Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[MrPerfect1]

If the Bucks got Bledsoe, I think they would be in that 5-7 seed range with a young exciting roster. They would only get better with experience. Making the playoffs with 2 19 year olds would be amazing even in a terrible conference. Having the opportunity to add to the roster a player that is viewed as a building block for the future should be a no brainer.

People seem to always give us significant win totals without looking at the teams we have to play against.

Almost every team in the East should be improved:

-BOS with healthy Rondo, Smart, Young added to team
-Atl gets back Harford
-DET gets huge coaching upgrade plus Drummond growth
-Orl gets Gordon plus development from super young team
-Utah was decent last year with Burke + Exum now
-Lal likely is significantly better
-Cle remains ahead of us
-NO and CHA easily remain ahead of us
-SAC will definitely be better than us

Etc. We are only a lock to be better than Phi. Odds are low of NYK or BKN winning only like 20 games. Hard finding teams we should surpass in standings

[LUKE23]

Yeah, lets look at the things that are different than last year:

1. New ownership. Now, we may still tank for draft position again, but it's something to consider that we have changed owners. We don't really know yet how hands on they will be.

2. New coach. Drew was inept and also may or may not have been tanking in addition to that. I see Kidd being pretty hard nosed about competing personally.

3. Sanders. The biggest one. He played 23 games last year and was only a positive factor in about 5-6 of those. The chances of him not being much more impactful on wins for a total season is slim to none.

4. Giannis. Year 2. Usually when players make their biggest leap.

5. Parker. Will add a lot to our offense even as a rookie. He's ready to play big minutes now.

6. Ersan (if kept). No chance he's near as bad as last year.

Every factor was in our favor for tanking last year. I have a hard time with people saying, "well, we were a 15 win team last year" when talking about X wins for 2014-15. Everything is different. New owners, new coach, star rookie added, Ersan/Sanders. Everything.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Do you honestly think the Bucks have a chance in hell of signing Bledsoe away from the Suns? I personally don't.

I think people need to throw out preconceived notions of what the Bucks are or are not able to do.

Jason Kidd should've done that.

According to Stein we are already "pitching" Eric Bledsoe on an offer sheet.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/485496057313652737[/tweet]

I don't see any published reports that link any other teams to pitching him.

I'm going to be hopeful until we hear otherwise.

[JoeJohnson2two]

Too be honest here, I'm okay going either way. I would love to add Bledsoe just because I think he fits this team very well and adding a 3 and D guy at the 2 would be a damn near perfect starting five. However, I'm also very high on the 2015 draft and would love to add one of Okafor, Mudiay, Towns, Johnson, Oubre, Hezonja, Alexander, etc. I also think the depth is there so adding Bledsoe and landing a pick in the late lottery isn't all that awful when you have guys like RHJ, Turner, Garcia, LeVert, Jones, etc.

It's really a win-win in my eyes either way.

[Chuck Diesel]

Sure. That's why I'm arguing for something much more tangible-a better chance at a higher draft pick & the financial flexibility to explore all available options in fee agency once that happens. Goran Dragic & Rondo represent options that would excite me in addition to a top lottery pick. Ideally we take more steps to strip down the roster in order for that to happen (Ersan, Mayo, ECT.)

And again, I think that is some Herb Kohl level ****. You want to bottom out, build a young core and then push with a 29 year old guy who will be out of the league before your young guys hit their prime? If you're going to bottom out, bottom out. I'd be more than content with trading everyone and just building through the draft, but if your going to make a free agent splash at any time in the foreseeable future there is no reason not to strike now with a 24 year old kid.

I see only two ways right now. You sign Bledsoe and go for it or you trade everyone and tear it down for multiple seasons. Being a 25-30 win team and then going all out for a free agent next season who is 29 sounds like one of the worst possible scenarios to me.

Word. We've both rehashed our stance on this two or three times more than necessary. But if you ever compare me to Herb Kohl again I'll reach through the computer and slap the **** out of you.

[Nycballa2k]

if we traded Giannis and Sanders for Roy Hibbert how mad would you be out of 10

[Matches Malone]

if we traded Giannis and Sanders for Roy Hibbert how mad would you be out of 10

Mad enough to petition you get banned for asking such an absurd question.

[JoeJohnson2two]

if we traded Giannis and Sanders for Roy Hibbert how mad would you be out of 10

You should be banned.

