Wisconsin Badgers Thread

buckboy · Post #61 » by **buckboy** » Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:09 am

trwi7 wrote:Trying to think what Florida State adds. Maybe if they were still good at football. UNC would add far more than Florida State if we wanted to poach the ACC.

Right. And UNC is a representative school academically.

Post #62 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:11 am

buckboy wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
buckboy wrote:Florida St and MIami are not in the academic category the Big 10 wants. Oregon isn't great either, but at least they're AAU.

No one cares about this either.

Except the member schools.

Not since big college football TV rights got involved.

DingleJerry · Post #63 » by **DingleJerry** » Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:30 am

UNC was a target several years ago on one of the other expansions, along with UVA. UNC fits all the academic needs and is good at both sports and it would've covered another region of the country for TV. You don't think of Carolina as a big market but put all the cities together and its legit, and idk maybe the ATL tv market would be with them. As long as you don't have to take Duke with them UNC is a great fit, and at least isn't a WTF in terms of geography like the Cali schools are, especially since you have MD and the other eastern teams. Carolina also figures to be a growing area in terms of population as well

Post #64 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:41 am

buckboy wrote:
trwi7 wrote:Trying to think what Florida State adds. Maybe if they were still good at football. UNC would add far more than Florida State if we wanted to poach the ACC.

Right. And UNC is a representative school academically.

Florida State is ranked #55.

Big 10 schools below that mark:

Nebraska (136)
Iowa (83 tie [tie])
MSU (83 [tie])
Indiana (68 [tie])
Minnesota (68 [tie]
Penn State (63 [tie])
Rutgers (63 [tie])
Maryland (59 [tie])

Schools just ahead:

Ohio State (49)
Purdue (49)
Illinois (47)
Wisconsin (42)

And FSU brings CFB viewers, which is all that matters.

Mags FTW · Post #65 » by **Mags FTW** » Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:13 pm

FSU hasn't won 10 games since they had Jimbo in 2016. The most they've won since then is 7, and they've had 4 straight losing seasons.

I'm in no rush to add them to the B10.

jschligs · Post #66 » by **jschligs** » Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:51 pm

Mags FTW wrote:FSU hasn't won 10 games since they had Jimbo in 2016. The most they've won since then is 7, and they've had 4 straight losing seasons.

I'm in no rush to add them to the B10.

I'm in no rush but money talks. Highly rated academic school + huge viewing network = likely candidate to add.

buckboy · Post #67 » by **buckboy** » Wed Jul 27, 2022 1:09 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
buckboy wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
No one cares about this either.

Except the member schools.

Not since big college football TV rights got involved.

I mean, we'll see. They've never added a non-AAU school, so it would be a departure from the norm.

Diggr14 · Post #68 » by **Diggr14** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:42 pm

Big Ten should cut Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, and Northwestern... because Minnesota, Iowa, and Illinois suck.

Then add Notre Dame, Stanford, Duke, and The Detroit Lions.

Post #69 » by **humanrefutation** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:47 pm

They want to get into the Florida market and the ACC looks ripe to poach. That's what drives FSU and Miami, IMO. They'll have to get out of their ACC TV rights deal, though.

Mags FTW · Post #70 » by **Mags FTW** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:48 pm

humanrefutation wrote:They want to get into the Florida market and the ACC looks ripe to poach. That's what drives FSU and Miami, IMO. They'll have to get out of their ACC TV rights deal, though.

I'm curious what the percentage of fans in each Florida market is for Florida St. vs. Miami. Might be more beneficial to go after Miami.

ReginaldDwight · Post #71 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:32 pm

Mags FTW wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:They want to get into the Florida market and the ACC looks ripe to poach. That's what drives FSU and Miami, IMO. They'll have to get out of their ACC TV rights deal, though.

I'm curious what the percentage of fans in each Florida market is for Florida St. vs. Miami. Might be more beneficial to go after Miami.

Florida St has double the number of students than Miami which leads to a much larger alumni base. I believe florida st is the biggest university in Florida.

Licensed to Il · Post #72 » by **Licensed to Il** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:59 pm

ReginaldDwight wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:They want to get into the Florida market and the ACC looks ripe to poach. That's what drives FSU and Miami, IMO. They'll have to get out of their ACC TV rights deal, though.

I'm curious what the percentage of fans in each Florida market is for Florida St. vs. Miami. Might be more beneficial to go after Miami.

