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mke_design · Post #61 » by **mke_design** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:15 am

CJTURT wrote:I’m so sick and tired of watching Damian Lillard. He’s such a fricking ball hog. All he does is just jack up shots. He never plays with any flow or rhythm with his other teammates. Send his ass and Gary Trent back on a plane to fukixing Portland where they came from.

Add him to a long list of stars the bucks got that I have 0 attachment to.

Bernman · Post #62 » by **Bernman** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:15 am

This has been a brutal stretch, undoing all the good work to gain separation from .500. Combo of schedule, availability, role flaws, coaching, & big 3 performance. It's been 1 step forward, then back, all season. Can't sustain momentum.

They brought out the worst of our brutal rebounding tonight. Don't box out and/or move to loose balls. At most we do 1. Obviously that needs to be addressed.

The roaming on d from bigs who can shoot also needs to stop. W/ Giannis that's a choice. + there's too much gambling. The slow feet are what they are. Again, they need complementary players. Some role guys need to move down the depth chart.

Dame could also try to be a professional. A lot of the ups and downs are just his personality if he's arsed to try that night. This was an odd one to be disengaged for. Really needed it.

Daver · Post #63 » by **Daver** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:16 am

Prez wrote:Even beyond the center position, which is a major problem and needs an overhaul, the fact that we're starting Taurean Prince and Dre as our wings is honestly embarrassing.

Yepper now butler would abdolutely upgrade the 3 spot does alot of the things this board wants on D as for jax he sucks wouldnt be a starter on sny other team yet he starts here.Im all for starting green there least he eill bring you some scoring

fansinceforever · Post #64 » by **fansinceforever** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:17 am

The dumbest thing this team can do is stand firm and keep lying to themselves about being able to contend. That's way over.

Jimmy probably isn't the answer but at least he makes it easier to clear the books for what this team will inevitably need to do this off-season.

PintSizedBox10 · Post #65 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:18 am

Team hasn't had a deep playoff run in years and doesn't look like that'll be changing any time soon.

Magic Giannison · Post #66 » by **Magic Giannison** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:20 am

BucksFanSD wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:For a former DPOY Giannis can be very disinterested in defense.

Id be disinterested as well if im carrying the load offensively by scoring 5 games 30+ while team is clowning around .

Yeah he wasnt good on defense tonight

In recent years I always wanted Giannis to get an additional 3 assist per game, a few less shots, and more effort on defense. I have only have felt this in recent years. He can be a monster on defense if chose to be. He wants the scoring title although he always claims he just wants to win... but I believe the above is a better recipe to win.

Unfortunately the team isnt build around like that to have the luxury of Giannis not passing or scoring less, he already does it in relatively low volume compared to others and his efficiency is nuts . Problem is Giannis being so good covered a lot of flaws in our team and we didnt make any moves to answer the holes on defense and age ....

Baddy Chuck · Post #67 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:21 am

Brook and Bobby aren't addition by subtraction guys but they're both guys who the larger role they play their weaknesses become glaring and detrimental. Going back and forth for years about one or the other when they're just the spiderman meme.

fan230 · Post #68 » by **fan230** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:22 am

Old team. Giannis is the only one who plays well and with full effort game after game.

Khris played very well today.

Dame time is a joke. He is a bad defender we know that; he was bad on offense also today. I doubt if he can improve.

Our defense cannot stop any team with quicker players (most teams are like that nowadays).

Doc absolutely needs to play Aj Johnson and Tyler Smith to see how they play. What is he waiting for? We need youth.

rilamann · Post #69 » by **rilamann** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:25 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
rilamann wrote:I have been saying it for a long time and I will continue to stand by it 110%.

Dame is a star but the team would be significantly better if you traded him for 2 solid role players.

When you consider Dame's status (Considered a star, on the 75th team ect) he has to be one of the most overrated players in the history of the league.

We can live with Dame having an occasional off night shooting. But you can’t live with him half-assing it with turnovers and no creative passing ability.

If you have a scenario where Giannis gets 40 and Dame gets 18 and the Bucks win.

Dame is picking the scenario where he gets 30+ and the Bucks lose.

Dame doesn't play for his teammates. Dame doesn't play for the city of Milwaukee. Dame doesn't play to win. Dame plays for Dame and only Dame.

Him and his PR team talk a good game, but he's not fooling me. He hasn't been fooling me for a long time.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #70 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:27 am

Bernman wrote:Dame could also try to be a professional. A lot of the ups and downs are just his personality if he's arsed to try that night. This was an odd one to be disengaged for. Really needed it.

We have a bunch of problems but this is the one that irks me the most.

jakecronus8 · Post #71 » by **jakecronus8** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:28 am

Convinced myself to go the Jimmy route. I’m off that. They need to squeeze any pick/young players they can out of every veteran not named Giannis. Need the blow up. All this team does is lose to good teams unless there is a fictional trophy on the line.

blazza18 · Post #72 » by **blazza18** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:29 am

That we are such a disaster without Bobby says so much about how poorly constructed this team really is.

