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[-Jragon-]

Wood would've been a great backup 4/5 here. If this system turned Lopez into a good defender then wood could've been at least not a negative.

Oh really? Do it with DJW then ... he has more natural skills than Wood

More natural skill? At what level? Wood is clearly the more gifted athlete and scorer. His problem has always been mental but he's shined everywhere that has given him opportunity. Wilson hasn't shown anything when given the opportunity outside of a handful of games his sophomore year.

Could have something to do with coach Bud looking like he wants to rip his own head off instead of watching Wood, Thon, DJW, etc... run around looking clueless on defense concepts and playing without physicality ... he needs heady, reliable, and physically tough players in the front court.

Offensively DJW is fine. He can do just about everything. He can shoot, dribble, pass... he's also long and can jump well --- his problems are playing the defensive system presented to him and not playing physical enough.

[DingleJerry]

I don't know why it's so hard for some to just admit Wood is a good player. It's not like your were the GM who made the decision.

Because it was super obvious he was talented they are upset their personal evaluation was so wrong so they have doubled down on it. It happens a lot on this board. Most people just hush and pretend they weren't wrong, which is the better option. For Wood it went from "So what if he's destroying DJW in practice, it's practice" to "So what he's destroying the G-League, it's the G-League" to "So what he's destroying at the end of the season, it's the end of the season" to "So what he's destroying for these 3 teams, they all didn't keep him" to "So what he killing it for Houston, he's not a good player" to "So what his stats say he's a good player, the stats are wrong".

He's fine.. helps you on one side of the ball hurts you on the other. Like Tobias or Charlie V

And someone goes right on to prove the point, too perfect.

[-Jragon-]

Because it was super obvious he was talented they are upset their personal evaluation was so wrong so they have doubled down on it. It happens a lot on this board. Most people just hush and pretend they weren't wrong, which is the better option. For Wood it went from "So what if he's destroying DJW in practice, it's practice" to "So what he's destroying the G-League, it's the G-League" to "So what he's destroying at the end of the season, it's the end of the season" to "So what he's destroying for these 3 teams, they all didn't keep him" to "So what he killing it for Houston, he's not a good player" to "So what his stats say he's a good player, the stats are wrong".

He's fine.. helps you on one side of the ball hurts you on the other. Like Tobias or Charlie V

And someone goes right on to prove the point, too perfect.

Last I checked Tobias has Ben Simmons and Embiid (and had Butler)... probably should have a Chip by now if he's who you think he is but he's not and the Rockets will have a losing record for the next few years.

Here's my hot take: Wood gets traded 2 times before his contract ends. Mark that down somewhere I'll own it.

[FlagsFlyForever]

This seems like something Middleton should not have said publicly.

“That’s nothing to play around with. And once [Jrue] tested positive you immediately think about his health, his safety and then his family back home. He has little kids too that he has to worry about. So, I think, that was a huge part of what was going through my mind before the game, is just thinking about him and his family back home.”

The Bucks would only say Holiday is in the health and safety protocol.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2021/02/09/bucks-deal-jrue-holiday-sitting-out-due-covid-protocols/4433393001

Probably worth a title update. What's the min amount of time he is out? A week?

The soonest he can return is February 19th.

[DingleJerry]

He's fine.. helps you on one side of the ball hurts you on the other. Like Tobias or Charlie V

And someone goes right on to prove the point, too perfect.

Last I checked Tobias has Ben Simmons and Embiid (and had Butler)... probably should have a Chip by now if he's who you think he is but he's not and the Rockets will have a losing record for the next few years.

Here's my hot take: Wood gets traded 2 times before his contract ends. Mark that down somewhere I'll own it.

What does Tobias have anything to do with Christian Wood and how do you have any idea my thoughts on him. This is good stuff.

