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Post#581 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:03 am

Prez wrote:Ever since the first 4 games, after they started doing slightly less idiotic stuff with Brook defensively, Giannis/Dame/Khris/Brook is approaching a +20 net rating in over 200 minutes. Trading Khris for the sake of trading Khris would be idiotic. What we need is tweaks to the defense from the coaching staff and bench upgrades. And if we're getting greedy, someone who can credibly start & defend well at the 2 so Beasley can transition to a bench gunner role. Someone like '19-20 Wes would be amazing right about now.


On offense Khris is fantastic. The only reason you’d do it though is if the team knew the true condition of his knees, and if he rehabbed himself back to good trade value. I’m not sure I trust his health. That’s the issue. It’s not the on-court.
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Post#582 » by Prez » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:18 am

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Prez wrote:Ever since the first 4 games, after they started doing slightly less idiotic stuff with Brook defensively, Giannis/Dame/Khris/Brook is approaching a +20 net rating in over 200 minutes. Trading Khris for the sake of trading Khris would be idiotic. What we need is tweaks to the defense from the coaching staff and bench upgrades. And if we're getting greedy, someone who can credibly start & defend well at the 2 so Beasley can transition to a bench gunner role. Someone like '19-20 Wes would be amazing right about now.


On offense Khris is fantastic. The only reason you’d do it though is if the team knew the true condition of his knees, and if he rehabbed himself back to good trade value. I’m not sure I trust his health. That’s the issue. It’s not the on-court.

Yeah if the Bucks know the details and it's not good then I agree they should be proactive. The issue in the scenario where Khris ramps his trade value up is that it'd mean he's likely playing really well, and if so there's less than zero chance Giannis lets him get traded lol.

It's complicated but thank god he's at least still a clear positive on court so Giannis backing him wouldn't be as damaging, unlike the Klay situation in GSW where Steph would similarly (most likely) nuke any Klay trade even though Klay's actively damaging on court much of the time.
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Post#583 » by RiotPunch » Thu Dec 14, 2023 8:46 am

Can't get behind the Khris trade stuff. Coming from a pretty frequent Khris trade proposer of seasons past.
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Post#584 » by Jez2983 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 11:30 am

RiotPunch wrote:Can't get behind the Khris trade stuff. Coming from a pretty frequent Khris trade proposer of seasons past.


The only Khris trade proposal that was never actually real but would have been decent was Beal when he was in career form. Now his injury history isn't much better than Khris.
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Post#585 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:48 pm

The Bucks need to get Kris Dunn. Point of attack defender, or can guard bigger players. Shooting over 40% from 3 for the 2nd year in a row. Can bring the ball up on the possessions that Dame chooses to just chill. Salary only $2.5 million. Jazz in a rebuild. Simple deal.
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Post#586 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:49 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Can't get behind the Khris trade stuff. Coming from a pretty frequent Khris trade proposer of seasons past.


Agree, Khris has more value to us than he does to other teams.
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Post#587 » by yannisk » Thu Dec 14, 2023 12:51 pm

Now is the time to trade Giannis, he will never have such a trade value again
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Post#588 » by Jez2983 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:32 pm

yannisk wrote:Now is the time to trade Giannis, he will never have such a trade value again


What do you think we could get for Dame?
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Post#589 » by Daver » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:33 pm

Just curious board with how good beas has been would you all be ok with a 3 yr 45 million extension just curious on your thoughts
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Post#590 » by PG Graveyard » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:34 pm

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yannisk wrote:Now is the time to trade Giannis, he will never have such a trade value again


What do you think we could get for Dame?


Tyler Herro and a 2nd
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Post#591 » by Jez2983 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:36 pm

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yannisk wrote:Now is the time to trade Giannis, he will never have such a trade value again


What do you think we could get for Dame?


Tyler Herro and a 2nd


An up and coming European C?
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Post#592 » by Daver » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:36 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
yannisk wrote:Now is the time to trade Giannis, he will never have such a trade value again


What do you think we could get for Dame?


