Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[Prokorov]

I wouldnt equate the nets 2014 record with Kidd, he more was fortunate with Lopez going down. once that happend the nets could finally play a winning brand of ball. Lopez killed any chance of pierce/jj being effective on offense because he demanded touches and was a huge ball stopper. and the bigger problem was defensively, as it compounded the defensive issues pierce had by having such a poor defender in lopez who breaks you down with his inability to gaurd the pick and roll and inability to stop wings from getting to the rim as a help man.

once lopez was gone, we had a much better chance to win. now, pierce and JJ get mroe volume, they are better passers, the ball moves. you move KG to center and get another ball handler/passer/role guy in livingston on the floor. you get more defenders on the floor. it was an enormous burden lifted off the team.

thats the biggest downside to us losing kidd. he knew brook was not a player you win with and wanted him gone, which reportedly is the biggest reason for this whole riff.

Thanks for the info. Do you know if there were any other moves he lobbied for?

He was a big part of bringing in Livingston and was high on teague. other then that not much

[Wooderson]

He was a big part of bringing in Livingston and was high on teague. other then that not much

What are your thoughts on Alan Anderson and why did it take Kidd so long to remove him the starting lneup? I know you guys were weak at guard, but man is that guy awful.

[nagawicka]

the worst-case scenario is that kidd damages the bucks' brand even more, making milwaukee a target for agents and other teams looking to exploit a franchise that makes terrible, irrational decisions.

the on and off-court failures, and jabari parker proving to not be an all-star caliber player but jsut a solid pro, would then precede a move to seattle where they can reset all over again.

that's the worst-case scenario.

Or New Jersey.

The Rock is 22 minutes by PATH train to WTC & Wall Street.

The Rock hosted the Nets while arena in Brooklyn was built.

[JEIS]

Well Jabari did an amazing job talking about our lake.... maybe Lebron had to come and see it.

[JayMKE]

:reporter: fwiw there was this girl i knew in Milwaukee that claimed to be Lebron's cousin way back, said she had been to his house in Cleveland and such. He could have family here. Heard it here first!

The plot thickens

[paulpressey25]

All indications point to this being the case so far, without the sarcasm.

Paul Henning is entitled to his own opinions on this item. He brought up some valid points last night about this hire putting Milwaukee on the NBA map. As for some SOB commentary, you are seeing some of it via the SOB twitter feed.

Also would not read lack of an SOB commentary for the moment as being in tacit agreement with a Kidd hire. More a function of the fact the editor/creator of SOB is trying to do stuff with his kids on nicest weather day so far this summer.

[VooDoo7]

I find it hilarious that the guy who claimed to want nothing to do with Exum because of his unknown qualities wants to give total control of the organization to somebody with zero front office experience.

Will keep bumping this til JayMKE responds.

[Wooderson]

Lawl at expecting Naters to change his number.

[JayMKE]

I find it hilarious that the guy who claimed to want nothing to do with Exum because of his unknown qualities wants to give total control of the organization to somebody with zero front office experience.

Will keep bumping this til JayMKE responds.

respond to what?

parker > exum

get over it

[VooDoo7]

Kidd's first order of business as Milwaukee Bucks POBO....nail Mallory Lasry.

SMH at this entire post. From the post itself, to calling Mallory Edens Mallory Lasry.

[Prokorov]

When Kidd was in NY he was respected by the players, coaches, everyone, and that's largely been the story of his career. Even last year the players eventually bought in. So I'm not sure about this sudden media blitz attack on him. Seems like the responsible thing to do is wait to hear Kidd's side of it, it's just a lot of speculation at this point. But, yeah, you don't just hand him the keys to your franchise at this point in his career. Then again, there are so many mediocre team execs in the NBA, you have to wonder if he couldn't do a better job. Anyway, it's nice to have some NBA buzz back in Milwaukee.

this really shows a pretty weak understanding of kidds tenure in NJ, NY, and as coach in brooklyn.

Kidd was loved the first few years when he turned the team around and we went to the finals. He was pretty much unanimously hated by most fans at somepoint between getting Scott fired, and then sitting out games with a fake "migrane" issue and dogging it forcing his way out of town. This cause some pretty big issues between him and his teammates... specifically magliore who kidd had helped recruit. He clashed with owners, gms, coaches, and teammates during his tenure as a player with the nets.

As coach, the move to bring him in was heavily criticized, looked at as a headline grab, and he was recieved pretty luke warm getting bashed by more then one media outlet for the team brining in a coach with no experience who just had a car wreck/DUI being chose to hold guys accountable.

in just a few months, he got into it with lawrence frank, and had him demoted just months after begging the nets to throw insane money at frank to be an assitant(highest paid assistant in league history). He then had some issue with garnett over playing time, before trying to pull this power move to become POBO after just finishing his first year as a rookie coach.

to say kidd is loved, respected, and revered by nets fans, media, coaches and former coaches and players is extrmely inaccurate

[VooDoo7]

I find it hilarious that the guy who claimed to want nothing to do with Exum because of his unknown qualities wants to give total control of the organization to somebody with zero front office experience.

