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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#61 » by PG Graveyard » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:10 am

Seriously though what did we ever do to ESPN to deserve this coverage? They openly cheer against us the entire game.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#62 » by BigO » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:11 am

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MiltownMadness wrote:What's with this weird ass agenda :lol: Not sure what more you can ask of Dame tonight. Sounds like you just will dump on him if the Bucks take an L and tuck tail if they win


So your cool with the Celtics scoring on him everytime, and not drawing rim down the stretch?

In your eyes anytime the Bucks get scored on its the fault of Dame. Anything offensively will not help your point as always[/

Just like some who say whenever the Bucks do something bad, it's BP's fault.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#63 » by RogerMurdock » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:11 am

yannisk wrote:the main difference between the two teams is that is very easy for them to get mismatches

if Brown for example get with Lopez or Lillard it is a mismatch

while however they switch they will offer a competent defense since Jrue and White can defend bigger players and their forwards can defend guards (and Horford can defend Giannis in single coverage)


Pretty much. And it's why they are the best team in the league. They have no real weak link in their regular rotation. Just about all of them can defend one-on-one, so they don't need to help too much. And on offense, they move the ball so well and everyone can shoot.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#64 » by KidA24 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:11 am

I feel like the refusal to post Brook when he has Derrick White on him is a detriment to the team.

They did it twice. Both times ended with wide open 3s.

If Boston is going to switch everything, abuse it.

The Bucks are still playing my turn your turn instead of hunting the matchups.

Dame hunts sometimes. Giannis is too selfish to hunt.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#65 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:11 am

MiltownMadness wrote:Brook with the -14 in 38 minutes. He should not be playing vs. Boston, they hunt him in switches. Pretty obvious


Yeah, he missed bunnies, and wasn't a factor at the rim. Not sure who else you play though. We need to add a forward so Giannis can play center.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#66 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:12 am

BigO wrote:
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So your cool with the Celtics scoring on him everytime, and not drawing rim down the stretch?

In your eyes anytime the Bucks get scored on its the fault of Dame. Anything offensively will not help your point as always[/

Just like some who say whenever the Bucks do something bad, it's BP's fault.

BigO, I don't want to talk Bobby tonight. Sorry. He had lots of rebounds tho if that makes you smile
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#67 » by Bernman » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:12 am

yannisk wrote:the main difference between the two teams is that is very easy for them to get mismatches

if Brown for example get with Lopez or Lillard it is a mismatch

while however they switch they will offer a competent defense since Jrue and White can defend bigger players and their forwards can defend guards (and Horford can defend Giannis in single coverage)


That's avoidable, so I think your avatar is still appropriate. He's terrible at not just devolving to iso/hero ball late in games & doesn't match-up appropriately w/ Brook especially. Just irrationally trusts his stars/vets.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#68 » by SupremeHustle » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:12 am

BigO wrote:
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So your cool with the Celtics scoring on him everytime, and not drawing rim down the stretch?

In your eyes anytime the Bucks get scored on its the fault of Dame. Anything offensively will not help your point as always[/

Just like some who say whenever the Bucks do something bad, it's BP's fault.


When the Bucks look at the tape on this one they are going to be staring at Brook's defense a lot. But a big part of it is the scheme. Or the players not executing the scheme. I dunno.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#69 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:13 am

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MiltownMadness wrote:Brook with the -14 in 38 minutes. He should not be playing vs. Boston, they hunt him in switches. Pretty obvious


Yeah, he missed bunnies, and wasn't a factor at the rim. Not sure who else you play though. We need to add a forward so Giannis can play center.

We need to make a BP trade, really. Bobby has a special place in my heart but it's time if we want to be serious

We NEED another switchable big. It's a necessity
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#70 » by Daver » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:13 am

Bernman wrote:Another moral victory. Got to have a discussion about how Doc's Bucks struggle in the clutch when under Grief they were elite. They didn't run anything. Guys just iso'ed and chucked, or slung it immediately coming around the screen. And playing Brook down the stretch all the time who they can mismatch is questionable on the other end.

Certain things will get better. Like Giannis & co. could make more bunnies (though this is a regular problem against Horford). But others will get worse, like Bobby won't play d & rebound like that hardly ever (he'll shoot better).

Feels like they met or exceeded expectations, but yet it still shows 0-5 against Celts & Cavs. Should be 2-3 minimum. Maybe those are wins vs. the ilk of the Knicks & Mavs. This has been a very weird schedule. People will talk. 80% inaccurate, 20% accurate.





0-5 agsinst cavs n Cs point differential in those 5 gsmes is 18 points tbh should be 3-2 in thse 5 games.Bucks can beat both teams
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#71 » by bucksfansince88 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:13 am

We need a big strong athletic switchable big that can protect the rim. How Can we get Jalen Duren
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#72 » by Wooderson » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:13 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Brook with the -14 in 38 minutes. He should not be playing vs. Boston, they hunt him in switches. Pretty obvious


Yeah, he missed bunnies, and wasn't a factor at the rim. Not sure who else you play though. We need to add a forward so Giannis can play center.


I'm *hopeful* Doc sees the light with Giannis at C when Khris ramps up minutes and Prince is going. Problem is the odds all these pieces are healthy come playoff time ain't great
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#73 » by fansinceforever » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:14 am

MiltownMadness wrote:Brook with the -14 in 38 minutes. He should not be playing vs. Boston, they hunt him in switches. Pretty obvious


Not sure how they don't understand this.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#74 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:15 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Sucks to admit that they have no shot against Boston in a 7 game series


Nah, because we lost a close road game?
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#75 » by Bernman » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:15 am

Daver wrote:0-5 agsinst cavs n Cs point differential in those 5 gsmes is 18 points tbh should be 3-2 in thse 5 games.Bucks can beat both teams


They can, but we need to have a conversation about Doc being a terrible gameplanner at the start of games, 2nd halves, & in crunch time. It's when these deficiencies rear their ugly head.

We took for granted we'd be great in close games under Grief because we had Dame, Giannis, & Middleton. But that hasn't carried over, and for whatever reason he skates for it.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#76 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:16 am

Vs. Boston when Khris is acclimated

Dame
AJJ/Green/GTJ
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Khris
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Go small, beat them at their own game with a big dose of Giannis bully ball. We can beat these dudes
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#77 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:16 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
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MiltownMadness wrote:Brook with the -14 in 38 minutes. He should not be playing vs. Boston, they hunt him in switches. Pretty obvious


Yeah, he missed bunnies, and wasn't a factor at the rim. Not sure who else you play though. We need to add a forward so Giannis can play center.

We need to make a BP trade, really. Bobby has a special place in my heart but it's time if we want to be serious

We NEED another switchable big. It's a necessity


I don't think a big helps you much against Boston. A quick combo forward would.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#78 » by SupremeHustle » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:17 am

bucksfansince88 wrote:We need a big strong athletic switchable big that can protect the rim. How Can we get Jalen Duren


Even Beef Stew would make a difference. Even Walker Kessler. Is Claxton gettable?
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#79 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:17 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
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Yeah, he missed bunnies, and wasn't a factor at the rim. Not sure who else you play though. We need to add a forward so Giannis can play center.

We need to make a BP trade, really. Bobby has a special place in my heart but it's time if we want to be serious

We NEED another switchable big. It's a necessity


I don't think a big helps you much against Boston. A quick combo forward would.

That combo forward could play PF in a small ball lineup. We need to be switchable vs them, that's all
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#80 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:19 am

bucksfansince88 wrote:We need a big strong athletic switchable big that can protect the rim. How Can we get Jalen Duren


You can't really rim protect against Boston, they spread you out.

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