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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#561 » by Daver » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:05 pm

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I dont think marjon does any better of a job on bane either its all beas hate


Marjon is quicker, longer, and was great statistically a year ago as an isolation defender. It would be surprising if he wasn't better on Bane.


Yea correct me if I'm wrong but most of MarJon's metrics as a defender were pretty good last year. Granted it was a small sample size but his defense is his stronger of the two sides.




Not saying his D isnt better but beas gets critisized cause he cant stop bane yet i wonder if you would be as quick to critisize marjon if bane did the same to him or would it be a different excuse.I think the people who like matjon have a double standard no matter what beas does on D wont ever be good enough yet there will be excuses from the marjon lovers if he gets smoked or has a - after his name.Hope your as critical on marjon as you all are on beas
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Post#562 » by MVP2110 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:09 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:
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Marjon is quicker, longer, and was great statistically a year ago as an isolation defender. It would be surprising if he wasn't better on Bane.


Yea correct me if I'm wrong but most of MarJon's metrics as a defender were pretty good last year. Granted it was a small sample size but his defense is his stronger of the two sides.




Not saying his D isnt better but beas gets critisized cause he cant stop bane yet i wonder if you would be as quick to critisize marjon if bane did the same to him or would it be a different excuse.I think the people who like matjon have a double standard no matter what beas does on D wont ever be good enough yet there will be excuses from the marjon lovers if he gets smoked or has a - after his name.Hope your as critical on marjon as you all are on beas


We have a very long track record of Beas being a bad defender, meanwhile last year MarJon was a plus defender. If you can't see why people think MarJon would be the better candidate to defend Bane I'm not sure what to say
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#563 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:09 pm

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I dont think marjon does any better of a job on bane either its all beas hate


Marjon is quicker, longer, and was great statistically a year ago as an isolation defender. It would be surprising if he wasn't better on Bane.


Yea correct me if I'm wrong but most of MarJon's metrics as a defender were pretty good last year. Granted it was a small sample size but his defense is his stronger of the two sides.


He was strong as an isolation defender, but was a typical rookie in his assignment execution, which hurt the overall team defense. I'm willing to let him develop within the scheme.
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#564 » by Daver » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:19 pm

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Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Yea correct me if I'm wrong but most of MarJon's metrics as a defender were pretty good last year. Granted it was a small sample size but his defense is his stronger of the two sides.




Not saying his D isnt better but beas gets critisized cause he cant stop bane yet i wonder if you would be as quick to critisize marjon if bane did the same to him or would it be a different excuse.I think the people who like matjon have a double standard no matter what beas does on D wont ever be good enough yet there will be excuses from the marjon lovers if he gets smoked or has a - after his name.Hope your as critical on marjon as you all are on beas


We have a very long track record of Beas being a bad defender, meanwhile last year MarJon was a plus defender. If you can't see why people think MarJon would be the better candidate to defend Bane I'm not sure what to say




Not what i said at all as critical as you all are on beas D i hope you are just as critical on marjons D if he gets smoked repeatedly n dont use some other BS excuse on why marjon was bad on D.For beas he sucks on D fine he does if marjon isnt as great as defender as you dreamed better hear the same type of critisizm you give beas all im saying.
If marjon started last night n bane dropped 27 on him would loved to have heard what you would of said.
If marjon does good D ill give him credit
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#565 » by MVP2110 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:22 pm

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Not saying his D isnt better but beas gets critisized cause he cant stop bane yet i wonder if you would be as quick to critisize marjon if bane did the same to him or would it be a different excuse.I think the people who like matjon have a double standard no matter what beas does on D wont ever be good enough yet there will be excuses from the marjon lovers if he gets smoked or has a - after his name.Hope your as critical on marjon as you all are on beas


We have a very long track record of Beas being a bad defender, meanwhile last year MarJon was a plus defender. If you can't see why people think MarJon would be the better candidate to defend Bane I'm not sure what to say




Not what i said at all as critical as you all are on beas D i hope you are just as critical on marjons D if he gets smoked repeatedly n dont use some other BS excuse on why marjon was bad on D.For beas he sucks on D fine he does if marjon isnt as great as defender as you dreamed better hear the same type of critisizm you give beas all im saying.
If marjon started last night n bane dropped 27 on him would loved to have heard what you would of said.
If marjon does good D ill give him credit


It's a little different. MarJon is a 2nd year player, I expect growing pains from him. If he consistently gets smoked then sure I'll criticize him and probably give up on him but I'm very much willing to deal with a young players growing pains if it means development and greater playoff success. Based on previous track record I'm much more optimistic on the idea that MarJon will develop into a plus defender than Beasley ever will. And nothing I've seen this preseason from Beas has changed my mind.

