Giannis Thread - "The Finals are different, I hope to be back soon with the Bucks"

[ReasonablySober]

I still instinctively go to ESPN.com every day, 90% of the time to check on game times and TV stations. But the little "My News" section always gets me.

[Profound23]

This is exactly what SAS and ESPN want, you guys.

Yeah I know, I don't usually fall for their WWE style of media. But this one sucked me in. Calling GIANNIS of all people an underachiever is crazy to me.

Okay I ripped them in the OT thread but J-Will of all people actually had a very good take.

Giannis is one the great examples of overachievement in history. Not just talking basketball. Man was selling watches on the streets of Athens and came to the NBA from the Greek 2nd division. Under 7ppg as a rookie -- 1 3rd place vote for ROY.

Exactly!

[emunney]

SAS: If Alexander the Great turns back at the Indus, is he a failure?

[humanrefutation]

ESPN has many reputable journalists working for them. They also have many guys who are quite good at giving takes, even if those takes are given just to stimulate discussion and "debate." I see a place for both. I still think ESPN has a good news division, and their takemakers are hit and miss (mostly miss, IMO).

Their problem is that the line between opinion and news has eroded over the last 15-20 years, driven too much by a desire for enough content to fill the day. The most hilarious tendency is when ESPN basically generates its own news cycle - an SAS will say something that gets a lot of heat, and then the whole day will be spent debating that heat, and reporters will file stories about folks responding to that heat. He's become so good at that skill that is almost indispensable to ESPN right now. He can single-handedly drive a day of content on his own.

Windhorst does that, too, with a veneer of "sourcing." Shams is trying to do the same thing with that veneer of "sourcing," but he just isn't as good at it because he's not good at TV and his social media posts are filled with mumbled garbage.

But ESPN does have good reporting and analysts. Passan, DVN, TJ Quinn, Mina, etc. But these folks follow stories, they don't create them out of whole cloth.

[soxperry]

I still instinctively go to ESPN.com every day, 90% of the time to check on game times and TV stations. But the little "My News" section always gets me.

Its the first thing my fingers do when i open up google chrome and its automatic at this point

[JayMKE]

I use to enjoy ESPN back in the day and would watch highlights constantly but now with the internet and smartphones all they have is hot takes and clickbait, a lot of its utility is gone so they have to drive controversy.

[raferfenix]

Bobby Portis: And um, I just think that, you know, ultimately, when you’ve been on a team for a decade-plus, and when you’ve done so much for a city—low-key, like, basketball in Milwaukee wasn’t really a thing until Giannis became who he is. So when you put that much effort into a franchise, that much trust and belief, and you’ve been loyal for so long… Like I said—my whole point—I just feel like he bleeds green, man. No matter what’s reported, no matter what might come to the threshold… Like, would you really want to see Giannis in Toronto as a basketball fan? You know what I’m saying? I saw those jersey swaps this week on Bleacher Report and all that, but come on. Would you really want to see him on a different team? Sure, if I’m playing 2K, that’s one thing. Move him around, put him on different teams, cool. But in real life? A No. 34 Giannis jersey in Toronto? That would just look weird. So me personally? Nah, man. I don’t really see any movement happening. I think he’s staying put with the Bucks.

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[HKPackFan]

Our greek God is back in the lab.

[Matches Malone]

ESPN won't stop with their agenda pushing, but I had to post this for the Pistons offer. My god that writer has to be smoking straight crack. Zero good players back and 3 picks that are essentially worthless with Giannis there. It's actually impressive how hard ESPN has been going at this Giannis schtick this summer. Whoever runs ESPN behind the scenes must really hate Milwaukee.

Pistons Receive: Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks Receive: Tobias Harris, Jaden Ivey, Isaiah Stewart and 3 1st round picks.

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[ReasonablySober]

None of those work for me.

[Ron Swanson]

Interesting that they have us getting a 1st round pick back in that proposed Dame for Beal swap. Every one of those Giannis trades is laughably bad, of course.

[Licensed to Il]

Each of the Giannis trade proposals made me squint, read through a second time because it seemed like I missed something, and then groan.

A guy I know who runs a website told me he hates posting mock drafts, but they generate double or triple the clicks of a regular article. There is something about NFL fans that aspire for their team to get better, that drives clicks and engagement. I imagine something similar is going on here at ESPN, where they get huge clicks from fans that naively think they can get Giannis for 2-3 rotation guys and 2-3 mid first round picks. I think these articles bring in readership. Because they are not realistic or credible or sensible. Giannis is a top 12 all time player about to turn in 3-4 more dominant seasons. That's worth more than a few mid tier rotation guys and first round picks in the twenties.

