bitcoin already has broken back above it's 50 day resistance. This bodes well for BTC-holders and investors. I still am skeptical of BTC in the long-term. BUT, it is the OG and it is a legacy coin and it already has brand name recognition - in this silly human world that means everything.

Things to look out for that will signal this shift: A potential Hard Fork (or, another Bitcoin Cash-like fork announcement) and/or more developments within the Lightning Network (Litecoin). If you've been paying any attention, BTC and LTC are working toward a Lightning Network implementation to assist with POS and transaction lags. Perhaps, this will also help with the absurd fees currently embedded w/in the BTC blockchain. When this shift happens (and, I do believe it will happen I just can't say when from today's barstool), we will most likely see massive dumps of altcoin holdings. IMHO, this is absolutely fine as most alt coins are s*** and don't really have any current use-case attached to them. It's seriously mostly speculative whimsical investing we're seeing from people wanting to experience BTC-like meteoric rises. It just isn't sustainable imho. The market will play out over the longer-term.

Case and point is one of my favorite coins: Cardano (ADA - I see you Mike). It is an amazing team. An amazing concept. And it has a deliberately well-thought out roadmap. BUT, as it stands today, it has absolutely no use-case or real-world application. It's just holding coins pre-application. I absolutely think it's a great project. I think it could revolutionize the game. BUT, there's no way it should keep rising. I currently hold 1500 coins and aim to get toward the 5000-10000 mark. BUT, I won't do it with inflated prices. I'm going to keep waiting for the dips.

Why do I mention this here:

Well, I see a lot of our board invested in the market. I don't want y'all to lose your investments or leave the marketplace! In the short term, as the warning signs present themselves, I highly recommend shifting your original investment capital into more secure holdings like BTC, LTC, Bitcoin Cash and maybe even Ethereum/Ethereum Classic/Neo (which is a whole other story - when Ethereum starts its shift to Master Node distribution that is most-likely when we will see the true value of Eth Classic take hold. For now, Ethereum is gpu mineable but that won't be forever).

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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#565 » by HaroldinGMinor » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:55 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Binance is accepting new registrations for now anyway.


And....gone.

Where did you see that? Their website still has the message from 1/5 saying they aren't accepting new registrations.
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Post#566 » by BUCKnation » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:31 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Binance is accepting new registrations for now anyway.


And....gone.

Where did you see that? Their website still has the message from 1/5 saying they aren't accepting new registrations.

I was able to get about 4-5 days ago and I believe that lasted a couple of days at least.
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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#567 » by BUCKnation » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:17 pm

bizarro wrote:
MissKhriddleton wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:It's pretty crazy. Nice to have my bank transfer deposit of ETH into coinbase increase 120% while waiting the week.

If anyone has played FIFA ultimate team, its similar to that with the volatility when it comes to random announcement, expect its real money.

The dopamine hit you get when opening your portfolio is N I C E.


I know the feeling. AND, this can change day-to-day or hour-to-hour! HA!

At the market dip before the South Korea announcement, I flipped half of my alt coin portfolio holdings solely into Neo at the low of $113. Today, I wake up to see Neo sitting at $138. You can't gain that % in BTC these days. Not bad to see a 22% valuation in 1.5 days. This is always possible in cryptolandia. BUT, you have to be paying attention and reading the 50/100/200 day averages and watching the candles.


Added a few more NEO at $130 last night after making a few bucks day trading. Looking good now.
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Post#568 » by sidney lanier » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:31 pm

Everyone Is Getting Hilariously Rich and You’re Not

Interesting NY Times article about the crypto culture.

Enter the Crypto Crackhouse

Nearby is a building residents call the Crypto Crackhouse.

Grant Hummer, who runs the San Francisco Ethereum Meetup, lives there. Long hallways called Bitcoin Boulevard and Ethereum Alley lead to communal bathrooms. Mr. Hummer and his co-founder committed $40 million of their own crypto-made money to their new $100 million hedge fund, Chromatic Capital.

“My neurons are fried from all the volatility,” Mr. Hummer said. “I don’t even care at this point. I’m numb to it. I’ll lose a million dollars in a day and I’m like, O.K.”

His room is simple: a bed, a futon, a TV on a mostly empty media console, three keyboard cleaning sprays and a half dozen canisters of Lysol wipes. His T-shirt read, ‘The Lizard of Wall Street,’ with a picture of a lizard in a suit, dollar-sign necklaces around its neck. He carries with him a coin that reads, “memento mori,” to remind himself he can die any day. He sees the boom as part of a global apocalypse.

“The worse regular civilization does and the less you trust, the better crypto does,” Mr. Hummer said. "It’s almost like the ultimate short trade.”