Beas is what he is at this point. A perfect 6th man for 15-20 mpg and letting him cook offensively. Anything more and we're asking to be disappointed
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#566 » by Daver » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:28 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
We have a very long track record of Beas being a bad defender, meanwhile last year MarJon was a plus defender. If you can't see why people think MarJon would be the better candidate to defend Bane I'm not sure what to say




Not what i said at all as critical as you all are on beas D i hope you are just as critical on marjons D if he gets smoked repeatedly n dont use some other BS excuse on why marjon was bad on D.For beas he sucks on D fine he does if marjon isnt as great as defender as you dreamed better hear the same type of critisizm you give beas all im saying.
If marjon started last night n bane dropped 27 on him would loved to have heard what you would of said.
If marjon does good D ill give him credit


It's a little different. MarJon is a 2nd year player, I expect growing pains from him. If he consistently gets smoked then sure I'll criticize him and probably give up on him but I'm very much willing to deal with a young players growing pains if it means development and greater playoff success. Based on previous track record I'm much more optimistic on the idea that MarJon will develop into a plus defender than Beasley ever will. And nothing I've seen this preseason from Beas has changed my mind.

Beas is what he is at this point. A perfect 6th man for 15-20 mpg and letting him cook offensively. Anything more and we're asking to be disappointed



Maybe beas can replace patty C then cause pat sucked last night absoluteky brutal.
AG i dont think will start marjon but you all have said its not who starts but who finishes.So starting really shouldnt matter so much
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Post#567 » by MVP2110 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 4:31 pm

Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Daver wrote:


Not what i said at all as critical as you all are on beas D i hope you are just as critical on marjons D if he gets smoked repeatedly n dont use some other BS excuse on why marjon was bad on D.For beas he sucks on D fine he does if marjon isnt as great as defender as you dreamed better hear the same type of critisizm you give beas all im saying.
If marjon started last night n bane dropped 27 on him would loved to have heard what you would of said.
If marjon does good D ill give him credit


It's a little different. MarJon is a 2nd year player, I expect growing pains from him. If he consistently gets smoked then sure I'll criticize him and probably give up on him but I'm very much willing to deal with a young players growing pains if it means development and greater playoff success. Based on previous track record I'm much more optimistic on the idea that MarJon will develop into a plus defender than Beasley ever will. And nothing I've seen this preseason from Beas has changed my mind.

Beas is what he is at this point. A perfect 6th man for 15-20 mpg and letting him cook offensively. Anything more and we're asking to be disappointed



Maybe beas can replace patty C then cause pat sucked last night absoluteky brutal.
AG i dont think will start marjon but you all have said its not who starts but who finishes.So starting really shouldnt matter so much


If AG doesn't play Pat in the regular season that's fine, but every year Pat is consistently one of our best playoff performers. Completely benching Pat when it's time to win would be a mistake
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Re: Preseason Game 5: Memphis at Milwaukee - 10/20/23 - 7:00 - BSWI - Khris a Go 

Post#568 » by Ayt » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:07 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
We have a very long track record of Beas being a bad defender, meanwhile last year MarJon was a plus defender. If you can't see why people think MarJon would be the better candidate to defend Bane I'm not sure what to say




Not what i said at all as critical as you all are on beas D i hope you are just as critical on marjons D if he gets smoked repeatedly n dont use some other BS excuse on why marjon was bad on D.For beas he sucks on D fine he does if marjon isnt as great as defender as you dreamed better hear the same type of critisizm you give beas all im saying.
If marjon started last night n bane dropped 27 on him would loved to have heard what you would of said.
If marjon does good D ill give him credit


It's a little different. MarJon is a 2nd year player, I expect growing pains from him. If he consistently gets smoked then sure I'll criticize him and probably give up on him but I'm very much willing to deal with a young players growing pains if it means development and greater playoff success. Based on previous track record I'm much more optimistic on the idea that MarJon will develop into a plus defender than Beasley ever will. And nothing I've seen this preseason from Beas has changed my mind.

