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Post#62 » by KidA24 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:08 am

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soboMP3 wrote:I go back and forth on the Dame trade. But watching him and Brooke run a few two-mans in the second with ease to build the lead was something. Giannis and him still can’t do it. And it’s because Giannis has to be one of the worst players I’ve ever seen trying to set a pick. It’s actually comically embarrassing. Like, it’s so lazy I don’t even know what to say. Half the time it’s not even on the side it should be. And when it is, he sets up about 2 feet from the defender.


No, it's because defenses play it differently. If they give Brook any attention on the roll, Dame kicks to Giannis who's 1 on 1 with a head of steam. That's why they airways have Giannis cutting on the weakside.


So, you're saying that teams are leaving shooters wide open to triple or quadruple the Dame Giannis action and Dame isn't passing the ball? Lol
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Post#63 » by fansinceforever » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:08 am

randy84 wrote:So what win-now piece will Horst trade AJ Green for?


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Post#64 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:18 am

randy84 wrote:So what win-now piece will Horst trade AJ Green for?


George Hill or Wesley Matthews of course
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Post#66 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:22 am

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soboMP3 wrote:I go back and forth on the Dame trade. But watching him and Brooke run a few two-mans in the second with ease to build the lead was something. Giannis and him still can’t do it. And it’s because Giannis has to be one of the worst players I’ve ever seen trying to set a pick. It’s actually comically embarrassing. Like, it’s so lazy I don’t even know what to say. Half the time it’s not even on the side it should be. And when it is, he sets up about 2 feet from the defender.


No, it's because defenses play it differently. If they give Brook any attention on the roll, Dame kicks to Giannis who's 1 on 1 with a head of steam. That's why they airways have Giannis cutting on the weakside.


So, you're saying that teams are leaving shooters wide open to triple or quadruple the Dame Giannis action and Dame isn't passing the ball? Lol


Where do you think his 10 assists came from tonight?
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Post#67 » by Dick Tate » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:29 am

JayMKE wrote:AJ Green nation rise up

My “Green should be starting” drum is in my lap and I’m beating it!
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Post#69 » by jschligs » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:53 am

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Post#70 » by soboMP3 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:57 am

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soboMP3 wrote:I go back and forth on the Dame trade. But watching him and Brooke run a few two-mans in the second with ease to build the lead was something. Giannis and him still can’t do it. And it’s because Giannis has to be one of the worst players I’ve ever seen trying to set a pick. It’s actually comically embarrassing. Like, it’s so lazy I don’t even know what to say. Half the time it’s not even on the side it should be. And when it is, he sets up about 2 feet from the defender.


No, it's because defenses play it differently. If they give Brook any attention on the roll, Dame kicks to Giannis who's 1 on 1 with a head of steam. That's why they always have Giannis cutting on the weakside.

Look, Giannis will go down as my favorite Buck in my lifetime. But he is absolutely terrible at this. It’s not debatable. How he hasn’t been called out on this by coaching staffs is insanity. He is an all muscle 6’11 man. Put your hands on your balls and set a damn pick lol. He can’t, or won’t do it.

Like just watch any game where he hands the ball off to Dame. He does this half-assed move you might call a pick and it results in stagnant offense. I *love* Giannis. But it’s an absolute weak point in his game. And it’s been magnified by him asking for a true PnR player like Dame.
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Post#71 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:58 am

I was impressed with the action we were running this game and on D we mostly were challenging shots.

I think I saw like 4 or 5 lobs by us today and another 4 or 5 finds on cuts.. tons of "1 more pass" to find good shooters standing alone off of gravity or drive and kick. I liked that pick and roll pass to the ft line area and the catcher there with a triple threat and great passing angles
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Post#72 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:12 am

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soboMP3 wrote:I go back and forth on the Dame trade. But watching him and Brooke run a few two-mans in the second with ease to build the lead was something. Giannis and him still can’t do it. And it’s because Giannis has to be one of the worst players I’ve ever seen trying to set a pick. It’s actually comically embarrassing. Like, it’s so lazy I don’t even know what to say. Half the time it’s not even on the side it should be. And when it is, he sets up about 2 feet from the defender.


No, it's because defenses play it differently. If they give Brook any attention on the roll, Dame kicks to Giannis who's 1 on 1 with a head of steam. That's why they always have Giannis cutting on the weakside.

Look, Giannis will go down as my favorite Buck in my lifetime. But he is absolutely terrible at this. It’s not debatable. How he hasn’t been called out on this by coaching staffs is insanity. He is an all muscle 6’11 man. Put your hands on your balls and set a damn pick lol. He can’t, or won’t do it.

Like just watch any game where he hands the ball off to Dame. He does this half-assed move you might call a pick and it results in stagnant offense. I *love* Giannis. But it’s an absolute weak point in his game. And it’s been magnified by him asking for a true PnR player like Dame.


Meh.. I think we can work around it.. Giannis has so many ways to attack and stay involved even from the weak side. Brook is doing fine as the main screener and getting catches closer to the paint/passing/driving/shooting
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Post#73 » by emunney » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:41 am

-Jragon- wrote:I was impressed with the action we were running this game and on D we mostly were challenging shots.

I think I saw like 4 or 5 lobs by us today and another 4 or 5 finds on cuts.. tons of "1 more pass" to find good shooters standing alone off of gravity or drive and kick. I liked that pick and roll pass to the ft line area and the catcher there with a triple threat and great passing angles


I will say the Bulls defense was perplexing. Like why would you let Giannis catch the ball uncontested at the elbow, and then immediately have to send help? That was embarrassing.