Another less apocalypse-dependent investment area also mentioned in the Times this weekend: AI chipmakers. I've invested for many years in semiconductor equipment makers (Applied Materials and others) in part on the theory that Moore's Law will drag along the need to buy new machines to make denser chips. Maybe these boutique AI chipmakers will grow up to be AMAT customers. Or maybe some new equipment maker specializing in these new chips will emerge.
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Post#569 » by bucksfansince88 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:17 pm

I’m a tangible investment guy, i prefer to invest in Real estate, commercial and residential. My monthly rental income outpaces and outperforms and is way more reliable than any other investment I’ve made. My grandfather always told me to Buy some land, plant timber and sell the mature timber, or develop the land cheaply and find tenants. That recipe worked for him years ago and it is working for me now, that market stability is hard to overlook imo.

I work for a privately held investment firm and i don’t even believe in the fairy dust that we sell to people at a premium. It seems the industry lets anyone that can pass the series 7 & 66 manage people’s money, when they know just as little as the common investor. I haven’t worked up the courage to invest in crypto but it has piqued my interest...my fear is that i May have missed that markets ascension. I would love to meet with one of you guys that are well versed in crypto, block chain and the underlying tech behind it all as i have a grand or two that I’m willing to toss into it.
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Post#570 » by BUCKnation » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:29 pm

sidney lanier wrote:
Another less apocalypse-dependent investment area also mentioned in the Times this weekend: AI chipmakers. I've invested for many years in semiconductor equipment makers (Applied Materials and others) in part on the theory that Moore's Law will drag along the need to buy new machines to make denser chips. Maybe these boutique AI chipmakers will grow up to be AMAT customers. Or maybe some new equipment maker specializing in these new chips will emerge.

Wanted to get into NVIDIA stock last year in January but didnt have that much free capital to do so. Kind of kicking myself now that it's more than doubled in a year.
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Post#571 » by chile » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:00 pm

bizarro wrote:
midranger wrote:Anyone ever participate on the peer to peer lending or crowd funded real estate websites?


No, but before I dove so deep in crypto I was seriously considering. I'd be curious to hear anyone's experience. It seems like an interesting idea.

What about contacting your local commercial real estate firm for investing? Or better yet just buy a smaller multi family and run it yourself. Unless you buy a crap building, your time should be pretty minimal in upkeep and costs. If you can manage minor headaches every now and then, the ROI should be much higher. Not many options are currently worth buying though.

I don't know about peer to peer lending online but I will never lend to family or friends again.
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Re: OT: Investing - Stocks/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Crypto 

Post#572 » by BUCKnation » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:29 am

Absolute bloodbath for cryptos in the past couple of hours. Curious to see if this current bump is just another bump or a legit bounceback.
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Post#573 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:41 pm

Yeah they are all getting hammered. I'm buying some more to average down. It's a good wakeup call for anyone thinking this was a risk free gravy train.
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Post#574 » by vlietinho » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:00 pm

Hodl is the magic word I guess ;-)
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Post#575 » by skones » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:04 pm

My money has mostly been in USDT for the better part of the last week with how everything has been correcting.
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Post#576 » by midranger » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:24 pm

Market has been bonkers since New Years. It's been up like 0.9% day over day. Can't last. But can't read the tea leaves.
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Post#577 » by midranger » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:29 pm

Anybody use Betterment?
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Post#578 » by M-C-G » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:30 pm

ACB - Aurora

I was looking through the conversation on Yahoo, some times there is a lot of nutty stuff, but I found this interesting and kind of in line with the potential growth of the industry as a whole

Aurora's 2017 3rd quarter profits of $8 million were from only 1,009,585 grams, or 1,009 kg. In the near future (2yrs) Aurora's current projects and acquisitions should be completed and be producing over 200,000 kg yearly or 50,000 quarterly. 50 times more cannabis than what is currently being produced. Assuming there's around 700,000,000 shares outstanding 2 years from now and $1.6 billion in yearly profit, $2.28 earnings per share, a PE ratio of 30, the stock price should be $68.50 if all the numbers come true. Also, there's going to be many more projects and acquisitions announced in the next 2 years. I hope to get a few responses.


Aurora makes up 6.7% of MJX along with Cronos, Canopy and MedReleaf...if those other companies see remotely any kind of similar growth, I would assume MJX is going to be a really nice long term play.
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Post#579 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:40 pm

Bitcoin is falling to Q4 pre-boom prices. It really hit the news around 8k, so it will be interesting what happens if it falls another 15% and if people will start cashing out to avoid losing money.
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Post#580 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:22 pm

Many crypto investors are looking to "get rich quick" so there's panic selling that feeds the declines. Personally I love it. I'm in no rush and it's just fun money for me
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