Beas is what he is at this point. A perfect 6th man for 15-20 mpg and letting him cook offensively. Anything more and we're asking to be disappointed


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Post#569 » by HKPackFan » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:15 pm

MJB was Ballin like a champ, great to see.

And AJJ just pops off the screen. I love his play and only getting scrub time minutes just leaves you wanting to see more.

I also liked AJ green and Tyty. Are both of those guys roster spots safe? They show too much potential rn. I'd love green to get some run like Grayson Allen did just to see how it works.

And I'd love to experiment with MJB w/the starters just to see if he helps the D.


The D has been kinda crappy this preseason but maybe the vets aren't trying full speed on D.


Also, Dame gets a good whistle. I'm so not used to that.
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Post#570 » by chonestown » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:27 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Marjon finished the preseason averaging 11 PPG in 19 MPG, while shooting 44% from 3 with a 58TS%.


Very high highs and low lows for him but that's why he needs to play to develop that consistency. You can certainly see it with him


Yup, really don't know what you're gonna get from him night-to-night but he can and has flashed. Beats being crappy 100% of the time.
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Post#571 » by kanyon » Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:32 pm

HKPackFan wrote:MJB was Ballin like a champ, great to see.

And AJJ just pops off the screen. I love his play and only getting scrub time minutes just leaves you wanting to see more.

I also liked AJ green and Tyty. Are both of those guys roster spots safe? They show too much potential rn. I'd love green to get some run like Grayson Allen did just to see how it works.

And I'd love to experiment with MJB w/the starters just to see if he helps the D.


The D has been kinda crappy this preseason but maybe the vets aren't trying full speed on D.


Also, Dame gets a good whistle. I'm so not used to that.


TyTy is on a 2way, which has limits. I would think they'd at least keep him on that, though.
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Post#572 » by SirChurros » Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:03 pm

crowhead76 wrote:Was really impressed with TyTy last night. I thought he did a nice job controlling the offense and making correct decisions.

I think AJJ aside, I’ve been most impressed with TyTy this preseason. There is certainly something there.
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Post#573 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:24 pm

There were at least three times in the first half after an offensive possession (I believe all three were positive outcomes) that Griffin turned to his assistants and said "I need that clip"

This is my first time sitting actual court side in Fiserv Forum, but I've sat a few rows behind the Bucks bench a few times at Fiserv. And I've sat courtside or in the first few rows many times at the Bradley Center. I mention that for context when I reiterate that I was impressed at how engaged, involved, and on top of things Griffin was during this game. I've up-close observed, during a game, almost every Bucks head coach in recent years: Porter, Stotts, Larry K, Skiles, Larry Drew, Kidd, Budenholzer, and now Griffin. I've been more impressed with Griffin than any of them.
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Post#574 » by MVP2110 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:28 pm

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:There were at least three times in the first half after an offensive possession (I believe all three were positive outcomes) that Griffin turned to his assistants and said "I need that clip"

This is my first time sitting actual court side in Fiserv Forum, but I've sat a few rows behind the Bucks bench a few times at Fiserv. And I've sat courtside or in the first few rows many times at the Bradley Center. I mention that for context when I reiterate that I was impressed at how engaged, involved, and on top of things Griffin was during this game. I've up-close observed, during a game, almost every Bucks head coach in recent years: Porter, Stotts, Larry K, Skiles, Larry Drew, Kidd, Budenholzer, and now Griffin. I've been more impressed with Griffin than any of them.


Out of curiosity based on your experiences how would you rank the others?
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Post#575 » by drone3 » Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:27 pm

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crowhead76 wrote:Was really impressed with TyTy last night. I thought he did a nice job controlling the offense and making correct decisions.

I think AJJ aside, I’ve been most impressed with TyTy this preseason. There is certainly something there.
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Post#576 » by BUCKnation » Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:17 pm

That 4th quarter was really fun. It was nice not having a bench lineup in with Bolden or Rolo or even Wiggington ruining it. Think all of those guys can play a role this season.
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