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Chuck Diesel wrote:Players who’ve experienced more serious symptoms have every incentive to keep it quiet. Agents and teams do too. Nothing like heading into free agency with the world knowing you have permanently damaged lungs.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."
I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
trwi7 wrote:Chuck Diesel wrote:Players who’ve experienced more serious symptoms have every incentive to keep it quiet. Agents and teams do too. Nothing like heading into free agency with the world knowing you have permanently damaged lungs.
You think the physical before signing the contract wouldn't show permanently damaged lungs?
trwi7 wrote:Chuck Diesel wrote:Players who’ve experienced more serious symptoms have every incentive to keep it quiet. Agents and teams do too. Nothing like heading into free agency with the world knowing you have permanently damaged lungs.
You think the physical before signing the contract wouldn't show permanently damaged lungs?
Chuck Diesel wrote:Players who’ve experienced more serious symptoms have every incentive to keep it quiet. Agents and teams do too. Nothing like heading into free agency with the world knowing you have permanently damaged lungs. The league doesn’t want anything that would kill momentum for a reopen. If someone was really struggling we likely wouldn’t hear about it.
Lippo wrote:How long til some low life like Marcus Smart contracts it 30 mins before game 1 and rubs and spits all over Giannis so they both get held out the next 14 days, or more likely Celts are down 3-0 and he does it to screw us in the next round cause he’s a soar loser...
Covid sniping, worse than flopping or provoking into a fight...
MikeIsGood wrote:trwi7 wrote:Chuck Diesel wrote:Players who’ve experienced more serious symptoms have every incentive to keep it quiet. Agents and teams do too. Nothing like heading into free agency with the world knowing you have permanently damaged lungs.
You think the physical before signing the contract wouldn't show permanently damaged lungs?
While true, it doesn't exactly change his point.
New thought/not a continuation of the above - nothing would make me happier than basketball coming back. Really could use something to watch, follow, enjoy - for entertainment and routine. I can't convince myself it's a good idea, though. Like, I really want to, but I can't.
Baseball seems to be a safer bet, but they've got a **** to work through. Agree with earlier points that basketball is better aligned, but I unfortunately don't think it's smarter.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."
I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
KnicksGod wrote:Middleton probably the most underrated player in NBA History
trwi7 wrote:MikeIsGood wrote:trwi7 wrote:
You think the physical before signing the contract wouldn't show permanently damaged lungs?
While true, it doesn't exactly change his point.
New thought/not a continuation of the above - nothing would make me happier than basketball coming back. Really could use something to watch, follow, enjoy - for entertainment and routine. I can't convince myself it's a good idea, though. Like, I really want to, but I can't.
Baseball seems to be a safer bet, but they've got a **** to work through. Agree with earlier points that basketball is better aligned, but I unfortunately don't think it's smarter.
It does change his point though because even if it isn't known that a player has permanently damaged lungs a physical is going to make it known to the team that's signing him who will either void the contract or try to negotiate different terms. That will lead to Woj or Shams or whoever investigating and even if they can't get the answer other teams are eventually going to find out and some guy from some team will leak it.
MickeyDavis wrote:No one is going to be able to keep anything quiet. It's absurd.
trwi7 wrote:MikeIsGood wrote:trwi7 wrote:
You think the physical before signing the contract wouldn't show permanently damaged lungs?
While true, it doesn't exactly change his point.
New thought/not a continuation of the above - nothing would make me happier than basketball coming back. Really could use something to watch, follow, enjoy - for entertainment and routine. I can't convince myself it's a good idea, though. Like, I really want to, but I can't.
Baseball seems to be a safer bet, but they've got a **** to work through. Agree with earlier points that basketball is better aligned, but I unfortunately don't think it's smarter.
It does change his point though because even if it isn't known that a player has permanently damaged lungs a physical is going to make it known to the team that's signing him who will either void the contract or try to negotiate different terms. That will lead to Woj or Shams or whoever investigating and even if they can't get the answer other teams are eventually going to find out and some guy from some team will leak it.
MikeIsGood wrote:trwi7 wrote:MikeIsGood wrote:
While true, it doesn't exactly change his point.
New thought/not a continuation of the above - nothing would make me happier than basketball coming back. Really could use something to watch, follow, enjoy - for entertainment and routine. I can't convince myself it's a good idea, though. Like, I really want to, but I can't.
Baseball seems to be a safer bet, but they've got a **** to work through. Agree with earlier points that basketball is better aligned, but I unfortunately don't think it's smarter.
