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Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin

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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#561 » by Ryan5UW » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:23 pm

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Ryan5UW wrote:Until the trade deadline passes, I'm going to convince myself we're turning Kuzma around and won't be stuck with him.


He gave up part of his trade kicker to get them under the 2nd apron.

They're not trading him.


That's fine, just let me have this for a little bit, ok?
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#562 » by M-C-G » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:24 pm

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nagawicka wrote:Insanely, nakedly bad move. A crime against the Bucks. The ONE thing that goes really right for the Bucks in tooo long, a draft pick pans out, and Horst just throws it away? For *what* exactly. And HIDES the giveaway of our best asset beneath the why-bother Khris/Kyle shiny sideshow distraction that doesn't address what needs fixing. What is going on. Horst is gonna pay for this for yeeeeeaars.


Huh? How has AJJ panned out so far, and this is coming from someone that thinks he could be special. I think the ‘emergence’ of Ajax, Green and Rollins is the only reason we were willing to send AJJ out. If that is true, I guess we need to give credit to someone for finding those three dudes.

Draft picks panning out don't have to make DPOY or lead LeBron's Lakers to a title. You know what I mean and you know why everybody's reacting this way. At this stage, at his stage of devt, Johnson is easily shows solid promise of recent draft picks. We're lucky we hit on that pick, and throwing away the young dude is as asinine as it is low bbiq.


Showing promise, absolutely. Hitting on the pick, don’t agree, yet. Thon showed promise. nwora showed promise. I think the timeline for AJJ to play wasn’t a fit and if anything should have us pissing on Horst for not getting Dunn all the more
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Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#563 » by steger_3434 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:24 pm

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My guess is one of two things going on here:

1. He's just completely making this up because his sources are generally terrible.
2. This is being greatly exaggerated. Front office asked Giannis if he's okay with the move and he said something along the lines of "If you guys think that's the best move for us, sure." and that got leaked out as "GIANNIS SUPPORTS IT!!!"


Giannis could also be as tired of Khris's unavailability as the rest of us and he's all about being win-now.

This could be it. I said last year imagine being Giannis giving your all every game getting beat up every game and coming back and doing it all again while your robin sits his ass on the sideline basically refusing to play until he’s 100% and even then it’s only playing every other game and for 20 minutes. As competitive as Giannis is there is no way that doesn’t bother him.

Loved khris through the height of our runs. But that Khris is a long distant memory now. He has one of the worst contracts in the league and is a very bad player.

With that said…..kuzma sucks so we didn’t get better.


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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#564 » by midranger » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:24 pm

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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#565 » by MiltownMadness » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:25 pm

steger_3434 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
machu46 wrote:
My guess is one of two things going on here:

1. He's just completely making this up because his sources are generally terrible.
2. This is being greatly exaggerated. Front office asked Giannis if he's okay with the move and he said something along the lines of "If you guys think that's the best move for us, sure." and that got leaked out as "GIANNIS SUPPORTS IT!!!"


Giannis could also be as tired of Khris's unavailability as the rest of us and he's all about being win-now.

This could be it. I said last year imagine being Giannis giving your all every game getting beat up every game and coming back and doing it all again while your robin sits his ass on the sideline basically refusing to play until he’s 100% and even then it’s only playing every other game and for 20 minutes. As competitive as Giannis is there is no way that doesn’t bother him.

Loved khris through the height of our runs. But that Khris is a long distant memory now. He has one of the worst contracts in the league and is a very bad player.

With that said…..Kim’s sucks so we didn’t get better.


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Why do the Bucks play much better with Khris on the floor if he is bad? I think his body is just done, can't rely on him. Very smart player but what will you do when your body fails you
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#566 » by crkone » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:26 pm

steger_3434 wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:
machu46 wrote:
My guess is one of two things going on here:

1. He's just completely making this up because his sources are generally terrible.
2. This is being greatly exaggerated. Front office asked Giannis if he's okay with the move and he said something along the lines of "If you guys think that's the best move for us, sure." and that got leaked out as "GIANNIS SUPPORTS IT!!!"