[Nycballa2k]

just a humorous hypothetical making fun of the old way things were run no need to go for my throat

[Sky Bucks]

If the Bucks got Bledsoe, I think they would be in that 5-7 seed range with a young exciting roster. They would only get better with experience. Making the playoffs with 2 19 year olds would be amazing even in a terrible conference. Having the opportunity to add to the roster a player that is viewed as a building block for the future should be a no brainer.

People seem to always give us significant win totals without looking at the teams we have to play against.

Almost every team in the East should be improved:

-BOS with healthy Rondo, Smart, Young added to team
-Atl gets back Harford
-DET gets huge coaching upgrade plus Drummond growth
-Orl gets Gordon plus development from super young team
-Utah was decent last year with Burke + Exum now
-Lal likely is significantly better
-Cle remains ahead of us
-NO and CHA easily remain ahead of us
-SAC will definitely be better than us

Etc. We are only a lock to be better than Phi. Odds are low of NYK or BKN winning only like 20 games. Hard finding teams we should surpass in standings

Well then you are basically saying that the Bucks will stay just as bad this year. If Bledsoe is available and the Bucks are able to pick him up there shouldn't be argument. Why wouldn't anyone want to add a 24 year old pg with tons of potential to our team right now.

[Godgers]

I am reading people want to give Bledsoe a contract like Michael Redd. Redd was love by everyone until he became max Redd and even though Redd was a good player it hurt the team because of his contract.

Redd got more than the regular max. He got the super max.

And people may have been fine with the deal if not for the injuries and if he was surrounded by a supporting cast who could win a lot of games, like this one may w/ Parker, Giannis, and Sanders. In their prime that core may win 50 games by itself and with solid role players.

So it's an apples and oranges situation.

Sanders is a turd and Giannis has done nothing and shown nothing. Good prospect that is it. He is unknown on what he will do in the NBA. Giannis is Bucks fans overrated player of the year or two. Where every year everyone overrates and over values a player on the Bucks and claims them untradable.

Before Giannis it was Henson. Everyone would say I wouldn't trade Henson for a top 5 pick in the draft. Henson is a valuable untradable player. Even though Henson has done nothing in the NBA.

Giannis was a good pick for the middle of the first round will he work we'll see.

[Nycballa2k]

If the Bucks got Bledsoe, I think they would be in that 5-7 seed range with a young exciting roster. They would only get better with experience. Making the playoffs with 2 19 year olds would be amazing even in a terrible conference. Having the opportunity to add to the roster a player that is viewed as a building block for the future should be a no brainer.

People seem to always give us significant win totals without looking at the teams we have to play against.

Almost every team in the East should be improved:

-BOS with healthy Rondo, Smart, Young added to team
-Atl gets back Harford
-DET gets huge coaching upgrade plus Drummond growth
-Orl gets Gordon plus development from super young team
-Utah was decent last year with Burke + Exum now
-Lal likely is significantly better
-Cle remains ahead of us
-NO and CHA easily remain ahead of us
-SAC will definitely be better than us

Etc. We are only a lock to be better than Phi. Odds are low of NYK or BKN winning only like 20 games. Hard finding teams we should surpass in standings

Well then you are basically saying that the Bucks will stay just as bad this year. If Bledsoe is available and the Bucks are able to pick him up there shouldn't be argument. Why wouldn't anyone want to add a 24 year old pg with tons of potential to our team right now.

because we should instead bank on getting a top 5 pick, that pick happening to be a PG and one that ends up being as good as Bledsoe at that

they call him min-LeBron for a reason. My only worry is he's proven to be a bit injury prone

[cinematographer]

Another question:

Would you pay $14m to do to another team what Philly did to New Orleans?

[Nycballa2k]

I am reading people want to give Bledsoe a contract like Michael Redd. Redd was love by everyone until he became max Redd and even though Redd was a good player it hurt the team because of his contract.

Redd got more than the regular max. He got the super max.

And people may have been fine with the deal if not for the injuries and if he was surrounded by a supporting cast who could win a lot of games, like this one may w/ Parker, Giannis, and Sanders. In their prime that core may win 50 games by itself and with solid role players.

So it's an apples and oranges situation.

Sanders is a turd and Giannis has done nothing and shown nothing. Good prospect that is it. He is unknown on what he will do in the NBA. Giannis is Bucks fans overrated player of the year or two. Where every year everyone overrates and over values a player on the Bucks and claims them untradable.