It does change his point though because even if it isn't known that a player has permanently damaged lungs a physical is going to make it known to the team that's signing him who will either void the contract or try to negotiate different terms. That will lead to Woj or Shams or whoever investigating and even if they can't get the answer other teams are eventually going to find out and some guy from some team will leak it.
This doesn't change his point at all. At least not as I interpret it - Chuck?
The point as I understand it is, right now, players - and the league - do indeed have every incentive to keep quiet. This has nothing to do with a team giving a player a physical. The league, and teams, players, and agents, considering everyone seems to be aligned on getting this back going again, have every incentive to keep a more serious case quiet right now. Of course no deaths or whatever are being covered up, because obviously, but it would not be doing their current goal/end-game any benefit right now for someone to be talking about a case beyond 'yeah I had it, didn't really have any symptoms, just quarantined for 2 weeks.' If we heard player(s) talking about 'I was bed-ridden for 2 weeks, had trouble breathing, my family got it, but thankfully we are all recovered now,' we might be having a different conversation right now about restarting the league and there being optimism around it.MickeyDavis wrote:No one is going to be able to keep anything quiet. It's absurd.
I don't know if I could disagree more MD. There is no better time and circumstance than right now for something to go under the radar. People are stuck at home and the sports world is dead.
MickeyDavis wrote:MikeIsGood wrote:trwi7 wrote:
It does change his point though because even if it isn't known that a player has permanently damaged lungs a physical is going to make it known to the team that's signing him who will either void the contract or try to negotiate different terms. That will lead to Woj or Shams or whoever investigating and even if they can't get the answer other teams are eventually going to find out and some guy from some team will leak it.
This doesn't change his point at all. At least not as I interpret it - Chuck?
The point as I understand it is, right now, players - and the league - do indeed have every incentive to keep quiet. This has nothing to do with a team giving a player a physical. The league, and teams, players, and agents, considering everyone seems to be aligned on getting this back going again, have every incentive to keep a more serious case quiet right now. Of course no deaths or whatever are being covered up, because obviously, but it would not be doing their current goal/end-game any benefit right now for someone to be talking about a case beyond 'yeah I had it, didn't really have any symptoms, just quarantined for 2 weeks.' If we heard player(s) talking about 'I was bed-ridden for 2 weeks, had trouble breathing, my family got it, but thankfully we are all recovered now,' we might be having a different conversation right now about restarting the league and there being optimism around it.MickeyDavis wrote:No one is going to be able to keep anything quiet. It's absurd.
I don't know if I could disagree more MD. There is no better time and circumstance than right now for something to go under the radar. People are stuck at home and the sports world is dead.
It's not like Shams or Woj have to be on site to get info. They have the same sources as they've always had. Players/agents/teams can try to hide things for awhile. It's not happening.
Chuck Diesel wrote:To act like Shams & Woj are some beacons of unassailable truth & don't have also a vested monetary interest in seeing the season return is what's really absurd.
Badgerlander wrote:Every player will get a complete physical at the start of training camp and the amount of stuff that they monitor with wearables these days is crazy. Plus the idea that a player wouldn’t reach out to their teams medical staff if they were feeling symptomatic is crazy, the nba has some of the best medical staffs in the world.
paulpressey25 wrote:Lippo wrote:How long til some low life like Marcus Smart contracts it 30 mins before game 1 and rubs and spits all over Giannis so they both get held out the next 14 days, or more likely Celts are down 3-0 and he does it to screw us in the next round cause he’s a soar loser...
Covid sniping, worse than flopping or provoking into a fight...
Marcus Smart already has had it and recovered about two months ago. Said he really didn’t have symptoms.
Lippo wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:Lippo wrote:How long til some low life like Marcus Smart contracts it 30 mins before game 1 and rubs and spits all over Giannis so they both get held out the next 14 days, or more likely Celts are down 3-0 and he does it to screw us in the next round cause he’s a soar loser...
Covid sniping, worse than flopping or provoking into a fight...
Marcus Smart already has had it and recovered about two months ago. Said he really didn’t have symptoms.
Even worse, he could drink a bottle of saliva of some covid patient in game, spit all over Giannis, and be immune himself....Giannis tests +, no Giannis for 2 weeks, this type of **** might happen if they don’t feel like it will actually hurt the player long term, if guys like Zara stick their feet out to hurt Leonard, this will happen too, and won’t be traceable really...