Florida St has double the number of students than Miami which leads to a much larger alumni base. I believe florida st is the biggest university in Florida.

Miami had the Rock, but FSU has Burt Renolds. To me, the decision comes down to those two. Do you want the Scorpion King? Or Smokey and the Bandit?

KidA24 · Post #73 » by **KidA24** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:45 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:I'm curious what the percentage of fans in each Florida market is for Florida St. vs. Miami. Might be more beneficial to go after Miami.

Florida St has double the number of students than Miami which leads to a much larger alumni base. I believe florida st is the biggest university in Florida.

Miami had the Rock, but FSU has Burt Renolds. To me, the decision comes down to those two. Do you want the Scorpion King? Or Smokey and the Bandit?

Everyone knows Gator wins out.

Watch on YouTube

midranger · Post #74 » by **midranger** » Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:22 pm

Can’t see the “Tomahawk Chop” on display every game being a strong cultural fit in the Big Ten. But they looked the other way with institutionalized pedophilia, so who knows?

ReginaldDwight · Post #75 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:10 pm

midranger wrote:Can’t see the “Tomahawk Chop” on display every game being a strong cultural fit in the Big Ten. But they looked the other way with institutionalized pedophilia, so who knows?

The Big10's holier than thou attitude is kind of played out after Penn St. and Michigan St. both decided to try and coverup sexual assault isnt it?

Diggr14 · Post #76 » by **Diggr14** » Wed Aug 3, 2022 7:57 pm

ReginaldDwight wrote:
midranger wrote:Can’t see the “Tomahawk Chop” on display every game being a strong cultural fit in the Big Ten. But they looked the other way with institutionalized pedophilia, so who knows?

The Big10's holier than thou attitude is kind of played out after Penn St. and Michigan St. both decided to try and coverup sexual assault isnt it?

No institution in the world is free and clear of sexual assault. Really tough to throw specific ones under the bus anymore.. even the catholic church and the boy scouts got issues. Im sure every university does too.

jschligs · Post #77 » by **jschligs** » Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:15 pm

Diggr14 wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:
midranger wrote:Can’t see the “Tomahawk Chop” on display every game being a strong cultural fit in the Big Ten. But they looked the other way with institutionalized pedophilia, so who knows?

The Big10's holier than thou attitude is kind of played out after Penn St. and Michigan St. both decided to try and coverup sexual assault isnt it?

No institution in the world is free and clear of sexual assault. Really tough to throw specific ones under the bus anymore.. even the catholic church and the boy scouts got issues. Im sure every university does too.

Sure, but nowhere near to the extent that MSU and Penn St. did along with the cover up.

DingleJerry · Post #78 » by **DingleJerry** » Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:18 pm

Didn't read the details, but I saw a tweet of a walk on commitment of someone who turned down other D1 offers. Relevant to the recent discussion the Gard's kid level walkons vs this tier who have a chance of competing for time/minutes. Just pointing out UW does get them just like you'd expect they should and using a few spots on guys who have no chance is irrelevant to it.

KidA24 · Post #79 » by **KidA24** » Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:19 pm

jschligs wrote:
Diggr14 wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:The Big10's holier than thou attitude is kind of played out after Penn St. and Michigan St. both decided to try and coverup sexual assault isnt it?

No institution in the world is free and clear of sexual assault. Really tough to throw specific ones under the bus anymore.. even the catholic church and the boy scouts got issues. Im sure every university does too.

Sure, but nowhere near to the extent that MSU and Penn St. did along with the cover up.

They are, most likely, just better at covering it up.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-marquette-sex-cases-20111028-story.html

jschligs · Post #80 » by **jschligs** » Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:22 pm

KidA24 wrote:
jschligs wrote:
Diggr14 wrote:
No institution in the world is free and clear of sexual assault. Really tough to throw specific ones under the bus anymore.. even the catholic church and the boy scouts got issues. Im sure every university does too.

Sure, but nowhere near to the extent that MSU and Penn St. did along with the cover up.

They are, most likely, just better at covering it up.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-marquette-sex-cases-20111028-story.html

Oh for sure, I know we can find a million examples of it. But when it's coming from people of power, not the just the cover up, but the assault and abuse, then it's an even bigger issue. Student athletes have power, yes, but nowhere the power that Nassar and Sandusky did.