Will keep bumping this til JayMKE responds.

respond to what?

parker > exum

get over it

Ok.

Anybody > Kidd

How that?

[SeaLORD_0318]

I find it hilarious that the guy who claimed to want nothing to do with Exum because of his unknown qualities wants to give total control of the organization to somebody with zero front office experience.

Will keep bumping this til JayMKE responds.

There was clearly a better option at our disposal....

[JayMKE]

Will keep bumping this til JayMKE responds.

respond to what?

parker > exum

get over it

Ok.

Anybody > Kidd

How that?

well you're wrong

the two guys we've had running the show the last few years are John Hammond and Herb Kohl

[VooDoo7]

I find it hilarious that the guy who claimed to want nothing to do with Exum because of his unknown qualities wants to give total control of the organization to somebody with zero front office experience.

Will keep bumping this til JayMKE responds.

There was clearly a better option at our disposal....

That's not the point, at all. If you followed along in the draft threads, you'd know this.

[clutchiness]

i was just starting to "deal with" the owners going full fanboy for Parker, when the very same decision-makers started trying to put a coach that no one wants (but who one of them is friends with!) in charge of the entire organization.

[Prokorov]

1. I like Jason Kidd as a coach. He did a great job last year taking a very poorly constructed team and turning it into a threat in the playoffs. What he got out of Livingston was nothing short of amazing and I think he has a nice motion offense that would give the team an actual direction. He preaches unselfish basketball and definitely aligns with our "development". I may be in the minority, but, I think he'd be a good coach aligning from the vision that Lasry and Edens are preaching.

In a weak east, he took over a 49 win team that had just swapped out gerald wallace and reggie evans as starters with paul pierce and kevin garnett. he had a deent rookie and andrei kirilenko also added to the roster as well. he proceeded to lose 5 more games then that team. id hardly call that some kind of grand accomplishment.

as far as what he did with livingston, i dont see it. Livingston had the same exact numbers last year in cleveland. like legit nearly identical in pts, rebs, asssts, steals, mins, and fg%. Its not like livingston turned his career around this year, that happend last year in cleveland. he just got more exposure to the masses in brooklyn.

[SeaLORD_0318]

Will keep bumping this til JayMKE responds.

There was clearly a better option at our disposal....

That's not the point, at all. If you followed along in the draft threads, you'd know this.

I have and I think you're fishing...quit trying to build your strawman.

[Red Vines]

When Kidd was in NY he was respected by the players, coaches, everyone, and that's largely been the story of his career. Even last year the players eventually bought in. So I'm not sure about this sudden media blitz attack on him. Seems like the responsible thing to do is wait to hear Kidd's side of it, it's just a lot of speculation at this point. But, yeah, you don't just hand him the keys to your franchise at this point in his career. Then again, there are so many mediocre team execs in the NBA, you have to wonder if he couldn't do a better job. Anyway, it's nice to have some NBA buzz back in Milwaukee.

this really shows a pretty weak understanding of kidds tenure in NJ, NY, and as coach in brooklyn.

Kidd was loved the first few years when he turned the team around and we went to the finals. He was pretty much unanimously hated by most fans at somepoint between getting Scott fired, and then sitting out games with a fake "migrane" issue and dogging it forcing his way out of town. This cause some pretty big issues between him and his teammates... specifically magliore who kidd had helped recruit. He clashed with owners, gms, coaches, and teammates during his tenure as a player with the nets.

As coach, the move to bring him in was heavily criticized, looked at as a headline grab, and he was recieved pretty luke warm getting bashed by more then one media outlet for the team brining in a coach with no experience who just had a car wreck/DUI being chose to hold guys accountable.

in just a few months, he got into it with lawrence frank, and had him demoted just months after begging the nets to throw insane money at frank to be an assitant(highest paid assistant in league history). He then had some issue with garnett over playing time, before trying to pull this power move to become POBO after just finishing his first year as a rookie coach.

to say kidd is loved, respected, and revered by nets fans, media, coaches and former coaches and players is extrmely inaccurate

Pissing people off (Magloire? Really? Who cares?) is one thing, not being respected as person or player is another. How many players/coaches/fans has Kobe aggravated? I'm not saying he's an angel, but clearly Kidd had a ton of respect in the league. Doesn't mean he was loved I suppose, but definitely teammates listened to him.

[Prokorov]

He was a big part of bringing in Livingston and was high on teague. other then that not much

What are your thoughts on Alan Anderson and why did it take Kidd so long to remove him the starting lneup? I know you guys were weak at guard, but man is that guy awful.

Anderson actually played really well for us at times. and its hard to really get a solid rotation with the injuries/minutes restrictions we had.

Pierce was limited minutes wise and battled an injury in december and was then moved to PF. kirilenko missed half of the season. Terry was useless prior to moving him for thornton. we really didnt have many options at SF.

Anderson was excellent during our 10-1 streak in january when dwill went down. he played really well at times. he is 8th-9th man though, you cant expect consistency out of him. i LOVED what anderson gave us. i'm sad he may not be back.

It isnt easy to find a vet min player who can be moved between DNPs, minor minutes, big minutes, and starter -- not make a peep, play hard, and give you some quality games.