[fan230]

ESPN won't stop with their agenda pushing, but I had to post this for the Pistons offer. My god that writer has to be smoking straight crack. Zero good players back and 3 picks that are essentially worthless with Giannis there. It's actually impressive how hard ESPN has been going at this Giannis schtick this summer. Whoever runs ESPN behind the scenes must really hate Milwaukee.

Pistons Receive: Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks Receive: Tobias Harris, Jaden Ivey, Isaiah Stewart and 3 1st round picks.

Read on Twitter

I also used to read espn regularly. Now i see their headlines. Anything that seems like clickbait, I avoid. I especially avoid anything on Giannis trade news. I didn’t read the article on 8 deals for example.

The less the number of clicks on those types of articles, the less will be the number of such articles in the future.

[Matches Malone]

ESPN won't stop with their agenda pushing, but I had to post this for the Pistons offer. My god that writer has to be smoking straight crack. Zero good players back and 3 picks that are essentially worthless with Giannis there. It's actually impressive how hard ESPN has been going at this Giannis schtick this summer. Whoever runs ESPN behind the scenes must really hate Milwaukee.

Pistons Receive: Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks Receive: Tobias Harris, Jaden Ivey, Isaiah Stewart and 3 1st round picks.

Read on Twitter

I also used to read espn regularly. Now i see their headlines. Anything that seems like clickbait, I avoid. I especially avoid anything on Giannis trade news. I didn’t read the article on 8 deals for example.

The less the number of clicks on those types of articles, the less will be the number of such articles in the future.

I don't read it regularly. I avoid it at all costs aside from watching games there. But some things just need to be made fun of. They've become a weird desperate TMZ as a company. They should go back to running highlights 24/7.

[HKPackFan]

Each of the Giannis trade proposals made me squint, read through a second time because it seemed like I missed something, and then groan.

A guy I know who runs a website told me he hates posting mock drafts, but they generate double or triple the clicks of a regular article. There is something about NFL fans that aspire for their team to get better, that drives clicks and engagement. I imagine something similar is going on here at ESPN, where they get huge clicks from fans that naively think they can get Giannis for 2-3 rotation guys and 2-3 mid first round picks. I think these articles bring in readership. Because they are not realistic or credible or sensible. Giannis is a top 12 all time player about to turn in 3-4 more dominant seasons. That's worth more than a few mid tier rotation guys and first round picks in the twenties.

Ya, it's all algorithm news.... These articles are catching eyeballs and clicks, so push out more of the same. It doesn't have to be real or news, just clicks matter.

[ReasonablySober]

The Pistons one really is especially baffling.

[emunney]

ESPN won't stop with their agenda pushing, but I had to post this for the Pistons offer. My god that writer has to be smoking straight crack. Zero good players back and 3 picks that are essentially worthless with Giannis there. It's actually impressive how hard ESPN has been going at this Giannis schtick this summer. Whoever runs ESPN behind the scenes must really hate Milwaukee.

Pistons Receive: Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks Receive: Tobias Harris, Jaden Ivey, Isaiah Stewart and 3 1st round picks.

Read on Twitter

Jesus Christ, that is an all-time low. It's like they went out of their way to figure out the worst possible offer Detroit could make.

[emunney]

The Raptors trade is a lot better than Pincus' Raptors trade. The GSW-Mavs trade is also absurdly bad and somehow has the Mavs stealing our equity.

[BuckFan25226]

ESPN won't stop with their agenda pushing, but I had to post this for the Pistons offer. My god that writer has to be smoking straight crack. Zero good players back and 3 picks that are essentially worthless with Giannis there. It's actually impressive how hard ESPN has been going at this Giannis schtick this summer. Whoever runs ESPN behind the scenes must really hate Milwaukee.

Pistons Receive: Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks Receive: Tobias Harris, Jaden Ivey, Isaiah Stewart and 3 1st round picks.

Read on Twitter

Jesus Christ, that is an all-time low. It's like they went out of their way to figure out the worst possible offer Detroit could make.

It's really embarrassing. But we need to remember there are millions of casual readers who eat that stuff up. I still, almost daily have to tell people Giannis isn't going anywhere. "Yeah but I keep reading about these trade packages and stuff online"

[M-C-G]

Beal plus a first and some seconds for Dame is at least interesting to consider. Would need other things like Dunn and matching salary, but I’m not totally out on Beal turning it around here in MKE playing next to Giannis. As long as we are compensated fairly.