Giannis could also be as tired of Khris's unavailability as the rest of us and he's all about being win-now.

This could be it. I said last year imagine being Giannis giving your all every game getting beat up every game and coming back and doing it all again while your robin sits his ass on the sideline basically refusing to play until he’s 100% and even then it’s only playing every other game and for 20 minutes. As competitive as Giannis is there is no way that doesn’t bother him.

Loved khris through the height of our runs. But that Khris is a long distant memory now. He has one of the worst contracts in the league and is a very bad player.

With that said…..Kim’s sucks so we didn’t get better.


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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#567 » by Serge28 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:26 pm

Lmao, Kuzma is shooting 28% from 3 and 60% from the line this season. What the...
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#568 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:26 pm

There's plenty of smoke at this point to indicate that the organization and certainly some players/coaches were pretty fed up with Khris' constant load management. Whether he was dragging his heels purposefully or not is kinda irrelevant. We needed someone who can be physically present on a basketball court.
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Post#569 » by LittleRooster » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:26 pm

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Post#570 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:26 pm

It's going to be tough to create shots with Giannis the only playmaker on the roster.
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Post#571 » by Frank Nova » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:26 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I think we're underrating just how much resentment there may have been when Khris was medically cleared, took a month off after that, then came in looking slow and out of shape.


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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#573 » by MiltownMadness » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:27 pm

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Post#574 » by GoldenAntlers » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:27 pm

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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#575 » by pifhluk23 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:27 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Also will say - don't think we can start AJax and Kuzma with GA. They will need to make an adjustment there because you that isn't enough shooting, especiallly with Brook now just being so so from 3. I'd probably go with GTJ since he can guard 2's and Prince cannot. This is assuming we start Kuzma at 3 which I am expecting.


We somehow managed to get worse on offense when that has been the problem this year. Lopez Kuzma AJJ pick 1 that's all you can have on the floor vs Celtics and Cavs and even 1 is probably too many.
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Post#577 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:28 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:It's going to be tough to create shots with Giannis the only playmaker on the roster.


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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#578 » by nagawicka » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:29 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:I'm most upset at losing Johnson. I feel sick.

Insanely, nakedly bad move. A crime against the Bucks. The ONE thing that goes really right for the Bucks in tooo long, a draft pick pans out, and Horst just throws it away? For *what* exactly. And HIDES the giveaway of our best asset beneath the why-bother Khris/Kyle shiny sideshow distraction that doesn't address what needs fixing. What is going on. Horst is gonna pay for this for yeeeeeaars.

It's so bad that it's actually revealing as to how much the Wizards had us over a barrel here and how few real options we must have had. That's not necessarily a compelling reason to make a trade, but you know Horst wasn't going out there seeking to trade AJ Johnson in this deal.

Yeah, good insight, we have no leverage and other teams arent' gonna help us get younger, cheaper, better players for older, costly, declining players, but without AJ Johnson in our back pocket the tank will be long, and hard, and not pretty.
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Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#579 » by buckboy » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:29 pm

Ryan5UW wrote:
buckboy wrote:
Ryan5UW wrote:Until the trade deadline passes, I'm going to convince myself we're turning Kuzma around and won't be stuck with him.


He gave up part of his trade kicker to get them under the 2nd apron.

They're not trading him.


That's fine, just let me have this for a little bit, ok?


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Post#580 » by steger_3434 » Wed Feb 5, 2025 6:29 pm

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steger_3434 wrote:
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Giannis could also be as tired of Khris's unavailability as the rest of us and he's all about being win-now.

This could be it. I said last year imagine being Giannis giving your all every game getting beat up every game and coming back and doing it all again while your robin sits his ass on the sideline basically refusing to play until he’s 100% and even then it’s only playing every other game and for 20 minutes. As competitive as Giannis is there is no way that doesn’t bother him.

Loved khris through the height of our runs. But that Khris is a long distant memory now. He has one of the worst contracts in the league and is a very bad player.

With that said…..Kim’s sucks so we didn’t get better.


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Because he doesn’t get to rest all season like Middleton gets to


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