Just keep doubling down on Wood not being good all you want in spite of all evidence to the contrary. While somehow arguing DJW is good. Also, no one is saying he's ALL NBA or anything. I also wouldn't really care if he got traded on this contract either. People's and team's contract situations are totally separate from if someone is a good player. Again, I have no idea why it's so hard to admit the guy is a good player. No one should be that emotionally invested in Christian Wood to be that stubborn/prideful on it (like say on politics etc)

[WRau1]

I know I would feel alot better about this Bucks team if we had Wood on the bench instead of Wilson, DJA and the 2RPs.

[-Jragon-]

And someone goes right on to prove the point, too perfect.

Last I checked Tobias has Ben Simmons and Embiid (and had Butler)... probably should have a Chip by now if he's who you think he is but he's not and the Rockets will have a losing record for the next few years.

Here's my hot take: Wood gets traded 2 times before his contract ends. Mark that down somewhere I'll own it.

What does Tobias have anything to do with Christian Wood and how do you have any idea my thoughts on him. This is good stuff.

Just keep doubling down on Wood not being good all you want in spite of all evidence to the contrary. While somehow arguing DJW is good. Also, no one is saying he's ALL NBA or anything. I also wouldn't really care if he got traded on this contract either. People's and team's contract situations are totally separate from if someone is a good player.

I think they are all good - on offense.

[-Jragon-]

I know I would feel alot better about this Bucks team if we had Wood on the bench instead of Wilson, DJA and the 2RPs.

4 more years of Wood is like breaking a mirror. They will have to add a pick when they decide to get out of that deal.

[DingleJerry]

Spoiler:

Last I checked Tobias has Ben Simmons and Embiid (and had Butler)... probably should have a Chip by now if he's who you think he is but he's not and the Rockets will have a losing record for the next few years.

Here's my hot take: Wood gets traded 2 times before his contract ends. Mark that down somewhere I'll own it.

What does Tobias have anything to do with Christian Wood and how do you have any idea my thoughts on him. This is good stuff.

Just keep doubling down on Wood not being good all you want in spite of all evidence to the contrary. While somehow arguing DJW is good. Also, no one is saying he's ALL NBA or anything. I also wouldn't really care if he got traded on this contract either. People's and team's contract situations are totally separate from if someone is a good player.

I think they are all good - on offense.

Again, just so you're aware, this knock on D is supported by no evidence. But keep going, you're literally proving my point.

And even if it was, all players have strengths and weaknesses. Ope, I don't want JJ Redick cuz he's slow on D. I don't want James HArden because he's weak on D. I don't want Giannis because he can't shoot. I don't want Rudy Gobert because he's so limited on O. I bet lots of Bucks fans last playoffs vs Mia were going, yea so what Herro, Duncan, Dragic, you're not good at D. We love Bledsoe.

[WRau1]

I know I would feel alot better about this Bucks team if we had Wood on the bench instead of Wilson, DJA and the 2RPs.

4 more years of Wood is like breaking a mirror. They will have to add a pick when they decide to get out of that deal.

He'll be 27yrs old at the end of his current deal. I think there's a better chance he'll sign a bigger deal after that than there is of HOU having to attach value to dump him. And that's assuming his numbers will drop from where they are now, no chance in hell of him not exceeding his current deal on his current efficiencies.

[-Jragon-]

Spoiler:

What does Tobias have anything to do with Christian Wood and how do you have any idea my thoughts on him. This is good stuff.

Just keep doubling down on Wood not being good all you want in spite of all evidence to the contrary. While somehow arguing DJW is good. Also, no one is saying he's ALL NBA or anything. I also wouldn't really care if he got traded on this contract either. People's and team's contract situations are totally separate from if someone is a good player.

I think they are all good - on offense.

Again, just so you're aware, this knock on D is supported by no evidence. But keep going, you're literally proving my point.

And even if it was, all players have strengths and weaknesses. Ope, I don't want JJ Redick cuz he's slow on D. I don't want James HArden because he's weak on D. I don't want Giannis because he can't shoot. I don't want Rudy Gobert because he's so limited on O. I bet lots of Bucks fans last playoffs vs Mia were going, yea so what Herro, Duncan, Dragic, you're not good at D. We love Bledsoe.

