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Post#61 » by Dwagner04 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:33 pm

In college, I think Wiggins will look mediocre. He reminds me of Irving. Not a good college skill set, but has all the tools to turn into a great NBA player.

The comparison to LeBron, MJ, or even Kobe by the media are well off base though. I see Wiggins as more of a poor mans Paul George.
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Post#62 » by mattg » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:50 pm

Dwagner04 wrote:In college, I think Wiggins will look mediocre. He reminds me of Irving. Not a good college skill set, but has all the tools to turn into a great NBA player.

The comparison to LeBron, MJ, or even Kobe by the media are well off base though. I see Wiggins as more of a poor mans Paul George.

Wat? Kyrie looked awesome in college he was just hurt all year and barely played. He also had an excellent skill set. If you're gonna compare him to any recent guy it's gotta be Wall. There's a few parallels there.
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Post#63 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:52 pm

Without having watched him play against college competition yet, the easy comparison at this point is Barnes.
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Post#64 » by emunney » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:53 pm

Kyrie was immediately awesome at Duke. That team had won the whole thing the year before and he came in and took over the program from day one. He was so good, Coach K redrew the offense around him. I would compare Kyrie's freshman year, while he was healthy, to Melo's. He was by far the best player on a very, very good team.
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Post#65 » by TroyD92 » Fri Nov 1, 2013 12:09 am

Dwagner04 wrote:In college, I think Wiggins will look mediocre. He reminds me of Irving. Not a good college skill set, but has all the tools to turn into a great NBA player.

The comparison to LeBron, MJ, or even Kobe by the media are well off base though. I see Wiggins as more of a poor mans Paul George.


I think Wiggins ceiling is a richer mans Paul George.
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Post#66 » by packfan414 » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:00 am

it's absolutely hilarious to me that kohl and the cronies hired a bunch of new bucks interns and it seems one of their "duties": is to spread anti-tanking propoganda on RealGM. between this article about wiggins, and the intern who posted that freakonomics anti-tank article.

what do the bucks think? that we're all going to have some epiphany and realize "The Bucks FO was right all along! of course it's better to win 40 games and be the ninth seed than to have a top pick!"

just laughable. i would love to know which crony orchestrated this plan. **** hilarious.
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Post#67 » by Aaron It Out » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:27 am

packfan414 wrote:it's absolutely hilarious to me that kohl and the cronies hired a bunch of new bucks interns and it seems one of their "duties": is to spread anti-tanking propoganda on RealGM. between this article about wiggins, and the intern who posted that freakonomics anti-tank article.

what do the bucks think? that we're all going to have some epiphany and realize "The Bucks FO was right all along! of course it's better to win 40 games and be the ninth seed than to have a top pick!"

just laughable. i would love to know which crony orchestrated this plan. **** hilarious.


This "idea" is getting so old. I wish it wasn't constantly hinted at by our mod who really doesn't know whether these people work for the Bucks or not. They most likely aren't because the Bucks definitely don't pay anybody to do much outside of being at the Bradley Center during games, where they certainly aren't posting on RealGM.

OP has been here before, every time he comes he posts something to ignite a legitimate discussion. So what if someone isn't ready to proclaim a guy who has never played a minute in college as the next for sure big thing? The sad part is, every time he comes, he is flooded with lame ass hyperbole and extremely defensive posts. He tries to deflect these with calm and collected responses but he can't post anything without being called an intern or something equally as stupid.

He even says that he isn't against tanking. He is simply trying to start a discussion based on a very legitimate article posted with quotes from his college coach. This thread had nothing to do with whether not we should tank. But you question everybody's hard on for Wiggins and suddenly you're Jim Paschke. This board is ****.
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Post#68 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:32 am

If the mods want to claim someone is a Bucks employee, I'm hoping they're doing so with some conclusive electronic proof. If they have it and they want to let people know that posts are coming from a Bucks facility or email address, then fine, go for it if they like. But short of 100% conclusive evidence I'd love for it to stop.
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Post#69 » by Ayt » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:56 am

ReasonablySober wrote:If the mods want to claim someone is a Bucks employee, I'm hoping they're doing so with some conclusive electronic proof. If they have it and they want to let people know that posts are coming from a Bucks facility or email address, then fine, go for it if they like. But short of 100% conclusive evidence I'd love for it to stop.


I have to agree.

HurricaneKid wrote:The article is also highly suspicious. He is a known slasher and distributor yet the article hits him for his 3 point shooting saying he will shoot ~30%. Well when LeBron was 18 he shot 29.0%.