Tyler Herro and a 2nd


Add robinson. And for the record spo wpuld have zero problem getting dame very much involved in the heats O and i bet dame would be scoring alot more consistent
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Post#593 » by Jez2983 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:40 pm

Daver wrote:
PG Graveyard wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
What do you think we could get for Dame?


Tyler Herro and a 2nd


Add robinson. And for the record spo wpuld have zero problem getting dame very much involved in the heats O and i bet dame would be scoring alot more consistent


In the olden days we would use green font to indicate sarcasm Dave. I can assure you that none of us wants to trade Dame, we are just combining the sarcasm of that concept with the crap offers the Heat made.
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Post#594 » by JayMKE » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:20 pm

Daver wrote:Just curious board with how good beas has been would you all be ok with a 3 yr 45 million extension just curious on your thoughts

Pass unless he shows himself to be a legit playoff contributor. He should probably be 6th man or something not a start.
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Post#595 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:12 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Can't get behind the Khris trade stuff. Coming from a pretty frequent Khris trade proposer of seasons past.


Same. I was prolific about trading Khris for CP3, Butler, Beal, everyone good that we may have had a shot at. Now though it's done he's been here too long and developed too strong of a relationship with Giannis. I want him here even if he's not playing up to his contract. All we really need is some longboi defenders and tweaks to the defense. I honestly don't know if AJJ can get there this year, I doubt he can be our 6th-8th guy in the playoffs just because he is a rookie.
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Post#596 » by Brewhoopfan » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:17 pm

Wants: Dejounte Murray, Tari Eason

Any chance at all of a 3 team deal? The Rockets were interested in Brook in the offseason although that may have changed with Sengun playing so well. Maybe Sengun can play the 4? Fine with Middleton and/or Bobby going to ATL.
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Post#597 » by raferfenix » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:22 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:No need to dick around with the top five. Since an athletic proven defender who can shoot isn't realistic given the Bucks lack of trade assets and CBA restrictions, their hope has to be internal. Play the youngest guys.


Unless we're going full D'Antoni idk about Beasley in the starting lineup on a deep playoff run.

Seems like we need some defense in between Dame and Middleton.

Hoping that could be MarJon -- and he has time to do it -- but he doesn't seem on track to seize that spot yet at least.
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Post#598 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:40 pm

raferfenix wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:No need to dick around with the top five. Since an athletic proven defender who can shoot isn't realistic given the Bucks lack of trade assets and CBA restrictions, their hope has to be internal. Play the youngest guys.


Unless we're going full D'Antoni idk about Beasley in the starting lineup on a deep playoff run.

Seems like we need some defense in between Dame and Middleton.

Hoping that could be MarJon -- and he has time to do it -- but he doesn't seem on track to seize that spot yet at least.


Dame, Beasley, Khris have shown they can do it defensively in the last 5 minutes of games but yeah I'm definitely worried about having those 3 on the floor for entire games in the playoffs. They'd need to play that same defensive intensity nearly all game and I don't have a whole lot of faith in that.
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Post#599 » by DingleJerry » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:17 pm

Yea if you could add another wing/G good defender to the team it would go a long way. Along with it, if it ends up being more of a 3/4 type guy it really could make sense to stagger the O by having Middleton come off the bench in the Manu style role. And probably a tweak to Dame playing the whole 1Q. If the guy you get is more of a 1/2 then yea just have Beasley go to bench. I would still see the logic of staggering Middleton but its not as drastic in that scenario so you can avoid the 'drama' or whatever you want to call it of 'benching' middleton. To me you're still playing the same minutes so it shouldn't matter, but egos and all that
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Post#600 » by buckboy » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:20 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Posted this in the Bulls thread but the Bucks most played lineups are pasting opponents, just like they have the last how many years.

No need to dick around with the top five. Since an athletic proven defender who can shoot isn't realistic given the Bucks lack of trade assets and CBA restrictions, their hope has to be internal. Play the youngest guys.


Agree. The fact the AJJ isn't playing more is coaching malpractice (add it to the ever-growing list).

He is exactly what they need and he's just sitting there.

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