PG Graveyard · Post #73 » by **PG Graveyard** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:30 am

Give the whole lot of them the night off tomorrow. They need a day off. We aren’t winning in OKC on a back to back anyways

yb90 · Post #74 » by **yb90** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:32 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:One thing I would like to see is Doc trusting Ajax more. Understand he's probably a frustrating as hell player to coach but he's the best at what we have to fill a hole the team needs. This is like the 3rd or 4th game I can remember in the past couple weeks where Ajax provided fine minutes, the team was playing well with him and then Doc just removes him from the game. Subbed out up 10 in the third quarter and didn't play the rest of the game. AJ and Khris played well so understandable but there's got to be minutes you can find for Ajax.

We are on the same page regarding AJax. When he is playing well play him. Doc would rather watch everyone else play poorly than live through a few mistakes from a second year player.

JayMKE · Post #75 » by **JayMKE** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:34 am

It’s hard to even get upset anymore when it’s so predictable, this team simply is not that good and is not a contender as currently constructed. Like to me it was obvious Dame was a bad fit almost immediately last season, he has his moments but he simply is not a winning team player. Everybody is old and dgaf about the regular season, it has no identity really on either side of the ball, to win with Giannis we gotta build around defense.

This offseason it’s time to reload around Giannis, I don’t think you need a total rebuild just get guys who play defense and can catch & shoot

msiris · Post #76 » by **msiris** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:37 am

Dame just doesn't play with a lot of fire most of time.

Baddy Chuck · Post #77 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:37 am

yb90 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:One thing I would like to see is Doc trusting Ajax more. Understand he's probably a frustrating as hell player to coach but he's the best at what we have to fill a hole the team needs. This is like the 3rd or 4th game I can remember in the past couple weeks where Ajax provided fine minutes, the team was playing well with him and then Doc just removes him from the game. Subbed out up 10 in the third quarter and didn't play the rest of the game. AJ and Khris played well so understandable but there's got to be minutes you can find for Ajax.

We are on the same page regarding AJax. When he is playing well play him. Doc would rather watch everyone else play poorly than live through a few mistakes from a second year player.

It's just so weird. We up 10 with 5 minutes left in the third and Ajax is subbed out. We end the quarter up 6 because of a AJ Green prayer after being pretty outplayed for those 5 minutes. We start the fourth just being run out the gym and lose the lead within a few minutes. The energy and effort defense guy on the team, who starts for that very reason, is not brought in at all the rest of the game. Just weird.

Bernman · Post #78 » by **Bernman** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:39 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:One thing I would like to see is Doc trusting Ajax more. Understand he's probably a frustrating as hell player to coach but he's the best at what we have to fill a hole the team needs. This is like the 3rd or 4th game I can remember in the past couple weeks where Ajax provided fine minutes, the team was playing well with him and then Doc just removes him from the game. Subbed out up 10 in the third quarter and didn't play the rest of the game. AJ and Khris played well so understandable but there's got to be minutes you can find for Ajax.

We've gotten diminishing returns in his net rating cuz teams know they can stick their rim protector on him. Edey guarded him. Also, he was poor on o. Kept over-committing and breaking down our d.

What we need is to get a wing defender who's smarter & not so dysfunctional on d. Until then, play Green more, & Ajax is a situational, limited minutes guy. If he's playing well, keep him out there. But this wasn't 1 of those games. It's the last thing Doc deserves a critique for. There are plenty legit reasons to rip him.

rilamann · Post #79 » by **rilamann** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:43 am

I knew this season was doomed back in October on media day when Giannis said that him and Dame had not gotten together 1 single time over the entire off season. Not 1 time. In an off-season that began the 1st of May.

Like I said back in October when people scoffed and said it was a nothing-burger. Do I think Giannis and Dame getting together a few times in the offseason would have made them that much better on the court together this season?

No.

But it showed an absolute and utter lack of commitment and sacrifice.

Now fast forward from the 1st of October to now February and through almost 50 games into the season, this team looks like it has an absolute and utter lack of commitment.

Post #80 » by **Prez** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:46 am

The lack of front court depth/athleticism is just a death sentence right now. We literally have just 2 bigs and 1 of them is an old/slow Brook, you’re not overcoming that especially given the guards aren’t good rebounders to compensate.

I do think a good chunk of it is fixable but it absolutely depends on them finding that 25-30 mpg athletic center at the deadline. If they could do that, you have the option of starting that guy and Brook slides into the backup role he should be in moving forward (unless he’s part of the trade, in which case I guess it’s Bobby as the backup. And having that athleticism at the 5 allows you to get AJ/Khris in the starting 5 and also slide Dre/Prince in the smaller bench roles they’re suited for.