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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#61 » by randy84 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:22 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Dame and Bobby for Jimmy and Herro

Dame and the 2031 for Fox and Keegan

Dame for VanVleet and Eason

Choose your own Adventure but he’s the only real tradable asset we have and he’s depreciating by the month.

Dame goes 23 and 7 and the board kills him. Van Vleet goes 5 and 7 on 12.5% shooting and the Bucks forum is like, let's trade Dame for that guy.

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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#62 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:25 am

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WiscoKing13 wrote:Seems a bit over dramatic. Tickets are super cheap and if everyone is healthy it will be my first game of the year.

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I didn't say I don't go to any games. I said I go to fewer games. That's smart not dramatic. Cost of tickets has nothing to do with it. I'll gladly pay more to see a better product.
I am to the point of not even tuning in anymore. It's Just getting old.
I've chalked most of these winnable games up to an expectation that it will only be interesting the final 6 minutes of the game and barely watch. It's sad. I love this team, but really some terrible basketball being played this season with spurts of championship glamour.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#63 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:29 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Dame and Bobby for Jimmy and Herro

Dame and the 2031 for Fox and Keegan

Dame for VanVleet and Eason

Choose your own Adventure but he’s the only real tradable asset we have and he’s depreciating by the month.

Dame goes 23 and 7 and the board kills him. Van Vleet goes 5 and 7 on 12.5% shooting and the Bucks forum is like, let's trade Dame for that guy.

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Van Vleet is the salary throw in.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#64 » by msiris » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:29 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:I didn't say I don't go to any games. I said I go to fewer games. That's smart not dramatic. Cost of tickets has nothing to do with it. I'll gladly pay more to see a better product.
I am to the point of not even tuning in anymore. It's Just getting old.
I've chalked most of these winnable games up to an expectation that it will only be interesting the final 6 minutes of the game and barely watch. It's sad. I love this team, but really some terrible basketball being played this season with spurts of championship glamour.
Those championship spurts are far and few in between. BTSU.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#65 » by RiotPunch » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:36 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Dame and Bobby for Jimmy and Herro

Dame and the 2031 for Fox and Keegan

Dame for VanVleet and Eason

Choose your own Adventure but he’s the only real tradable asset we have and he’s depreciating by the month.

Horst has been slowly building a positive relationship with the Klutch republic-- if he could pull off a deal for Fox, that would be the way to go.

I still think he's a good kid and his speed with Giannis would be insane. I'd throw in Portis for Lyles to get Keegan as well, if necessary.

Dame / Ellis / DeRozan / Portis / Sabonis, is Vivek dumb enough to look at that and say, "yes?" Maybe.
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Post#66 » by yb90 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:41 am

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blazza18 wrote:This only solves tonight's issues but kinda need the best rim scorer in the league to make a pretty easy finish. As I said in the GT his touch lets him down in these moments all the time.

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yeah, the 7 footer driving full speed while simultaneously trying to get separation by moving one arm towards the basketball while moving the hand with the ball in the opposite direction to cleanly get the ball off the glass while while a 7 footer is all over him ....lacks touch


Yeah, he should have got free throws, but this is exactly why he shot a pull up earlier in the season.

I think he tries to use his speed some times too much and needs to slow down and gather himself so he can go up with more power. I'm really nitpicking but sometimes he has games where he is a tick off.

Ultimately, Dame and Giannis are not back physically and it shows in how they are not playing through contact as well as they usually do. They are also getting winded quickly. I think it's going to take a week for them to get back right.
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Post#67 » by RiotPunch » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:44 am

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:yeah, the 7 footer driving full speed while simultaneously trying to get separation by moving one arm towards the basketball while moving the hand with the ball in the opposite direction to cleanly get the ball off the glass while while a 7 footer is all over him ....lacks touch


Yeah, he should have got free throws, but this is exactly why he shot a pull up earlier in the season.

I think he tries to use his speed some times too much and needs to slow down and gather himself so he can go up with more power. I'm really nitpicking but sometimes he has games where he is a tick off.

Ultimately, Dame and Giannis are not back physically and it shows in how they are not playing through contact as well as they usually do. They are also getting winded quickly.

Giannis is out there chasing cars, doesn't always know what to do when he catches one. Prime objective is to steam roll to the cup, once there he is almost surprised to have a clean-ish look. No bucket, no foul, pain. God love him, though.
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Post#68 » by fan230 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:48 am

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fan230 wrote:Unfortunately Khris is not as good as he was.
Neither is Dame


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Post#69 » by msiris » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:51 am

yb90 wrote:
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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:yeah, the 7 footer driving full speed while simultaneously trying to get separation by moving one arm towards the basketball while moving the hand with the ball in the opposite direction to cleanly get the ball off the glass while while a 7 footer is all over him ....lacks touch


Yeah, he should have got free throws, but this is exactly why he shot a pull up earlier in the season.



