Windhorst & Stein: Bucks trade Plumlee to Hornets for Hawes and Hibbert

[leroyjw10]

Say we can trade Henson for expirings and say Monroe does opt out, what do you guys want to do if we have basically max money to spend? Steph, Lowry, and Paul will all be free agents.

Those top PG's will be way out of our league but Jrue Holiday would be intriguing.

I'd take a run at Dedmon, like they should've done last year. Hopefully his price tag won't be too high this time around.

[randy84]

Call me crazy but I'm shocked people want to get rid of Monroe. I guess if you think he's going to opt out and get paid more elsewhere. I don't see a reason he can't stick around on a deal similar to what he makes now. He's a good player to have. I think we're still caught up on the fact that we gave him a max deal, even though we all knew the cap was going to skyrocket.

$17 million for a backup center. No thanks.

[randy84]

My goodness, you could offer a 1st with Plumlee and this trade still wouldn't be accepted in 2K

I know, I wonder how the whole thing played out
The Hornets were so dumb not to even ask for a pick?
Or maybe they did ask, and Hammond with the poker face said no and started walking towards the door?

Well I am sure it started with Cho calling Hammond. I can guarantee that Hammond never picked up the phone to call anyone.

[M-C-G]

My goodness, you could offer a 1st with Plumlee and this trade still wouldn't be accepted in 2K

I know, I wonder how the whole thing played out
The Hornets were so dumb not to even ask for a pick?
Or maybe they did ask, and Hammond with the poker face said no and started walking towards the door?

Well I am sure it started with Cho calling Hammond. I can guarantee that Hammond never picked up the phone to call anyone.

This is the most absurd narrative on these boards. Has any team done more trades than us over his tenure?


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[bigredbadger]

Say we can trade Henson for expirings and say Monroe does opt out, what do you guys want to do if we have basically max money to spend? Steph, Lowry, and Paul will all be free agents.

Those top PG's will be way out of our league but Jrue Holiday would be intriguing.

I'd take a run at Dedmon, like they should've done last year. Hopefully his price tag won't be too high this time around.

Jeff Teague would be intriguing

[vinnymate]

Call me crazy but I'm shocked people want to get rid of Monroe. I guess if you think he's going to opt out and get paid more elsewhere. I don't see a reason he can't stick around on a deal similar to what he makes now. He's a good player to have. I think we're still caught up on the fact that we gave him a max deal, even though we all knew the cap was going to skyrocket.

You're crazy.

But seriously, Monroe has had his time here...it's time to move on.

[pxp920]

Dedmond would be sweet, I would def go for it if oossible


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[worthlessBucks]

Hammond traded Jennings for Knight and Middleton
then Knight for MCW, Plumlee, Ennis
then MCW for Snell
then Ennis for Beasley
then Plumlee for Hibbert and Hawes

so Jennings -> Middleton, Beasley, Snell, Hibbert, Hawes

He is the gift that keeps on giving. A provider for generations.

[JimmyTheKid]

Call me crazy but I'm shocked people want to get rid of Monroe. I guess if you think he's going to opt out and get paid more elsewhere. I don't see a reason he can't stick around on a deal similar to what he makes now. He's a good player to have. I think we're still caught up on the fact that we gave him a max deal, even though we all knew the cap was going to skyrocket.

Monroe has really surprised me this year. Came in lean, gives max effort, took the new role in stride. That all said, he's not a guy I want to watch play for my favorite team for another year or more. Still a really bad defender and overall frustrating player. Sell "high" right now.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Say we can trade Henson for expirings and say Monroe does opt out, what do you guys want to do if we have basically max money to spend? Steph, Lowry, and Paul will all be free agents.

Those top PG's will be way out of our league but Jrue Holiday would be intriguing.

I'd take a run at Dedmon, like they should've done last year. Hopefully his price tag won't be too high this time around.

Dedmon has another year on his deal with the Spurs.