Before Giannis it was Henson. Everyone would say I wouldn't trade Henson for a top 5 pick in the draft. Henson is a valuable untradable player. Even though Henson has done nothing in the NBA.

Giannis was a good pick for the middle of the first round will he work we'll see.

Sanders was literally the best post defender in the NBA the season before last get out of here with that nonsense.

And there is legit reason to be excited for Giannis. near 7 footers with his athleticism, ball handling and court vision don't grow on trees

[Captain Erv]

if we traded Giannis and Sanders for Roy Hibbert how mad would you be out of 10

Chris Brown.

[MrPerfect1]

If the Bucks got Bledsoe, I think they would be in that 5-7 seed range with a young exciting roster. They would only get better with experience. Making the playoffs with 2 19 year olds would be amazing even in a terrible conference. Having the opportunity to add to the roster a player that is viewed as a building block for the future should be a no brainer.

People seem to always give us significant win totals without looking at the teams we have to play against.

Almost every team in the East should be improved:

-BOS with healthy Rondo, Smart, Young added to team
-Atl gets back Harford
-DET gets huge coaching upgrade plus Drummond growth
-Orl gets Gordon plus development from super young team
-Utah was decent last year with Burke + Exum now
-Lal likely is significantly better
-Cle remains ahead of us
-NO and CHA easily remain ahead of us
-SAC will definitely be better than us

Etc. We are only a lock to be better than Phi. Odds are low of NYK or BKN winning only like 20 games. Hard finding teams we should surpass in standings

Well then you are basically saying that the Bucks will stay just as bad this year. If Bledsoe is available and the Bucks are able to pick him up there shouldn't be argument. Why wouldn't anyone want to add a 24 year old pg with tons of potential to our team right now.

That is simply incorrect what you are saying. You can get better but end up in the same spot if others improve also.

There are tons of reasons why a team 4 years sway from contending should not try for an expensive, likely poorly aging wing player who is coming off of a brutal injury

[MrPerfect1]

People seem to always give us significant win totals without looking at the teams we have to play against.

Almost every team in the East should be improved:

-BOS with healthy Rondo, Smart, Young added to team
-Atl gets back Harford
-DET gets huge coaching upgrade plus Drummond growth
-Orl gets Gordon plus development from super young team
-Utah was decent last year with Burke + Exum now
-Lal likely is significantly better
-Cle remains ahead of us
-NO and CHA easily remain ahead of us
-SAC will definitely be better than us

Etc. We are only a lock to be better than Phi. Odds are low of NYK or BKN winning only like 20 games. Hard finding teams we should surpass in standings

Well then you are basically saying that the Bucks will stay just as bad this year. If Bledsoe is available and the Bucks are able to pick him up there shouldn't be argument. Why wouldn't anyone want to add a 24 year old pg with tons of potential to our team right now.

because we should instead bank on getting a top 5 pick, that pick happening to be a PG and one that ends up being as good as Bledsoe at that

they call him min-LeBron for a reason. My only worry is he's proven to be a bit injury prone

Talk about a false dichotomy. Why would a Top 5 pick need to be a Pg? If we ended up with Wolters as our long term PG be cuz we use a Top pick on the next Stud C or SG then who cares

[paulpressey25]

If we aren't going to go after Bledsoe hard, then we need to dump guys like Ersan, etc and tank hard for next year.

[Nycballa2k]

Well then you are basically saying that the Bucks will stay just as bad this year. If Bledsoe is available and the Bucks are able to pick him up there shouldn't be argument. Why wouldn't anyone want to add a 24 year old pg with tons of potential to our team right now.

because we should instead bank on getting a top 5 pick, that pick happening to be a PG and one that ends up being as good as Bledsoe at that

they call him min-LeBron for a reason. My only worry is he's proven to be a bit injury prone

Talk about a false dichotomy. Why would a Top 5 pick need to be a Pg? If we ended up with Wolters as our long term PG be cuz we use a Top pick on the next Stud C or SG then who cares

I was targeting the argument that we shouldn't get Bledsoe because we can get a point guard in the top 5 next year

[FlagsFlyForever]

Why do people keep mentioning that Bledsoe is 24? What does age have to do with anything when the guy will be a free agent in 2018? I don't care if he's 28 or 20.