Vuc is really underrated as a bad defender. He's terrible.
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Post#74 » by soboMP3 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:49 am

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No, it's because defenses play it differently. If they give Brook any attention on the roll, Dame kicks to Giannis who's 1 on 1 with a head of steam. That's why they always have Giannis cutting on the weakside.

Look, Giannis will go down as my favorite Buck in my lifetime. But he is absolutely terrible at this. It’s not debatable. How he hasn’t been called out on this by coaching staffs is insanity. He is an all muscle 6’11 man. Put your hands on your balls and set a damn pick lol. He can’t, or won’t do it.

Like just watch any game where he hands the ball off to Dame. He does this half-assed move you might call a pick and it results in stagnant offense. I *love* Giannis. But it’s an absolute weak point in his game. And it’s been magnified by him asking for a true PnR player like Dame.


Meh.. I think we can work around it.. Giannis has so many ways to attack and stay involved even from the weak side. Brook is doing fine as the main screener and getting catches closer to the paint/passing/driving/shooting
My man… Rest my case. You might be the biggest Dame apologist on this site and your reply didn’t even mention him. Point is, for whatever reason, the Giannis/Dame pNr we’ve been clamoring for simply isn’t happening.
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Post#75 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:10 am

Interesting stat is how Brook has racked up steals this year vs typically. It’s early and not probably not sustainable but in 14 games this season, he has 19 steals which is almost half of his steals total from last year when he played 73 games.

Brook is definitely one of the most versatile and adaptable centers of all time. He is able to take on any role we need of him, elite scorer down low, perimeter, rim protector. We got extremely lucky to get him when we had probably the worst Center depth in the NBA at the time.

Was thinking about his career, probably one of the low key best centers of this generation. It’s pretty amazing that his effectiveness and activity is still there at age 36.
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Post#76 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:52 am

soboMP3 wrote:
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soboMP3 wrote:Look, Giannis will go down as my favorite Buck in my lifetime. But he is absolutely terrible at this. It’s not debatable. How he hasn’t been called out on this by coaching staffs is insanity. He is an all muscle 6’11 man. Put your hands on your balls and set a damn pick lol. He can’t, or won’t do it.

Like just watch any game where he hands the ball off to Dame. He does this half-assed move you might call a pick and it results in stagnant offense. I *love* Giannis. But it’s an absolute weak point in his game. And it’s been magnified by him asking for a true PnR player like Dame.


Meh.. I think we can work around it.. Giannis has so many ways to attack and stay involved even from the weak side. Brook is doing fine as the main screener and getting catches closer to the paint/passing/driving/shooting
My man… Rest my case. You might be the biggest Dame apologist on this site and your reply didn’t even mention him. Point is, for whatever reason, the Giannis/Dame pNr we’ve been clamoring for simply isn’t happening.


Apologist... lol

As if someone needs to apologize for being one of the best PG in the league.. I don't just like Dame; I like winning. I like when coaches and players adjust and use their strengths.

Brook and Dame got the pick and roll going.. GA can chill and watch the play develop and find an angle to slash, post, flash, putbacks... he's still getting the ball... also he's controlling his fast breaks, moving the ball.. he can do whatever and still gets like 40 without being good at picks because he's getting better at everything else.. less charges, better post ups, more passing out of traps

Anyways, we won.. enjoy it and save complaints for after we lose a couple
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Post#77 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:01 am

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:Interesting stat is how Brook has racked up steals this year vs typically. It’s early and not probably not sustainable but in 14 games this season, he has 19 steals which is almost half of his steals total from last year when he played 73 games.

Brook is definitely one of the most versatile and adaptable centers of all time. He is able to take on any role we need of him, elite scorer down low, perimeter, rim protector. We got extremely lucky to get him when we had probably the worst Center depth in the NBA at the time.

Was thinking about his career, probably one of the low key best centers of this generation. It’s pretty amazing that his effectiveness and activity is still there at age 36.


Great post. Seriously, above and beyond. I get frustrated when he gets those 0 - 6 shooting streaks and keeps firing but Brook has done everything and anything we've asked and has been versatile.. the amount of alters he creates is crazy.. his passing is underrated and it looks like we're running some offense through him at 36... impressive
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Post#78 » by aboveAverage » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:20 am

When do we have to start giving Doc credit for developing our young guys? Last season we thought we had no quality contributors other than our core 5-7 guys. Now we have young guys blossoming as we speak.

I’m really excited about this team. With Giannis playing at an MVP level, Khris coming back at some point, and a future trade, we could really have something here.
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Post#79 » by blazza18 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:23 am

Will be interested in seeing what our passing numbers are for this game. Feel like it had to be close to a season high there. Think the coaching staff need to continue to get these guys moving the ball because good things will happen if they do.
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Post#80 » by old skool » Thu Nov 21, 2024 7:41 am

Green should not start. He is too valuable with the second unit. More effective as a second unit scorer than he would be as a starter. Finished 5th in minutes for the Bucks.

Green withstood being hunted by the Bulls.

Portis struggled with the 3 turnovers, But 8/6/6 was a productive stat line and he hustled a lot. He did a lot of dirty work in 23 minutes. I know defense.

It is taking a herculean effort from Giannis to win these games. He can't do that all season.

Bucks allowing zero points in the last 4-minutes of consecutive games. That wins games.

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