[DingleJerry]

My goodness, you could offer a 1st with Plumlee and this trade still wouldn't be accepted in 2K

I know, I wonder how the whole thing played out
The Hornets were so dumb not to even ask for a pick?
Or maybe they did ask, and Hammond with the poker face said no and started walking towards the door?

I thought maybe the GM is on the hot seat and knows he needs to make the playoffs to keep his job? So he thinks Plumlee fits better this year and doesn't care about down the line? And apparently they get a MLE now that they're over the cap. Otherwise I just don't get it from their end.

[Ron Swanson]

People want to trade Monroe because the playoffs are looking unlikely and he's probably opting out next season. You can get a decent asset for him.

[leroyjw10]

Those top PG's will be way out of our league but Jrue Holiday would be intriguing.

I'd take a run at Dedmon, like they should've done last year. Hopefully his price tag won't be too high this time around.

Dedmon has another year on his deal with the Spurs.

That's a player option. He'll get more than $3 million he'd get by picking it up.

[emunney]

Call me crazy but I'm shocked people want to get rid of Monroe. I guess if you think he's going to opt out and get paid more elsewhere. I don't see a reason he can't stick around on a deal similar to what he makes now. He's a good player to have. I think we're still caught up on the fact that we gave him a max deal, even though we all knew the cap was going to skyrocket.

$17 million for a backup center. No thanks.

If you were confident of him sustaining this level of play, 17m would be a good value even as a half timer.

[xTitan]

Hammond traded Jennings for Knight and Middleton
then Knight for MCW, Plumlee, Ennis
then MCW for Snell
then Ennis for Beasley
then Plumlee for Hibbert and Hawes

so Jennings -> Middleton, Beasley, Snell, Hibbert, Hawes

So Jennings for Middleton and Snell, the rest is garbage.......they could've had Middleton and a top 10 pick, that would actually be something

[ackypoo]

Hammond traded Jennings for Knight and Middleton
then Knight for MCW, Plumlee, Ennis
then MCW for Snell
then Ennis for Beasley
then Plumlee for Hibbert and Hawes

so Jennings -> Middleton, Beasley, Snell, Hibbert, Hawes

So Jennings for Middleton and Snell, the rest is garbage.......they could've had Middleton and a top 10 pick, that would actually be something

lets not forget the money wasted on these schmucks too.

[imithanos]

Charlotte just swallowed a massive dick and they don't even know it

It's not that they don't even know it, but that they thanked us for that.

Plumlee was the better player in the deal, but his contract was one of the worst in the league.
Maybe he'll start playing like late last season in an offensive system, that's based on pnr and can be utilized better from their coach, but it's not even close, that we won this trade. Although I'm curious how this season will continue, cause fixing your overload problem in center position by trading one center and getting two isn't exactly the best method.

Edit: Irish rainbow got the WD quotation, but I rushed to post when I saw Pachinko's post.

[DingleJerry]

Charlotte just swallowed a massive dick and they don't even know it

It's not that they don't even know it, but that they thanked us for that.

Plumlee was the better player in the deal, but his contract was one of the worst in the league.
Maybe he'll start playing like late last season in an offensive system, that's based on pnr and can be utilized better from their coach, but it's not even close, that we won this trade. Although I'm curious how this season will continue, cause fixing your overload problem in center position by trading one center and getting two isn't exactly the best method.

And if a real offensive system fixes Plumlee, yes it will be a bit frustrating. But we'll still be out of the contract and it'll be another thing to use as evidence of Kidd's bad Xs and Os coaching.

[glenn]

Call me crazy but I'm shocked people want to get rid of Monroe. I guess if you think he's going to opt out and get paid more elsewhere. I don't see a reason he can't stick around on a deal similar to what he makes now. He's a good player to have. I think we're still caught up on the fact that we gave him a max deal, even though we all knew the cap was going to skyrocket.

$17 million for a backup center. No thanks.

A backup that closes games and plays more minutes than the starter.

[imithanos]

how is the winter in MIL this year? Do you think it can scare Hawes?