True but it's easier to hide guards... Duncan and Harden have an elite skill so that's irrelevant

[tedbrogen]

This seems like something Middleton should not have said publicly.



https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2021/02/09/bucks-deal-jrue-holiday-sitting-out-due-covid-protocols/4433393001

Probably worth a title update. What's the min amount of time he is out? A week?

The soonest he can return is February 19th.

And that’s with no symptoms at that point and a couple negative tests, correct?

Guess we’re about to find out what they have in DJA, Forbes, and Craig since I would assume they keep soaking up Jrue’s minutes over the next at least five games.

[EugeneBucksFan]

Can we just forget Wood already? Letting him go was maybe a bad decision but that's how it goes with Basketball! You can't be right about every choice... Can u blame him for wanting to leave? No... Can u blame the board and Bud for letting him go? No... so why bother talk about him still? At the end of the day I feel happy for him because Bud isn't the kind of coach who gives opportunities to younger players, so he went somewhere where he could show his talent. Moral of the story: what happened in the past belongs in the past. The thing is how we can now upgrade the team? IMO jrue's absence due to the virus can be an big opportunity for DJA to prove his value and give us reasons to believe that he can be decent. He has to step up. Either way though I would be happy to see a trade for some better wing players but let's keep the starters out of the trade conversation. Major changes should only happen during the off season.

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[Chad34]

Probably worth a title update. What's the min amount of time he is out? A week?

The soonest he can return is February 19th.

And that’s with no symptoms at that point and a couple negative tests, correct?

Guess we’re about to find out what they have in DJA, Forbes, and Craig since I would assume they keep soaking up Jrue’s minutes over the next at least five games.

not trying to be argumentative, but has anyone confirmed for sure that it wasn't a false positive test?

[yannisk]

Offensively DJW is fine. He can do just about everything.

DJW can do everything? why doesn't he do it then. He does not have any post moves, very weak around the basket. He is such a good shooter that he has a career 56% Ft percentage a 32.5% 3p percentage. In the last two years he has 0.48 TS

as for his passing per 36 he has 2 assists nothing to be excited about.

[ReasonablySober]

Can we just forget Wood already? Letting him go was maybe a bad decision but that's how it goes with Basketball! You can't be right about every choice... Can u blame him for wanting to leave? No... Can u blame the board and Bud for letting him go? No... so why bother talk about him still? At the end of the day I feel happy for him because Bud isn't the kind of coach who gives opportunities to younger players, so he went somewhere where he could show his talent. Moral of the story: what happened in the past belongs in the past. The thing is how we can now upgrade the team? IMO jrue's absence due to the virus can be an big opportunity for DJA to prove his value and give us reasons to believe that he can be decent. He has to step up. Either way though I would be happy to see a trade for some better wing players but let's keep the starters out of the trade conversation. Major changes should only happen during the off season.

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something, something, the Tobias Harris thread.

[midranger]

Can we just forget Wood already?

Sir, this is not how it works here.

[DrWood]

Here's my hot take: Wood gets traded 2 times before his contract ends. Mark that down somewhere I'll own it.

twice in 2+ seasons? Possible.

[ReasonablySober]

Here's my hot take: Wood gets traded 2 times before his contract ends. Mark that down somewhere I'll own it.

twice in 2+ seasons? Possible.

If he does it's going to be for positive value, so I'm not sure taking a victory lap is going to be possible here.

[-Jragon-]

Offensively DJW is fine. He can do just about everything.

DJW can do everything? why doesn't he do it then. He does not have any post moves, very weak around the basket. He is such a good shooter that he has a career 56% Ft percentage a 32.5% 3p percentage. In the last two years he has 0.48 TS

as for his passing per 36 he has 2 assists nothing to be excited about.

Kinda tough getting in a rhythm when you get 15 - 20 minutes 1 game and zero the next 5.