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Post#61 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:42 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:There's plenty of 30 year old journey men who make impacts in spots, I'm saying I don't think Delon at backup point guard is utilizing any of his skills. He's currently the point guard in Giannis/Bobby/Pat lineups, pretty trash roll out to begin with that is exacerbated by not having a point guard to settle things down when they get too idiot Bobby/Giannis heavy.


I understand your point. I just think he’s washed.

BBReference has a neat stat feature that lets you sort a players top 20 statistical games for a number of categories. Most of Wright’s impact came in the 2016-2021 period.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wrighde01.html

Can he still make a great play? Sure. But at this point he’s just a guy.
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Post#62 » by Plossum » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:44 am

It’s amazing how all good three point shooter come to die in Milwaukee.
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Post#63 » by Plossum » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:45 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:There's plenty of 30 year old journey men who make impacts in spots, I'm saying I don't think Delon at backup point guard is utilizing any of his skills. He's currently the point guard in Giannis/Bobby/Pat lineups, pretty trash roll out to begin with that is exacerbated by not having a point guard to settle things down when they get too idiot Bobby/Giannis heavy.


I understand your point. I just think he’s washed.

BBReference has a neat stat feature that lets you sort a players top 20 statistical games for a number of categories. Most of Wright’s impact came in the 2016-2021 period.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wrighde01.html

Can he still make a great play? Sure. But at this point he’s just a guy.

Was he ever really any good though? I mean it was worth a try at a vet min deal but even Miami couldn’t squeeze any juice from that lemon.
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Post#64 » by El Pooch Grande » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:46 am

We need a poll up on whether the Championship Window is closed
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Post#65 » by kanyon » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:46 am

Doc circled Peyton Pritchard's name and said, "this is the guy who will single handedly cook us and we won't do anything about it."
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Post#66 » by Matches Malone » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:47 am

Is this how Jets fans feel right now?
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Post#67 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:48 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:There's plenty of 30 year old journey men who make impacts in spots, I'm saying I don't think Delon at backup point guard is utilizing any of his skills. He's currently the point guard in Giannis/Bobby/Pat lineups, pretty trash roll out to begin with that is exacerbated by not having a point guard to settle things down when they get too idiot Bobby/Giannis heavy.


I understand your point. I just think he’s washed.

BBReference has a neat stat feature that lets you sort a players top 20 statistical games for a number of categories. Most of Wright’s impact came in the 2016-2021 period.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wrighde01.html

Can he still make a great play? Sure. But at this point he’s just a guy.

Agree in some ways, in others no. Just a guy? Probably. A guy who I think still has show recently that his particular set of skills can impact games? Yeah, kinda. Do I think he's a point guard? No. Do I think he's a point of attack defender? No. The last two seasons he's been a guy who creates defensive disruption at a pretty high level though. Using over 500 minutes played to cut down some fluff, per 48 Delon the last two seasons was at 5.2 and 6.4 deflections, good for 13th last season and 3rd the year before. Through 4 games in Milwaukee he's at 2 a game/48.
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Post#68 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:51 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:We need a poll up on whether the Championship Window is closed

That's already discussed enough in every thread on the board
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Post#69 » by kanyon » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:51 am

Wright definitely seems unsure and tentative whenever the ball is in his hands.
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Post#70 » by Ryan5UW » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:51 am

BUCKnation wrote:Everybody knows back to backs dont count


It was funny when Lisa used this being the second of a back to back to explain why the team looked worn out.

It's game 4 of the season, Lisa. They look gassed because they're old and slow.
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Post#71 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:52 am

If Wright wasn't mentioned here I wouldn't have any clue he was on the roster.
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Post#72 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:53 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:We need a poll up on whether the Championship Window is closed


Let’s give it a couple weeks. We’ve got perhaps the most experienced, deepest and highly paid coaching staff in the league. I’m sure they’ll figure it out.

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Post#73 » by Plossum » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:14 am

Life comes at you fast in the NBA. Even Denver is starting to look a bit Bucks West.
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Post#74 » by James1980 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:25 am

GoldenAntlers wrote:I don't see it with Prince. Trent...not a lot going on there. Wright who? What rookies? Young guys? Never heard of 'em.


Are we really blaming our 3 minimum deal signings?
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Post#75 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:30 am

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GoldenAntlers wrote:I don't see it with Prince. Trent...not a lot going on there. Wright who? What rookies? Young guys? Never heard of 'em.


Are we really blaming our 3 minimum deal signings?


I think we hoped we'd get just a slight bit more from them than we have. They looked good in the opener against Philly's G-League team. But since then not much.
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Post#76 » by kanyon » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:34 am

Was there a graphic I saw that said Giannis/Dame pick n roll is 29th in the league?
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Post#77 » by James1980 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:35 am

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James1980 wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:I don't see it with Prince. Trent...not a lot going on there. Wright who? What rookies? Young guys? Never heard of 'em.


Are we really blaming our 3 minimum deal signings?


I think we hoped we'd get just a slight bit more from them than we have. They looked good in the opener against Philly's G-League team. But since then not much.


I missed last 2 games, saw Philly and tonight, we were in game for the first half. Dont get Pat getting minutes oveer AJ Green and AJax.
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Post#78 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:35 am

mattg wrote:The creative move is to trade Giannis for an absolute monster return of prospects, picks, and win now pieces that lets you rebuild on the fly before he either gets hurt, or everyone else figures out that Giannis is not who Giannis used to be.


Giannis is the franchise. He's put the team and city on the map. And been loyal to the point of taking less lucrative contracts to stay here. I don't entertain trades for him, unless he determines he wants to move on. He's our Dirk and would like him to retire a Buck.

Now, the other guys on the roster....the coach...the GM......trade/fire away.
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Post#79 » by KidA24 » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:39 am

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steger_3434 wrote:Khris has made $778,000 per game played the past two years and it keeps rising. Thats more than the majority of superstars let alone guys who are “3rd” stars on their team. That’s a problem when you play in a league with a salary cap and penalties for going over it.


The contract Khris has isn’t stopping us from anything. It was a very fair deal when signed. The problem is we got nostalgic (and maybe bound by Giannis) from dealing him two years ago.

Gianni’s has made 639,000 per game played over the same period of time. Khris being unavailable is a major problem no matter how friendly his deal was. He makes damn near $150,000 more than Gianni’s per game actually played the past 2 plus years


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Post#80 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:49 am

paulpressey25 wrote:The guys on the Ricky Sanchez pod (Sixers) hate Doc with the power of one thousand suns. They call him lazy, incompetent and a big phony. I tried for the past year to rationalize that Spike and Mike’s thoughts were way over the top.

They weren’t.

at any point between 2019 and summer of 2023 you said that we should fire bud and hire doc, everyone on this board would've lost their mind. the only reason we were ok with it is because AG was so bad. it was optically practical at the time, but I think we all knew at the time we were better off running with Prunty and seeing who was available in the offseason

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