Ultimately, Dame and Giannis are not back physically and it shows in how they are not playing through contact as well as they usually do. They are also getting winded quickly. I think it's going to take a week for them to get back right.
Just more excuses. Sorry but just BTSU.
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Post#70 » by randy84 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:52 am

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randy84 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Dame and Bobby for Jimmy and Herro

Dame and the 2031 for Fox and Keegan

Dame for VanVleet and Eason

Choose your own Adventure but he’s the only real tradable asset we have and he’s depreciating by the month.

Dame goes 23 and 7 and the board kills him. Van Vleet goes 5 and 7 on 12.5% shooting and the Bucks forum is like, let's trade Dame for that guy.

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Van Vleet is the salary throw in.

If the goal is Eason, then just trade them Lopez.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#71 » by jschligs » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:52 am

fan230 wrote:
msiris wrote:
fan230 wrote:Unfortunately Khris is not as good as he was.
Neither is Dame


Yes agree


While I agree, Dame is actually back to nearly his season average from deep, and one more assist. I think the thing I've noticed (and maybe this was always him) is he doesn't take over nearly as much as he used to. He also is more streaky than I'd have expected. Granted he's actually above his career average PPG but about 5ppg off his peak. With good reason, Giannis is here.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#72 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:53 am

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Van Vleet is the salary throw in.


Not quite that bad, but he’s the more than acceptable PG that we ride for a year or two. And Eason is the poor man’s Kawhi that you hope makes one more leap in him since he’s only 23.

Honestly believe this team has a higher ceiling if they can pull off this deal. Right now they’re going nowhere.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#73 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:54 am

randy84 wrote:If the goal is Eason, then just trade them Lopez.


Vivek doesn’t own the Rockets.
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Post#74 » by fan230 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:55 am

Dame is probably overall a better player than Butler but Dame is either coasting or his heart is not in Milwaukee or he is coasting & hoping he can create Dame Time and get accolades.

On a different note, would cj mccollum be gettable for even Khris maybe? Is that a good or bad idea?
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Post#75 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:55 am

randy84 wrote:
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randy84 wrote:Dame goes 23 and 7 and the board kills him. Van Vleet goes 5 and 7 on 12.5% shooting and the Bucks forum is like, let's trade Dame for that guy.

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Van Vleet is the salary throw in.

If the goal is Eason, then just trade them Lopez.


Eason's one of the most valuable young forwards in the league. Dame's probably not getting him.
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Post#76 » by msiris » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:56 am

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msiris wrote:Neither is Dame


Yes agree


While I agree, Dame is actually back to nearly his season average from deep, and one more assist. I think the thing I've noticed (and maybe this was always him) is he doesn't take over nearly as much as he used to. He also is more streaky than I'd have expected. Granted he's actually above his career average PPG but about 5ppg off his peak. With good reason, Giannis is here.
The biggest problem with him is that when he is off his D liability is even more pronounced.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#77 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:58 am

randy84 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Dame and Bobby for Jimmy and Herro

Dame and the 2031 for Fox and Keegan

Dame for VanVleet and Eason

Choose your own Adventure but he’s the only real tradable asset we have and he’s depreciating by the month.

Dame goes 23 and 7 and the board kills him. Van Vleet goes 5 and 7 on 12.5% shooting and the Bucks forum is like, let's trade Dame for that guy.

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Dame shot 6-20 while being terrible on defense and giving just pathetic effort. I don't want FVV, but at least he shows up every night.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#78 » by randy84 » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:02 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
randy84 wrote:If the goal is Eason, then just trade them Lopez.


Vivek doesn’t own the Rockets.

No he doesn't, but for some reason the Rockets want Lopez when he was a free agent so there still might be some interest there.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#79 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:12 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
blazza18 wrote:This only solves tonight's issues but kinda need the best rim scorer in the league to make a pretty easy finish. As I said in the GT his touch lets him down in these moments all the time.

Read on Twitter

yeah, the 7 footer driving full speed while simultaneously trying to get separation by moving one arm towards the basketball while moving the hand with the ball in the opposite direction to cleanly get the ball off the glass while while a 7 footer is all over him ....lacks touch


Yeah, he should have got free throws, but this is exactly why he shot a pull up earlier in the season.


It should also be noted that the screener completely botches his job here.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#80 » by aboveAverage » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:18 am

Being at the game tonight, it was really apparent that the guys didn’t care about the game until 6 minutes left in the fourth quarter. When they started playing better defense and hustling more, the offense improved and we made a comeback.

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