And the notion that MJ imposed his will as a Frosh at UNC is hilariously inaccurate.


He's a known distributor? He averaged 2.5 APG last year. His ability to distribute is very much up in the air. It is one of the main things I'm going to look for this year.

As for three point shooting, are you referencing LeBron's rookie NBA percentage? I don't see the connection to college.
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Post#70 » by mattg » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:58 am

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HurricaneKid wrote:The article is also highly suspicious. He is a known slasher and distributor yet the article hits him for his 3 point shooting saying he will shoot ~30%. Well when LeBron was 18 he shot 29.0%.

And the notion that MJ imposed his will as a Frosh at UNC is hilariously inaccurate.


He's a known distributor? He averaged 2.5 APG last year. His ability to distribute is very much up in the air. It is one of the main things I'm going to look for this year.

As for three point shooting, are you referencing LeBron's rookie NBA percentage? I don't see the connection to college.

I think he's more just pointing out how the article attacks the weak points that everyone already knew wiggins had.
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Post#71 » by Ayt » Fri Nov 1, 2013 2:30 am

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HurricaneKid wrote:The article is also highly suspicious. He is a known slasher and distributor yet the article hits him for his 3 point shooting saying he will shoot ~30%. Well when LeBron was 18 he shot 29.0%.

And the notion that MJ imposed his will as a Frosh at UNC is hilariously inaccurate.


He's a known distributor? He averaged 2.5 APG last year. His ability to distribute is very much up in the air. It is one of the main things I'm going to look for this year.

As for three point shooting, are you referencing LeBron's rookie NBA percentage? I don't see the connection to college.

I think he's more just pointing out how the article attacks the weak points that everyone already knew wiggins had.


The article brought up his questionable three point shot, which I don't even necessarily agree with. I highly doubt he shoots only 30% from three. He'll be closer to 40% than 30%.

To refer to him as a known distributor, as HK did, is ludicrous at this point, IMO. His ability to attack and create will have a huge impact on how good of an NBA prospect he actually is, and it is a question mark. Does he look like the kind of guy you can potentially run a lot of offense through who can both score for himself and create for others (and be near or above 5 APG in the future in the NBA) or is he more of a scorer who will be in the 3-4 range? Most of the elite wings in recent history have been very good creators for others as well.

If he's not the type who can handle a high usage while creating good looks for himself and others, his value drops dramatically even if he looks like a great slasher and scorer.
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Post#72 » by Ayt » Fri Nov 1, 2013 5:06 am

I really like Jabari Parker's game. I could definitely see him going over Wiggins. The guy can ball.
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Post#73 » by Nebula1 » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:02 pm

So the Bucks don't want Wiggins? Nice. :thumbsup:
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Post#74 » by SupremeHustle » Fri Nov 1, 2013 3:08 pm

I just want the Bucks to have the opportunity to draft him.
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Post#75 » by jokeboy86 » Fri Nov 1, 2013 4:18 pm

Ayt wrote:I really like Jabari Parker's game. I could definitely see him going over Wiggins. The guy can ball.


For some reason it wouldnt surprise me if Parker stayed another yr at Duke even if he was a lottery pick. Unless they win the title.
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Post#76 » by Nycballa2k » Sat Nov 2, 2013 6:05 am

Wiggins will probably be amazing but the player from this draft who has really WOWed me is Aaron Gordon. He's the player i'm secretly hoping we get
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Post#77 » by JoeHova » Sat Nov 2, 2013 7:44 am

Well, one thing that this buzz about Wiggins looking bad has done is increase my interest in watching Kansas games. Maybe this is a ploy to boost ratings for their first game? I'm joking, of course, but I'm not sure there was going to be a lot of interest in Louisiana-Monroe at Kansas (except among Jayhawk fans). There probably will be now. (Friday the 8th at 7 PM on ESPN3)
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Post#78 » by TroyD92 » Sat Nov 2, 2013 12:34 pm

Nycballa2k wrote:Wiggins will probably be amazing but the player from this draft who has really WOWed me is Aaron Gordon. He's the player i'm secretly hoping we get


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Post#79 » by Newz » Sat Nov 2, 2013 2:23 pm

I've never actually seen Wiggins play outside of a couple YouTube clips. Whenever I watch Parker play I am very impressed by him though. He's not an incredible athlete, but that guy has a ton of skills. Kind of reminds me a little bit of Paul Pierce... maybe Melo.
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Post#80 » by Wise1 » Sat Nov 2, 2013 5:03 pm

If you're Smart, you'll look at Marcus.

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